Punishment for exploitation of Power Leveling

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Can you quote where he said it was a "Bug" or and "exploit"

Maybe you read something we all didn't.

I recall "we didn't expect it to be used this way"

Remind you of anything?

Ninja FFXI?

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i just read it

no where in the post does it say the mechanic isnt working as intended

what they are saying is there is an issue with people "AFK"ing during it

now that i can see as an issue, and in its own way "illegal" play

you cant be afk and benefit from it, thats obviously not how its supposed to work

but no where in it does he say they misprogrammed it

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It doesnt say its a bug, it says not working how they thought (People AOEing).

Its like FFXI Ninja did not work as how they intended.

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Really guys?

He specifically says that the limiting of exp with a higher level player in the party is not working. The translation is literally "not working as intended." Which means bugged. Which means exploit.

Just cause you like the exp doesn't mean you can suddenly convince me I can't read lol.

So all they have to do is make it so the player has to have at least a green enmity icon in order to gain exp in that case. so now, shield-bearing PL'er only has to pull a bunch of mobs, war drums, PL'd pler love taps each of them, AOE. makes it take a little longer. sound good?

At the beginning of the game, there was another instance of "clever use of mechanics" by which conjurers could level 1-50 in a couple of days. The offenders got all the unfair experience removed when this was fixed. With this precedent in mind I don't see why SE shouldn't do the same now.

Note that I'm perfectly happy with the PLing as it is now and would like it to stay as is, but if SE now claim that this was not intended behaviour and it is an unfair way of earning experience, then they should definitely remove all the experience that was unfairly given out, along with fixing the bug that allows this in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Travesty

Really guys?

He specifically says that the limiting of exp with a higher level player in the party is not working. The translation is literally "not working as intended." Which means bugged. Which means exploit.

Just cause you like the exp doesn't mean you can suddenly convince me I can't read lol.

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yes
we like the exp
we LOVE the exp

we are so taking advantage of the exp

oh wait we had all our combat classes to 50 before the patch!

yes, we are really all about the exp here....


look at who your talking to about this lol, we arent the ones taking advantage o fit, but we understand "bad translation dev talk" pretty well, a few of us follow them very closely and usualy can tell what bad wording is or what they mean.


the inhibitor thats not working is the old claim system(its not working cuz they removed it)
they didnt think it through fully is what hes pretty much admiting to

thats not a bug or exploit, they dont use the word bug or exploit

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Originally Posted by Reika

So all they have to do is make it so the player has to have at least a green enmity icon in order to gain exp in that case. so now, shield-bearing PL'er only has to pull a bunch of mobs, war drums, PL'd pler love taps each of them, AOE. makes it take a little longer. sound good?

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Actually because of the nature of ranged attacks in this game it will probably slow it down considerably. The low level having to tag each mob first puts them in considerably more danger than the way it is now.

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Originally Posted by Reika

So all they have to do is make it so the player has to have at least a green enmity icon in order to gain exp in that case. so now, shield-bearing PL'er only has to pull a bunch of mobs, war drums, PL'd pler love taps each of them, AOE. makes it take a little longer. sound good?

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honestly, that doesnt sound like a bad idea to me
if you dont engage the mob(attack it) you shouldnt get exp for being afk....

Wow really ? The people on this forums go really far sometimes on things, i mean ok they gonna adress PL after all the crying and bitching about it, but now you wanna punish people for it too ? Damm!

Yeah lets go ahead and ban all the people, is not like this game is suffering from low populations right ?

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Originally Posted by Travesty

Just cause you like the exp doesn't mean you can suddenly convince me I can't read lol.

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I really dont think you can read. Especially considering on the color post he explains the bugs n flaws, but this is just "Not working as intended." which is "We didnt think you guys would link 10 mobs and aoe them".

Blame QA.

Not to mention, the system is gunna stay, just AFK will have a counter measure.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

yes
we like the exp
we LOVE the exp

we are so taking advantage of the exp

oh wait we had all our combat classes to 50 before the patch!

yes, we are really all about the exp here....


look at who your talking to about this lol, we arent the ones taking advantage o fit, but we understand "bad translation dev talk" pretty well, a few of us follow them very closely and usualy can tell what bad wording is or what they mean.


the inhibitor thats not working is the old claim system(its not working cuz they removed it)
they didnt think it through fully is what hes pretty much admiting to

thats not a bug or exploit, they dont use the word bug or exploit

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It's not the old claim system lol. It's having a high level IN your party. It should be limiting exp with a high level in a lower level's party. It isn't. It is broken. Period. That's just what's going on lol.

To the OP, go get PLed to even things out. Then you can stop feeling sorry for yourself, or whatever kind of jealousy it is you are feeling.

The fact that you are trying to "get back" at these people who are being PLed disturbs me more than the people being PLed themselves. Grow a pair and ignore it. Its getting fixed.

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Originally Posted by Travesty

Actually because of the nature of ranged attacks in this game it will probably slow it down considerably. The low level having to tag each mob first puts them in considerably more danger than the way it is now.

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I believe the thing is the high level is partied with the low level, so the low level does not have to claim anything. the high level just blows them up and the low level is on auto-follow or something.

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Originally Posted by Travesty

It's not the old claim system lol. It's having a high level IN your party. It should be limiting exp with a high level in a lower level's party. It isn't. It is broken. Period. That's just what's going on lol.

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But that will not change or if you make it so you cant have a PL in the PT then you affectively remove PLing.

A mob 10 lvs above you could easily kill you and make the whole process slow.

Should of just done level sync

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

honestly, that doesnt sound like a bad idea to me
if you dont engage the mob(attack it) you shouldnt get exp for being afk....

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The low level can also just cast cure I or sac I and obtain the same effect lol.

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Originally Posted by XxOstiaxX

Wow really ? The people on this forums go really far sometimes on things, i mean ok they gonna adress PL after all the crying and bitching about it, but now you wanna punish people for it too ? Damm!

Yeah lets go ahead and ban all the people, is not like this game is suffering from low populations right ?

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They aren't going to ban people.
People saying it's a bug can't read or they read what they want and skip the rest.

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Originally Posted by viion

But that will not change or if you make it so you cant have a PL in the PT then you affectively remove PLing.

A mob 10 lvs above you could easily kill you and make the whole process slow.

Should of just done level sync

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Level Sync would fix this issue. This way you can still "help out a friend" and not hinder their experience with the game low-mid levels.

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Originally Posted by viion

But that will not change or if you make it so you cant have a PL in the PT then you affectively remove PLing.

A mob 10 lvs above you could easily kill you and make the whole process slow.

Should of just done level sync

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No, you're completely incorrect lol. The way it's supposed to be is that anyone can attack a mob, claimed or not. But the first person to tag it gets the exp and items. The way it is now, the high level can be in your party and you don't even have to touch the mob to get the rewards. That's what they're going to fix. The low level will have to tag the mobs, then have the high level, outside the party, help kill them.

I like it the idea of "Punishment", we should push for a.... Full wipe for everyone.

All for one, One for all?

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Originally Posted by Reika

I believe the thing is the high level is partied with the low level, so the low level does not have to claim anything. the high level just blows them up and the low level is on auto-follow or something.

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That's the way it is now, because the exp limiter for a high level in your party isn't working. Once that's fixed, the high level will have to be outside the party and the low level will have to tag the mobs first in order to get exp.

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Originally Posted by Isaveron

I feel there should be some sort of punishment for those who willing took advantage of power leveling. Either a rollback of the ill gotten experience points, or even a suspension or ban for the really big exploiters. It's unfair to those that leveled legitimately.

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Then you would feel a lot better about the levels you got slowly huh? I agree, tons of people should be banned, suspended, or rolled back so you feel better. You poor thing.

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Originally Posted by Travesty

No, you're completely incorrect lol. The way it's supposed to be is that anyone can attack a mob, claimed or not. But the first person to tag it gets the exp and items. The way it is now, the high level can be in your party and you don't even have to touch the mob to get the rewards. That's what they're going to fix. The low level will have to tag the mobs, then have the high level, outside the party, help kill them.

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That's what I thought Yoshi was talking about before the patch. lmao That was exactly what i was expecting. Though, its still going to result in mass xp and kills whether or not the PL is outside or within the party. Its just the same system but more complicated, only have to fight lower level mobs that cant one-hit you.

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Originally Posted by Writheheart

Everyone disagreeing has obviously abused the power leveling exploit and doesn't wanna get banned, looool.

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I don't think SE can rightfully punish people for taking advantage of a system that SE itself put in place.
People will try to find the easiest/most efficient ways of doing things, and SE allowed PLing by their own decisions.

I know people who power leveled from R1 to R50 in 3 days or less after 1.19.
That's fine for them. I wish them luck in their game and hope they enjoy it now that they skipped all the way to R50.

Have I ever done it? Would I do it? Absolutely not.
I am enjoying every day of the journey, and PLing goes against my idea of having fun.

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Originally Posted by Nuru

That's what I thought Yoshi was talking about before the patch. lmao That was exactly what i was expecting. Though, its still going to result in mass xp and kills whether or not the PL is outside or within the party. Its just the same system but more complicated, only have to fight lower level mobs that cant one-hit you.

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Yes, that's true. But the insane exp numbers we're seeing now will die because they're coming from high levels just blowing up crowds of mobs, and they won't be able to do that anymore since the low level will have to tag them.

...I just believe...that there should be justice and honesty in the world...even if its just an online world. Isn't that close enough to the real world? I mean I met my soon to be once I see her wife through the real world, so its special in a way.

Those who abuse should be punished hands down. Do you think christ would allow such a thing like this in his world?

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Originally Posted by Keramory

...I just believe...that there should be justice and honesty in the world...even if its just an online world. Isn't that close enough to the real world? I mean I met my soon to be once I see her wife through the real world, so its special in a way.

Those who abuse should be punished hands down. Do you think christ would allow such a thing like this in his world?

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What are you high on?

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Why? What did they do to you? They didn't harm you in any way.

What are you proposing anyway? that like half the playerbase gets banned?

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Everytime i see this fallacy it makes me angry.

Easy access to a max rank character affects everything from the economy and the supply and demand of low-mid level equipment, all the way to players available to partying, and trusting that majority of max rank characters being able to preform they're role in a party successfully.


I don't think they should be punished but i think SE needs to act on this before it gets more out of hand, and discourages people from trying to learn how to party the way they're supposed to. At the very least announce they're position on the matter so that I can know if its going to go away or not. Cause if its not then i'll stop playing, but if it isn't i'll level crafts till they fix it.

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Originally Posted by Travesty

No, you're completely incorrect lol. The way it's supposed to be is that anyone can attack a mob, claimed or not. But the first person to tag it gets the exp and items. The way it is now, the high level can be in your party and you don't even have to touch the mob to get the rewards. That's what they're going to fix. The low level will have to tag the mobs, then have the high level, outside the party, help kill them.

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Are you really this blind? It was the first party to attack and it was ALWAYS going to be this, go read the patch notes and every pre dev letter, No where does it state the first PERSON only the first PARTY which is working exactly as intended.

Since when does God have anything to do with FFXIV?

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Originally Posted by Keramory

...I just believe...that there should be justice and honesty in the world...even if its just an online world. Isn't that close enough to the real world? I mean I met my soon to be once I see her wife through the real world, so its special in a way.

Those who abuse should be punished hands down. Do you think christ would allow such a thing like this in his world?

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LMAO What rock do some of you people come out from under?

I fully agree with OP, I miss when the times when one had to actually grind for several hours a day to see some sort of progress in exp. Lets turn this new Final Fantasy into another version of XI so we can give the babies their bottles.

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Originally Posted by Keramory

...I just believe...that there should be justice and honesty in the world...even if its just an online world. Isn't that close enough to the real world? I mean I met my soon to be once I see her wife through the real world, so its special in a way.

Those who abuse should be punished hands down. Do you think christ would allow such a thing like this in his world?

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So now abusing a human being is = to the rate you gain a numerical value in a videogame?

Let's not forget that when a disciple cut off one of the soldier's ears who came to arrest him, Jesus healed it back onto his head.

I'm just high on the idea of equality for all players, new and old. Such injustices should not go un punished. We all read captian america as children, we all know how to behave.

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Originally Posted by KenJammin

At the very least announce they're position on the matter so that I can know if its going to go away or not. Cause if its not then i'll stop playing, but if it isn't i'll level crafts till they fix it.

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Um.... They already did. Pling is here to stay, Yoshi wants it, he stands by that. He does not want people AFKing and that is the only issue at hand they plan to address.

SMITE ME GOD FOR I HAVE POWER LEVELED AND BEEN POWER LEVELED, I CONFESS THY SINS.

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Originally Posted by Treach

SMITE ME GOD FOR I HAVE POWER LEVELED AND BEEN POWER LEVELED, I CONFESS THY SINS.

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lol ,,

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Originally Posted by Keramory

I'm just high on the idea of equality for all players, new and old. Such injustices should not go un punished. We all read captian america as children, we all know how to behave.

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Keramory, you are my one and true sweetheart from the ground up. I wish you were a boyfriend free girl that I could be with.

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Originally Posted by Keramory

I'm just high on the idea of equality for all players, new and old. Such injustices should not go un punished. We all read captian america as children, we all know how to behave.

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youbtrollin'

lol

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Originally Posted by Keramory

I'm just high on the idea of equality for all players, new and old. Such injustices should not go un punished. We all read captian america as children, we all know how to behave.

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Captian America sucks.... Didn't you see his new movie?

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Originally Posted by Xorfos

I wish you were a boyfriend free girl that I could be with.

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How do you know its female? Well I guess it doesn't matter really.

A Cat is fine too.

I THINK LEVELING UP IS COMPLETELY DEMONIC.

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Originally Posted by Zeroeffect

Captian America sucks.... Didn't you see his new movie?

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Off-Topic: I did see the movie and it didn't suck to me, I actually liked it since I saw X-Men First Class a few months before. lol To each their own ^^;

Anyways, whatever the case may be, Yoshi admitted that the system isn't the way he intended to be, what he intends to fix is beyond me, whether it be the AFK problem or just the bullshits amount of XP gained, it will be fixed. Hot damn.