My graditude. Please show yours <Calling all devs!>

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Originally Posted by Blarp

It's also the job they are paid to do. I don't work a 14 hour day where I have a mountain of work to do and expect or even want to be thanked; I expect to be paid. I don't thank my trash man for dealing with all the garbage. I expect him to do it because that is his job.

Had they worked their assess off earlier, they wouldn't be in this predicament. Part of this community seems to suffer from Stockholm Syndrome. "Thank you for working on a game that was released completely broken and making it slightly less broken with an entire year worth of development." The concept just boggles my mind.

I don't totally dislike the game, but I'm not prepared to thank the developers for making the progress they've made so far. It's really not that amazing and some would even consider progress thus far to be rather slow.

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You do understand that the team that took over in Nov/Dec is basically recreating this game right? And I am fairly certain Yoshi-P works longer than a 14 hour day...

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Originally Posted by Aykatu

You do understand that the team that took over in Nov/Dec is basically recreating this game right? And I am fairly certain Yoshi-P works longer than a 14 hour work day...

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Yes, I'm aware. Yoshi and company are being paid to do a job. Should I thank them for doing a job? How in the world would you know about his sleeping habits? It was an example.

I thank people for doing something they're not obligated to do i.e. open a door for me, buy me lunch etc.

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Originally Posted by Blarp

Yes, I'm aware. Yoshi and company are being paid to do a job. Should I thank them for doing a job? How in the world would you know about his sleeping habits? It was an example.

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Because he has discussed them...

You are correct ma'am, you should not appreciate other people's work and dedication. Bc you are so amazing!

The dev team is not obligated to to ask our opinions, provide these forums for you to whine, or to provide us the information as much as they do. However, they do.

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Originally Posted by Aykatu

Because he has discussed them...

You are correct ma'am, you should not appreciate other peoples work and dedication.

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Like I said, I don't think it's necessary to thank people for doing a job that they're being paid for. They're professionals. They don't need a gold star for doing a good job. Do you go to work and hope your boss thanks you for doing the job he pays you for?

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Originally Posted by Blarp

Like I said, I don't think it's necessary to thank people for doing a job that they're being paid for. They're professionals. They don't need a gold star for doing a good job. Do you go to work and hope your boss thanks you for doing the job he pays you for?

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First, lol

Second, /derp

Third, lol

Thanks for doing your job Blarp!! I appreciate it!

I stopped playing after December last year and have recently returned to see how things are. They are better, but still very disappointing considering how long it's been; many of the original flaws are still prevalent. I will gladly offer up my thanks as soon as they deliver a game worth paying for because if they started charging tomorrow I can garauntee half the players would leave. At the rate they are progressing, this game won't hit the ps3 til 2013, and if they put it out in 2012 for the ps3 I would wager it would be met with much of the same reviews as they original.

Only things that are worth thanking this dev team:

-UI changes
-New WS animations
-/pose
-Bikinis
-Events since last easter

Other than this they onlt f'ed up things even more. Also, while i agree that they don't need thanks for doing their jobs, i do think it's a good thing the community show their appreciation when they feel they did something right. It's just like me annd Minagawa team...while i hate several parts of this dev team with passion, Minagawa team has been doing some outstanding work at UI, Nobuo Uematsu and Akihiko Yoshida too (these two are between SE "pearls"...the day even they start failing on their duty SE is doomed =P)...and the event team (which unfortunately i don't whow who is the lead) also did a great job.

But any appreciation ends here...if i start talking about battle or the "creative" concepts of modern MMOs this dev team is using, i'd end having my post removed for "depreciative remarks"...again.

So we should not give thanks to CS that help us solving our problem?
We should not give thanks to mechanic that repair our car?

OMG, what would this world becomes without even a little gratitude....

Sorry to the "positivity" people, but I have to side with the "negativity crowd."

There's already the pretty silly "thread of a thousand thank-yous" on this board. Frankly, that shouldn't even be here.

This dev team is not that different from the team that released this game initially. The reason they're working so hard now is because they apparently didn't work, or didn't do the right work, before they released a piece of crap to all the fans. Sure, it's great that they're working hard to fix it, but it CERTAINLY doesn't deserve special thanks. If anything it deserves the assurance that IF they're successful in turning the game around, then the playerbase will stick around.

Remember 2 points. 1)Everyone here who plays this game has paid something for a product that is still considered rather poor quality by the people who made it. 2) This is their job. Fixing their own mistakes doesn't deserve special thanks.


And as a side note, consider for a moment that the over saturation of fanboyism like this thread might be part of the reason we have a poor game on our hands. I'm sure it contributes to a feeling of infallibility among the developers and a sense that whatever they put out is going to be enjoyed. Maybe tone it down a bit, thanks.

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Originally Posted by Travesty

Sorry to the "positivity" people, but I have to side with the "negativity crowd."

There's already the pretty silly "thread of a thousand thank-yous" on this board. Frankly, that shouldn't even be here.

This dev team is not that different from the team that released this game initially. The reason they're working so hard now is because they apparently didn't work, or didn't do the right work, before they released a piece of crap to all the fans. Sure, it's great that they're working hard to fix it, but it CERTAINLY doesn't deserve special thanks. If anything it deserves the assurance that IF they're successful in turning the game around, then the playerbase will stick around.

Remember 2 points. 1)Everyone here who plays this game has paid something for a product that is still considered rather poor quality by the people who made it. 2) This is their job. Fixing their own mistakes doesn't deserve special thanks.


And as a side note, consider for a moment that the over saturation of fanboyism like this thread might be part of the reason we have a poor game on our hands. I'm sure it contributes to a feeling of infallibility among the developers and a sense that whatever they put out is going to be enjoyed. Maybe tone it down a bit, thanks.

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I agree. It's just like your dog pooping on the couch and you not beating the hell out of it...over time it will start thinking that pooping there is alright and keep doing it...and we don't want the dev team spoiled, do we? We need them on their toes, working as hard and the best they can to offer a good result (which i'm already waiting for an year to see...until now this dev team only frustrated me).

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Originally Posted by Travesty

Sorry to the "positivity" people, but I have to side with the "negativity crowd."

There's already the pretty silly "thread of a thousand thank-yous" on this board. Frankly, that shouldn't even be here.

This dev team is not that different from the team that released this game initially. The reason they're working so hard now is because they apparently didn't work, or didn't do the right work, before they released a piece of crap to all the fans. Sure, it's great that they're working hard to fix it, but it CERTAINLY doesn't deserve special thanks. If anything it deserves the assurance that IF they're successful in turning the game around, then the playerbase will stick around.

Remember 2 points. 1)Everyone here who plays this game has paid something for a product that is still considered rather poor quality by the people who made it. 2) This is their job. Fixing their own mistakes doesn't deserve special thanks.


And as a side note, consider for a moment that the over saturation of fanboyism like this thread might be part of the reason we have a poor game on our hands. I'm sure it contributes to a feeling of infallibility among the developers and a sense that whatever they put out is going to be enjoyed. Maybe tone it down a bit, thanks.

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See its not that hard to say thanks, c'mon people, this thread needs more gratitude and appreciation; if you don't think so then stop posting in this thread.

~To the DEVs team, thank you for your hard work.

@OP: Thanks for making this thread, you spell gratitute wrong btw :)

so now we comparing human working an dog's pooping? devs is human, sure it is their job fixing this the game that they messed up. But now they doing their job, fixing this game. A little gratitude wont halt the development.

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Originally Posted by Lienn

I agree. It's just like your dog pooping on the couch and you not beating the hell out of it...over time it will start thinking that pooping there is alright and keep doing it...and we don't want the dev team spoiled, do we? We need them on their toes, working as hard and the best they can to offer a good result (which i'm already waiting for an year to see...until now this dev team only frustrated me).

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What a horrid analogy lmfao *facepalm* You know nothing of dog psychology and are [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.] if you beat one for doing such a thing :S

[Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.]. If you people only see minimal changes you clearly haven't been following the game. In addition to the patches and changes we have gotten so far, all the interviews and sharing of info, plus ALL the planning and work already done for patches 1.20 and 1.21, fullly new and upgraded server hardware implmentation soon, mass server AND base coding changes to the game, as well as work on expansion in the process, and stuff we also probably don't know about even, with a limited team and budget, they are doing above and beyond. Ya they're REALLY lazy people who have done nothing at all *sarcasm*

So thank you dev team, people are still crying over the launch and can't get over themselves. Luckly those people are in the minority and people who have the brain power to look at everything as a whole can see the mass amounts of work your doing with what you have to deal with. It's above what most mmo devs will ever do or ever have to do. Glad to also hear we are only 50% done with changes once 1.19 is out... looking forward to the future of the game and its corresponding re-release!

[IRONY MODE ON]
Thanks to those whiners who expected a game with content comparable to a game that takes 10 years on the market that do not play or will return to the game.
Thanks to Square-Enix for heeding these whiners that will never change the game and development team stalling the evolution of the game.
Thank you for changing things that worked well and not fixing what is wrong.
[IRONY MODE OFF]


Thanks to the development team handle the load assigned to them because of others.

Tanaka we miss you

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Originally Posted by Xeno

Lol, do you do this with other games too? If you really appreciate them, send 'em a letter.

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Isn't that kinda what we're doing here?

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Originally Posted by Aion

So we should not give thanks to CS that help us solving our problem?
We should not give thanks to mechanic that repair our car?

OMG, what would this world becomes without even a little gratitude....

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^This. Absolutely.
I am eventually given thanks when doing my job; my answer is always the same: "Thank you, but there's no need to thank me for that. It's my job, you know... I'm being paid for this...". But you know what? I feel so good and it gives me energy to keep the good workin'. Yes, I'll keep the good workin' anyways, but hey, it doesn't hurt me at all when someone shows up gratitude.

OT, thanks to the entire dev team (including moderators @ forums) for your time, effort and patience.

I thank the bus driver for driving the bus when I reach my destination
I thank my mom when she makes my dinner
I thank the person at the bank whenever they deal with anything for me
I thank the person that holds the door open for me

So yes, I thank Square Enix for making a game that keeps me entertained for months.

If you don't think they deserve thanks, then you're pretty ignorant. End of

I love you Devs & SE~<3 :3

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Originally Posted by Cid

See its not that hard to say thanks, c'mon people, this thread needs more gratitude and appreciation; if you don't think so then stop posting in this thread.

~To the DEVs team, thank you for your hard work.

@OP: Thanks for making this thread, you spell gratitute wrong btw :)

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It's also not that hard to realize there isn't a whole lot of reason to say thanks. My original points stand, thanks.

I think we should postpone the cirlce-jerk fest until the patch actually is deployed.

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Originally Posted by Aion

So we should not give thanks to CS that help us solving our problem?
We should not give thanks to mechanic that repair our car?

OMG, what would this world becomes without even a little gratitude....

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Yeah, except here's the thing: You don't thank the mechanic if the reason your car needs repairing is because he destroyed your brakes trying to fix the radiator. At least, you don't thank him until he fixes his own mistakes.

That is an appropriate analogy to what has happened with this game. The dev team is fixing what they themselves broke. I'm sorry, but that DOES NOT deserve a bunch of fawning over their work.

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Originally Posted by Travesty

thank the mechanic if the reason your car needs repairing is because he destroyed your brakes trying to fix the radiator.

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Sure I do. I say, 'Thanks for breaking my shit."

Your posts are pretty much you being sad about stuff. Say it with me, "Whaa, I'm sad about stuff."

There, now don't you feel better?

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Originally Posted by Aykatu

Sure I do. I say, 'Thanks for breaking my shit."

Your posts are pretty much you being sad about stuff. Say it with me, "Whaa, I'm sad about stuff."

There, now don't you feel better?

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Whaa, I'm sad about stuff.



Hey I do kinda feel better! Thanks bro!

All you negativity people are full of crap. The biggest compliment you can give the devs is to keep playing the game. According to you, you've been playing this horrible piece of crap game with only a few ui changes for a year. What does that say about yourself when you're not forced to play?

Its good to give them feedback on things you dont like, but saying they are these lazy horrible people that dont know what they're doing yet you continue to play their game shows how hypocrite you are.

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Originally Posted by lenn1

All you negativity people are full of crap. The biggest compliment you can give the devs is to keep playing the game. According to you, you've been playing this horrible piece of crap game with only a few ui changes for a year. What does that say about yourself when you're not forced to play?

Its good to give them feedback on things you dont like, but saying they are these lazy horrible people that dont know what they're doing yet you continue to play their game shows how hypocrite you are.

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No one is saying they're lazy horrible people. We're saying they don't deserve special thanks for correcting problems they caused.

I mean seriously, what is the rationale behind creating "thank you" threads? This game was almost universally panned when it came out, and even the creators themselves acknowledge it still not even good enough to charge for. I just don't understand the reasoning behind telling the people responsible for that "hey, awesome job guys!" when the problems still persist.

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Originally Posted by Travesty

No one is saying they're lazy horrible people. We're saying they don't deserve special thanks for correcting problems they caused.

I mean seriously, what is the rationale behind creating "thank you" threads? This game was almost universally panned when it came out, and even the creators themselves acknowledge it still not even good enough to charge for. I just don't understand the reasoning behind telling the people responsible for that "hey, awesome job guys!" when the problems still persist.

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Go back to your shine box bro.

Nothing for you to see here, move on.

Hmmmm, I see there is some fighting going on ; ;. As I said in the first page on this thread. If you're going to say something negative, don't. Go make a "negativity" thread if you guys wanna complain. This thread was also made before the thousand thank yous one. Also I think the first(probably not). When you buy a game from a company your saying thank you. We said thank you to se when we first bought this game.... then we took it back. They are pretty much remaking the whole game, to those who don't think people need to be thanked for doing a good job, your work life must suck(crappy environment to work in). Ya its there job, they are going beyond what they have to do. That right there for you people saying "I don't thank people for doing there job. I only thank people that go out of their way to do something IE: Open doors ext..." They are going out of their way THEIR TIME to make us a game that we can play for months and years to come. So please leave the negativity on other threads, thank you!

psst: Just woke up, don't feel like fixing all the errors.

Wow... what on earth has the world come to. Manners are just non-existent.

Just because 'it's their job and they are paid to do it' does not mean they do not deserve thanks, and this works for any profession. If you're unhappy, fine, but throwing the actual pleased customer in the mud just for their opinion, is just idiotic. Unhappy customers can write letters too >.>

Saying thanks to the work they have done, especially since several are NOT the original team, can help someone feel better about getting paid for said job and work harder to improve customer service. Again, this works for any profession. I'm not saying don't mention what you're unhappy with either, I know there's some changes I don't like, but that doesn't mean someone's opinion opposite of yours is wrong.

We are not saying Thank you for the game in it's entirety, atleast I'm not (yet), but this game has changed quite a bit since release, and it wouldn't have happened if it weren't for them or else XIV would have been scrapped already.

So to the devs, you have my thanks for your hard work thus far in trying to make Eorzea a better place. Looking forward to future updates!

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Originally Posted by Rokien

We said thank you to se when we first bought this game.... then we took it back. They are pretty much remaking the whole game, to those who don't think people need to be thanked for doing a good job, your work life must suck(crappy environment to work in). Ya its there job, they are going beyond what they have to do. That right there for you people saying "I don't thank people for doing there job. I only thank people that go out of their way to do something IE: Open doors ext..." They are going out of their way THEIR TIME to make us a game that we can play for months and years to come. So please leave the negativity on other threads, thank you!

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See this is what I don't get. I DO thank people for doing their jobs, once said job is completed. This job is not, which is abundantly clear from the fact that they still aren't charging for the game, and admit it's still full of problems. That's my point. They're still trying to get back to breaking even on the original agreement they made to the people who purchased this game.

You make it sound like they're donating their time to us as a charity, which is why I take issue with threads like this. That's delusional. I wouldn't really have an issue with people saying "hey, good job working to fix your mistakes, I hope you succeed" but that's not the sentiment these kinds of posts convey. They make it seem like something extraordinary is going on with the dev team doing special things(which you clearly feel they are) for us lucky players, and that's not the case. They're trying to bring a poor product back up to the quality they originally said it would be, and they're not there yet. It's like thanking someone for water when they chained you up and deprived you of it for a couple days for no reason, or a kidnapper getting thanks for rescuing and returning the person they kidnapped. The situation that they're now having to work hard to fix is of their own creation. It just doesn't make sense to me to be thanking them for that, especially when they still haven't broken even.

Anyway, I've said my peace. I'll leave you to your thread.

I will gladly show my gratitude. Do you seriously think that some people only work for money? If they believed in something they do amazing things with it. A lil gratitude never hurt.

I'd like to slap a frying pan made of cast iron at all of you who think it's merely a job or that they are being paid for it. Seriously? Do you even know how most of these jobs work these days? Do you even understand the cultural implications of some of your statements?

With salaries going down and in salaried positions your job is threatened if you don't accomplish said thing by deadline. You are a dime a dozen if you don't finish things you can easily be canned. MOST people who believe in a product also work tireless hours...because their name is on it and they don't want their reputation tarnished.

I would like to see all ye flamers who haven't had the fortunate experience to work in a similar situation.

I've been there...when you work 7 days a week, don't leave the office, forget to eat, spread out a couple chairs in the office to make a makeshift bed, look at your paycheck since it's salaried and you really only got paid for 8 hours of work but did 20 and you worked your weekend away instead of going out to enjoy it. I don't know but I did the math once when I was in software development I made a whole $3 an hour USA...and I'm from the US...and then I had to do the very thing I dreaded most.

What is this dreaded thing? Reading the forums and instead of hearing constructive feedback wade through all the flamers who kill any excitement or energy I had to do anything or desire to continue to want to do anything for said 'idiots' yup I'm calling you the 'flamer' an idiot!

I don't know much about the Japanese work environment. But what I do know is that many Japanese work on the basis of HONOR. They are prideful to be part of the company they work for and their undertakings...they don't want to dishonor their work family. So they'll work their heart out if it kills them.

I'll say one thing...certain cultures are lazier then others and certain peoples are lazy. Certain people work their tails off never assuming or asking for credit. They just feel obligated to do so just because they signed up for the course and they understand. Then there are others that ride along and pretend like they do something...but all they do is suck. And then the people that work hard get enough of the BS and move to greener pastures. Where might you fit in?

A thankless job, feeling used, working endlessly...and nothing much to show for it. There's a reason why many people who enter this industry leave it after a short period of time. Life is too short...

Well said my friend... Well said

The short stick of it is simply this...Do you go to a sports event and yell at your team LOSE LOSE LOSE? Or do you cheer them on to victory? I'd like to see the morale of the team win with a defeated attitude. Ye flamers are haters and will never love the game so go cheer your other so amazing games on and leave us be. We'd rather cheer.

Please don't bunch developers/designers/producers in with the corporate portion. If you want to lay insults lay it at the people who pushed the product out too early. I can almost tell you just by experience it's not the people who REALLY made the product.

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Originally Posted by Blarp

Like I said, I don't think it's necessary to thank people for doing a job that they're being paid for. They're professionals. They don't need a gold star for doing a good job. Do you go to work and hope your boss thanks you for doing the job he pays you for?

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Actually I do enjoy it when my boss says thank you for working hard, as I am a hard worker. The Nazi regime ended with the downfall of Hilter...we say thank you to people we appreciate good sir regardless if they make millions or make none doing what they do.

Do you say thank you to our troops? Even though the job isn't finished EVER! Gosh some peoples logic nowadays... /sigh

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Do you say thank you to our troops? Even though the job isn't finished EVER! Gosh some peoples logic nowadays... /sigh

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The troops..... aren't trying to fix wars that they caused. This analogy is awful.

Thank you! Despite my concerns about some changes that are coming I really appreciate all the hard work being done by the development team and the community reps. I know you guys are working really hard and giving it your utmost.

He was merely trying to state its in good human nature to want to thank someone for hard work, the devs are HARD AT WORK with basically rewriting this game and in doing so deserve a thank you, yes they get paid (we aren't $%#@ing idiots) but 'thank you's are always appreciated and do more than just serve as a way of thanks, it really does help boost morale (if you are unaffected by them well then you might not have a heart or you have no care in the world). We are human let us be human.

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Originally Posted by Travesty

The troops..... aren't trying to fix wars that they caused. This analogy is awful.

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No, but the troops are following orders, as is the dev team.

You already showed us you're not thankful. How about letting the ones that FEEL thankful show it in their way and go your own way.

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Originally Posted by Thainna

No, but the troops are following orders, as is the dev team.

You already showed us you're not thankful. How about letting the ones that FEEL thankful show it in their way and go your own way.

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I'm sure the dev team is following some orders from management, but they're the people designing the game, and they're the main reason it's flawed. They're also the main reason it may one day be brought back to the point we were originally told it would be, which is when I will be especially thankful.

im grateful i only spent $25.00 and no $60.00, and im glad they didn't trash the game and make me lose all my $25.00 that i spent. However they are only doing all this so they can charge us money monthly so i don't think thanks are in order, but that's my opinion.

edit: i don't write letters to any other game company's when they work hard on games either if that makes any difference.