Examples of gameplay you think is a form of torture. Let's hear 'em!

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Originally Posted by ChronicalSin

@#*$ &%£!!!

You dont know what the @#*$ you're talking about!! *Gorilla chest pound*

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The fact it took me 2 times through the game to grasp the ENTIRETY of the story I felt indicated a bad translation.

Albeit, the second time was post-anime fandom, so I had a better grasp in some of the cultural references. But the first time, I thought it was stupid.

EDIT: And VIII....such an awesome story buried under all sorts of bad translation.

Killing the same monster over and over and over for hours on end as the sole means of exp. Screw you FFXI.

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Originally Posted by Galliano

wide scanning for Leaping Lizzy in XI sent me a little insane, after a few hours I kept seeing his name in with all the other lizards even when it wasn't there.

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Sometimes I still have visions of seeing the Leaping Lizzy text on widescan when I go to sleep...like the image has been burned into my brain.

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farming, grinding, and crafting without any purpose other than to level up to do more of the same.

Not having a single remotely difficult fight in a game..

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Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK

Most sill-annoying thing? Bad translations/dialogue from the earlier FF games. They were great but tacky lol. (Especially most of the Barrett's lines in VII)

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You forgot, "This guy are sick." :)

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Originally Posted by whoopeeragon

You forgot, "This guy are sick." :)

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-Red XIII's "Spring Gun Clip" is supposed to be a "Spriggan Clip".

Hoooolyy Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii~

Funny little thing you could make Red XIII's name Nanaki and you get some silly dialogue from the other party members when he finally reveals his name (I believe Cloud says something along the lines of "Nanaki? Nanaki, your name is Nanaki?")

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Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK

Funny little thing you could make Red XIII's name Nanaki and you get some silly dialogue from the other party members when he finally reveals his name (I believe Cloud says something along the lines of "Nanaki? Nanaki, your name is Nanaki?")

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Nanaki's real name is Nanaki.
ahh shit..

I think Cloud said something more like, "Why are they calling Nanaki Nanaki?"

Still, Barret's lines amuse me the most.

"Haeey!! Baaeby!!"

"Cetra? That some kinda disease?"

"You spiky haired jerk!"

And how could we forget, "I wanna be a blitzball when I grow up."

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Originally Posted by ChronicalSin

-Red XIII's "Spring Gun Clip" is supposed to be a "Spriggan Clip".

Hoooolyy Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii~

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Hey! I like my "Touph Ring"!

Playing FFXIV for a few days then attempting to play FFXII.

The drastic decrease in resolution gives me a headache XD

Really? someone actually posted this? I hope this is a troll bait post to round them all up throw them into ifrits pit. Why would you start a post asking for negativity spanning over a companies history of games?

Just....sad.

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Originally Posted by Tempestmoon

Really? someone actually posted this? I hope this is a troll bait post to round them all up throw them into ifrits pit. Why would you start a post asking for negativity spanning over a companies history of games?

Just....sad.

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Whilst it is true that it's asking for negativity it also helps Square to see what parts of the game and games before it people dislike, so that changes to FFXIV and future FF games can avoid those problems.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

FFXIV Craft Grinding. I could learn to weave real clothes in that amount of time.

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Forms of torture? Yes, crafting. I saw this thread title and crafting was the first thing that popped into my mind.

They could make a new Saw movie, and FFXIV's crafting could be one of Jigsaw's sick little games.

Just imagine it, a scene where some guy wakes up, tied in a chair, with a TV in front of him and a controller in his lap. He looks around the room, confused... Suddenly, Jigsaw appears on the TV and says "Lets play a game.... Rank up the Weaver class to level 40 in FFXIV by making Hempen Doublets...." Jigsaw laughs and the screen changes to FFXIV. Later on in the movie, the scene changes back to the guy who had to rank up Weaver and he has gouged his eyes out and strangled himself with the controller.

That is my take on FFXIV crafting.

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Originally Posted by Nikita

Forms of torture? Yes, crafting. I saw this thread title and crafting was the first thing that popped into my mind.

They could make a new Saw movie, and FFXIV's crafting could be one of Jigsaw's sick little games.

Just imagine it, a scene where some guy wakes up, tied in a chair, with a TV in front of him and a controller in his lap. He looks around the room, confused... Suddenly, Jigsaw appears on the TV and says "Lets play a game.... Rank up the Weaver class to level 40 in FFXIV by making Hempen Doublets...." Jigsaw laughs and the screen changes to FFXIV. Later on in the movie, the scene changes back to the guy who had to rank up Weaver and he has gouged his eyes out and strangled himself with the controller.

That is my take on FFXIV crafting.

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It'd be worse to make him rank up Armoursmithing, that was a total nightmare just to get to rank 20 and it ate all my shards :(

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Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK

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Most sill-annoying thing? Bad translations/dialogue from the earlier FF games. They were great but tacky lol. (Especially most of the Barrett's lines in VII)

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Bad translations are my favourite part... Launch all zig anyone?

The most annoying part for me has to be the lack of transportation options in FFXIV (other than teleporting) but that will no longer be the case soon.

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Originally Posted by Tempestmoon

Really? someone actually posted this? I hope this is a troll bait post to round them all up throw them into ifrits pit. Why would you start a post asking for negativity spanning over a companies history of games?

Just....sad.

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I disagree. This can be a very constructive thread if you ignore the idiots who respond with stuff like "FFXIVlol /10char".

Torturous gameplay to me mostly boils down to inconsistent framerate. This is one of the main reasons I can't stand playing a lot of games on the 360 (FFXI is the worst offender here). PS3 is guilty of this to a lesser extent, but the main thing is developers believing the consoles are as powerful as Sony and Microsoft claim they are. I think SE has learned this the hard way with XI and XIV.

EDIT: And as far as the framerate in XIV is concerned, I plunked down some serious coin for my PC, so I don't have an issue with it. Your mileage may vary.

8 people parties... no joke... that's like a mini raid... 4-6 is perfect for normal pt'ing in mmo or otherwise xD I prefer and think a small party size is much more strategic and personal, not to mention way more fun :)

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Originally Posted by Misha

8 people parties... no joke... that's like a mini raid... 4-6 is perfect for normal pt'ing in mmo or otherwise xD I prefer and think a small party size is much more strategic and personal, not to mention way more fun :)

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What are you smoking? Yoshi-P had the party size reduced from 15 to 8 not long ago! :p

Oh, another form of torture in XIV: Being forced to bum-rush your way through a timed dungeon to reach the endboss in order to achieve the majority of rewards. Seriously, that is NOT relaxing or enjoyable at all! I'd rather have dungeons that are not timed, so I don't have to go "OMG OMG, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME, HURRY, KILL BATRAAL!"

Seriously, Yoshi-P. In some ways, you are going in the wrong direction when you want to be "casual friendly", and adding timers does not help.

P.S. Because of this problem, the chances of an "international" party of JP/Western gamers ever succeeding in Dzemael Darkhold or Toto-Rak have been cratered way past below zero. Way to promote multiculturalism!

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Originally Posted by Lucinda_Lecore

I completely agree. the Linear feel from the recent FF games is horrible. It's like playing a 3d sonic game

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Really? That's what I like most about the recent one I've played(not 14 i mean)

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I completely agree. the Linear feel from the recent FF games is horrible. It's like playing a 3d sonic game

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Well to be fair, when sonic's running at 500 miles per hour, it gets kind of hard to turn corners and explore the surroundings, you just kind of... go with it. Doesn't take away the case that Sonic Adventure 1 + 2 both had excellent sales ;)

While this is a thread of negativity would just like to point out that everyone here is taking it to a lighthearted level of fun and nostalgia (for the most part at least that is), I believe we are handling this very maturely and like already mentioned its a great way for SE to look through what people don't like in their games, and since this is the topic at hand there isn't much flaming or trolling going on, so its easier to read for them (since they don't have to weed through all the trolls).

Ah, just thought of another one.

Window shopping in the market wards.

Seriously, that foot-fall noise all the retainers do REALLY grinds on my nerves. Only takes about 30 seconds of constant foot-tapping sound effects and I want to kill everyone in there >.<

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Originally Posted by SilvertearRen

Oh, another form of torture in XIV: Being forced to bum-rush your way through a timed dungeon to reach the endboss in order to achieve the majority of rewards. Seriously, that is NOT relaxing or enjoyable at all! I'd rather have dungeons that are not timed, so I don't have to go "OMG OMG, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME, HURRY, KILL BATRAAL!"

Seriously, Yoshi-P. In some ways, you are going in the wrong direction when you want to be "casual friendly", and adding timers does not help.

P.S. Because of this problem, the chances of an "international" party of JP/Western gamers ever succeeding in Dzemael Darkhold or Toto-Rak have been cratered way past below zero. Way to promote multiculturalism!

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I gotta agree with this. What's the point of putting us all on the same servers if the activities are gonna be next to impossible to overcome if there's a language barrier?

And on general principle, I do not like being forced to run through and away from the enemies instead of defeating or avoiding them.

I used to think lvling Gathering was torture, before I found the good website and knew where to get the nodes. Now I like it a lot.

But yea, Ive never felt so tortured as when I would camp NMs in XI. Maybe today it will spawn! WTF, that JP guy had it claimed before It even popped on my screen!

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I gotta agree with this. What's the point of putting us all on the same servers if the activities are gonna be next to impossible to overcome if there's a language barrier?

And on general principle, I do not like being forced to run through and away from the enemies instead of defeating or avoiding them.

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QFT!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

It'd be worse to make him rank up Armoursmithing, that was a total nightmare just to get to rank 20 and it ate all my shards :(

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Welcome to CRP.

FFXI black belt.. wtf was the point in having a group of people get an item for you that you were suppose to earn as a martial artist? It should have been an extremely hard quest but soloable atleast.

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Originally Posted by SilvertearRen

What are you smoking? Yoshi-P had the party size reduced from 15 to 8 not long ago! :p

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What are YOU smoking? lmfao! That's common knowledge and has NOTHING to do with what I said! Him reducing party size has nothing to do with CURRENT party size requirements or limitations. Pay attention, especially if you're going to quote someone *facepalm* Just because there was a reduction doesn't make the current number perfect atm nor feel any less zerg or raid like... Doubt you'll understand the simplicity if you didn't get my last comment though so stopping here lmao >.< ... sad attempt at trolling! *sigh* ... my troll list ... err block list, is filing up fast ^^ Luckly a good 10% or so of the community isn't like this xD

That said, being a mmo... next on my list is the current community as a whole. How does that affect gameplay? I'll let everyone figure that out by themselves if they can LoL (Feel free to give Feral Ren a hand though... or troll-nip, w/e they prefer o.O)

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What are YOU smoking? lmfao! That's common knowledge and has NOTHING to do with what I said! Him reducing party size has nothing to do with CURRENT party size requirements or limitations. Pay attention, especially if you're going to quote someone *facepalm* Just because there was a reduction doesn't make the current number perfect atm nor feel any less zerg or raid like... Doubt you'll understand the simplicity if you didn't get my last comment though so stopping here lmao >.< ... sad attempt at trolling! *sigh*

That said, being a mmo... next on my list is the current community as a whole. How does that affect gameplay? I'll let everyone figure that out by themselves if they can LoL (Feel free to give Feral Ren a hand though... or troll-nip, w/e they prefer o.O)

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It wasn't a troll, really. My goal was to have people suggest what they thought were problematic mechanics/implementation in SE's games. If it was a troll, it would have resulted in me being much derpier.

And yes, the community DOES affect gameplay. For example, people immediately jumped on the "ARC IS AWESOME" bandwagon when Dzemael Darkhold first came out, and everyone was going pure mage/arc/gla parties, and it was driving me nuts.

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It wasn't a troll, really. My goal was to have people suggest what they thought were problematic mechanics/implementation in SE's games. If it was a troll, it would have resulted in me being much derpier.

And yes, the community DOES affect gameplay. For example, people immediately jumped on the "ARC IS AWESOME" bandwagon when Dzemael Darkhold first came out, and everyone was going pure mage/arc/gla parties, and it was driving me nuts.

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ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

market ward music reminds me of the price is right game show music. not a good thing.. tacky.

Dragon Ball Z 2 on the NES

at one stage, we have to use Krilin travel alone on the planet Namek and if the enemies appear he will get kill

I have to save every single step, press reset button if the enemies appear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QJxIomZZnw

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Standing in place playing rock paper scissors with an AI

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

FFXIV Craft Grinding. I could learn to weave real clothes in that amount of time.

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As sad as that is, its actually true. LOL I should really try weaving in real life so I can make more cosplays. >.<