Turn on the patch server already

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Originally Posted by SonKevin

We're going to be have maintenance every 3 days for the next 2-3 weeks. ENJOY!

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There wasn't even that much maintenance when Heavensward launched... why in the world would you think a mere patch (even a sizable one) would cause more issues than an entire expansion would?

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Originally Posted by Moonleg

While that is true, LionFranco, I am just a little concerned that they take the game servers down BEFORE they are apparently 100% confident that the patch works and is ready to deploy.

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They about as confident and certain it'll work as they can be.

They still need to test it any way, in case they were wrong.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Why the rush with the patch, servers are not even going to up for another 12 hours.

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I can download at a max of 40 KB/s. Judging from previous main content patches, I'm expecting this patch to be between 1 GB and 1.5 GB.

That means a download time of 8-12 hours for me. THAT is the 'rush'.

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Originally Posted by Moonleg

It's not rocket science, no. But it IS computer science - all the data relating to the new dungeons, the textures, the new armors, all that? That is NOT going to change just because a small bug is found in how /grouppose works. ALL THAT DATA should be available for download right now.

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You're probably right, but based on your liberal use of the caps lock I think you're way too upset about this. Maybe SE isn't doing things as efficient as they could, but the game is still getting made, the world is still turning, and everyone will still be ok if we get the patch a little later. Its like when you go to a sandwich shop, order, and they say "Sorry, we're all out of honey ham." Could they have done something to ensure they had enough honey ham that day? Probably, but you don't tell them that. You just say "Dang, ok. I'll take a turkey sandwich" and the world goes on.

Actually I just hold in Shift for that. I grew up with chat rooms that did not support italics, bold or underscores, so it kinda became a habit to use all caps for emphasis rather than to shout. My apologies.

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Originally Posted by LionFranco

The patch has to be applied to the live servers before we can download it, and that won't be until the maint is done...it isn't rocket science.

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What nonsense is this? This is not how download servers alongside game servers work. You're right, it's not rocket science and yet people believe (like you) somehow the game servers are tied to patches - you're wrong - simple as.

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Originally Posted by Moonleg

I can download at a max of 40 KB/s. Judging from previous main content patches, I'm expecting this patch to be between 1 GB and 1.5 GB.

That means a download time of 8-12 hours for me. THAT is the 'rush'.

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Are you on dial-up? o.o

I didn't think you could even play this game on a connection that slow.

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Originally Posted by Moonleg

I can download at a max of 40 KB/s.

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And who's fault is that? It's not Square Enix's fault you chose a crappy internet provider. And don't tell me that was your only choice you don't have to live in the middle of no where.

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Originally Posted by Xanikk999

And who's fault is that? It's not Square Enix's fault you chose a crappy internet provider. And don't tell me that was your only choice you don't have to live in the middle of no where.

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I actually have this problem and the ISP I have is literally the only choice as all the others are somehow slower. :V

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Originally Posted by Moonleg

I can download at a max of 40 KB/s. Judging from previous main content patches, I'm expecting this patch to be between 1 GB and 1.5 GB.

That means a download time of 8-12 hours for me. THAT is the 'rush'.

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Sorry you have crappy internet and it personally inconveniences you but I doubt many will be inconvenienced that the patch wasn't out 12 hours before the servers came back up.

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Originally Posted by Xanikk999

And don't tell me that was your only choice you don't have to live in the middle of no where.

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Not everyone can live in the big cities, in the well developed countries (or at least, the richest ones). Just saying.

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

Not everyone can live in the big cities, in the well developed countries (or at least, the richest ones). Just saying.

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You're honestly doing yourselves a big favor by not living in big cities.

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Originally Posted by Malicewolf

What is this outside you speak of? I think I'm allergic to it.

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True fact: sunlight causes cancer. Avoid it if you can, just get your vitamin D through your food.

While i would love to get it all downloaded and out of the way, they're probably not ready to do that yet.

It's not as simple as flipping a switch.

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Originally Posted by Xanikk999

And don't tell me that was your only choice you don't have to live in the middle of no where.

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Moving is easier said than done, especially when moving from a typically poorer rural area to a more expensive to live in urban/suburban area. Trust me. I'd gladly have moved from where I live long ago if it was that simple.

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Originally Posted by Moonleg

I can download at a max of 40 KB/s. Judging from previous main content patches, I'm expecting this patch to be between 1 GB and 1.5 GB. That means a download time of 8-12 hours for me. THAT is the 'rush'.

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Got a friend with a 4G cellphone, and do live in an area with 4G coverage? Then ask your friend to setup a hotspot or tether to your system to let you download the game, it will probably be faster. Even the slowest 4G network can download 1.4GB in about an hour, others do it in 5-10 minutes, according to this report

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Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990

You're honestly doing yourselves a big favor by not living in big cities.

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sadly I am T_T Well, I have shitty DL speed because the ISP of my parents is screwing around with its customers, but I'm not a country guy. I have decent connection whenever I don't DL stuff

If I understand correctly, data like that found in Garland Tools (which I love) is obtained by data-mining the client. It is reasonable to believe that shortly after SE releases the new client for download, data-mining will begin.

Now, it seems SE has a policy of keeping some patch information back to prevent first-movers getting too much of an advantage; delaying the release of the new client until shortly before the servers go back live may be a component of that policy. In determining when to release the client, SE may be trying to balance typical download times against how quickly data-miners have been able to mine the client in the past, so that the data-miners are starting to get and present info about the same time that the servers go live.

Or maybe not. It's just an hypothesis.

lol. im excited for the new patch too and i agree as i "used" to have a very slow internet connection and downloading just FFXIV during ARR days took 29 hours to com plete so i can understand people with slow internet wanting it early so by time it is done downloading they can jump right in

Using 3gb of data on a cellphone would be pretty costly <.<

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

sadly I am T_T Well, I have shitty DL speed because the ISP of my parents is screwing around with its customers, but I'm not a country guy. I have decent connection whenever I don't DL stuff

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I can't complain about mines. 60Mbps D/L and 30Mbps U/L with a ping of 9ms.

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Originally Posted by Xanikk999

And who's fault is that? It's not Square Enix's fault you chose a crappy internet provider. And don't tell me that was your only choice you don't have to live in the middle of no where.

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I'll tell you what. Find me a nice house or apartment somewhere in a city, that doesn't have annoying neighbors or traffic constantly bothering me, and costs about what I'm paying for where I live now, then we'll talk.....

Where I live, my only option for internet is either ones as slow as what the OP has, or satellite internet, (or both if I went with Hughesnet). I chose satellite internet though the best provider I could find, and am still paying $60 a month with a 10gb data cap. Oh, and I have a permanent 700ms latency when playing games that comes standard due to the way satellite internet works. This means I have nearly a full second less time to dodge than other players, and can't even play most games because it won't connect to servers or there are constant glitches caused by it. Frankly, this is the absolute best internet I can get where I live, (no real cell signal to speak of, so that's not an option either), and with 15mbs up and 3bms down, this is the kind of internet that most people would refuse to even attempt to play games on, much less pay for. I get particularly annoyed when people who have lived in urban areas their entire life think that everyone everywhere can have high quality internet, or think that living in a city is an option for everyone......

What IS that bright yellow light?!

Oh that's the sun .... 0_o

125mbs D/L 12mb U/L 10ms ping here lol

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Originally Posted by Xanikk999

And who's fault is that? It's not Square Enix's fault you chose a crappy internet provider. And don't tell me that was your only choice you don't have to live in the middle of no where.

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..Just saying some places, even rural cities have only 1 internet provider(and that's likely to be comcast, if in the states..)

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Originally Posted by Twilite

..Just saying some places, even rural cities have only 1 internet provider(and that's likely to be comcast, if in the states..)

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Comcast is the only cable internet provider, doubt they the 100% only of any kind of internet that available.

/em patiently waits on Google Fiber to finish construction in Raleigh, NC

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Originally Posted by Xanikk999

And who's fault is that? It's not Square Enix's fault you chose a crappy internet provider. And don't tell me that was your only choice you don't have to live in the middle of no where.

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It might not be their fault but it is square enix's concern because he is a customer. They care just as much about him as they care about you.

Also, if they are doing infrastructure maintenance, it might not be possible to turn the patch on if the patch servers are locked behind the infrastructure that is currently being worked on lol.

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Originally Posted by Wade

What nonsense is this? This is not how download servers alongside game servers work. You're right, it's not rocket science and yet people believe (like you) somehow the game servers are tied to patches - you're wrong - simple as.

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You apparently dont know what you are talking about either. Again, it isnt as simple as flipping a switch, they WONT apply the patch until the maintenance is done, its always been like that, if you cant understand that, well then thats on you. And once they apply the patch and make sure everything is running properly, THEN they will allow the update to be downloaded. You clearly dont know how the process works if you think the downloading of the patch can be done before everything else is ready too.

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Originally Posted by Xanikk999

And who's fault is that? It's not Square Enix's fault you chose a crappy internet provider. And don't tell me that was your only choice you don't have to live in the middle of no where.

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Real life is not that simple.... Dang

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Originally Posted by LionFranco

You apparently dont know what you are talking about either. Again, it isnt as simple as flipping a switch, they WONT apply the patch until the maintenance is done, its always been like that, if you cant understand that, well then thats on you. And once they apply the patch and make sure everything is running properly, THEN they will allow the update to be downloaded. You clearly dont know how the process works if you think the downloading of the patch can be done before everything else is ready too.

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I have downloaded the patch prior to maintenance being completed.

At least I'm halfway downloading fallout 4 now.

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Originally Posted by Asmodai

I have downloaded the patch prior to maintenance being completed.

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Which means they were done, but werent going to allow access to the game before a set time. Its really very simple, its ready when its ready, not before.

Launcher just started to update for me.

And Patch is starting. 1721.45 MB

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Originally Posted by WrenDark

Launcher just started to update for me.

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Ditto.. just launched it to check..logging in now to see what happens


1721mb download just started...pulling at only 1MB/sec, but still under an hour to get it at that rate.

launcher is updating for me as well.

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Originally Posted by WrenDark

Launcher just started to update for me.

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Thanks!

/10char

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Originally Posted by WrenDark

And Patch is starting. 1721.45 MB

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Only 1436.32 for me