Mecrofeeding: The Way to Chocobo Color Dyeing

Gimp documentation claims that their colour picker can pick colour average of an area.

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Originally Posted by Adler

I tried out the ffxivchocobo.com yesterday to get my chocobo to soot black - in result got him nophica green which now requires exactly same type and amount of fruits to get to soot black as before shown in calculator.

Conclusion - with choco feed calculator you just waste more fruit to get another random colour.

Did you split the fruit that reached border values like it was advised?

I finally got the color I wanted with the help of these hints. But now I have a different problem: the snow white isn't white enough for me lol. I had bone white before and now it is snow white but both have lots of grey in it..isn't there a real white color, only white? I so hoped for a rocking combination of a plain white Choccobo in a WHM barding. Now my birdie looks somehow dirty haha.

Been trying to wrap my head around the whole coloring process for the last week. After a small misunderstanding I landed on Snow White.

So I've been working my way down from there. Figured that with Apples and Berries I'd be able to lower green value a lot, while maintaining a decently high Red/blue to play around and get purple colors.
I always stop at the first feathers, so I can see what's going on. So I don't really know how much I've shoved down his throat.. but it's usually 1-4 snacks for a New Feathers.
This is the process from Snow White.
Berry - Ice Blue
Berry - Celeste Green
Apple - Don't actually recall what this step was. Since I fed him almost immediately. However I believe it was a step back to Ice Blue. Since this is when i started to go "wtf!" a lot. hehe
Apple - Ash Grey
Apple - Gobbiebag Brown
Berry - Waiting..

Been trying to wrap my head around what's been happening.
From the RGB values of these colors it would seem that Berries have lowered Red drastically and Apple has lowered Blue drastically.. yet neither has hardly touched Green.
Which is weird, because it should've done the opposite. Green should've been drained like a lizard. While the others should've balanced each other out.

Does this mean that the feeding process favors green? or have I just been really unlucky with RNGs being high red/blue and low greens with 5 feedings in a row?

There's also the weird step of Ice Blue to Celeste Green. Where the blue value dropped using a Berries.. which should've increased it.

I dont really have a color goal. Mostly just trying to get some control and possibly get into the darker hues.

Simple questions incoming:

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Originally Posted by AttacKat

C. Using the new spreadsheet copy, select your Starting color, and Target color, and input the recommended feed fruit and amount from step A. EG: pear 17, apple 19, berry 28

Where do I input this? Quantity column C? The spreadsheet gave me a list of dozens of fruit compared to the ten total from the calculator. I put 1s and 2s into the fruit already listed and zeroed out the ones I didn't need; how do I remove the zeroed out lines without removing the instructions? Does this matter?

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Originally Posted by AttacKat

D. Check if any of the RGB values is 0 or 255.

Where do I check this? Each fruit's line or down at "to target"?

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Originally Posted by AttacKat

F. Repeat from step D for the next fruit until the "Current Guess" is the Target color and you have used up as many fruits as recommended. During this adjustment phase you will want to keep the To Target values for all three RGB within +/- 5. EG: step 2: apple 19 into step 2: apple 3, step 5: apple 16

The total fruits recommended by the Calculator? Keep the "to target" values within +/- 5 of which other numbers?

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Originally Posted by AttacKat

** There may be times when you will need to rearrange the fruit feeding order. EG: berry must be fed first.

How do you know when to do this?

Thanks for pulling all this together! :o

btw, anyone else having trouble opening the spreadsheet?

eta: Oh, what about the feathers message? In the case of going from Celeste Green to Corpse Blue, I don't need many fruit. Numbers this low, in my experience, may mean I'll never see the feathers proc.

9/9: Using GIMP tool to re-spec the RGB color values, the GIMP based value will be the average value of 7x7 pixels instead of the one pixel of the old 8th scale method. Therefore, it will also be further refined and rounded to the nearest 4th scale. (0, 3, 7, 11, 15 ... 255)

Will post updated RGB spreadsheet when I am done later today.

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Originally Posted by Sadana

Simple questions incoming:

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btw, anyone else having trouble opening the spreadsheet?

The spreadsheet is made available as read only to avoid web traffic congestion, hence step B, make a copy (aka new web page link). From step C on, you will be working using your own copy.

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Where do I input this? Quantity column C? The spreadsheet gave me a list of dozens of fruit compared to the ten total from the calculator. I put 1s and 2s into the fruit already listed and zeroed out the ones I didn't need; how do I remove the zeroed out lines without removing the instructions? Does this matter?

Col B and C, where B you type in the fruits you need, using the fruits listed in "key". You can delete all the other data in col B and C.

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Where do I check this? Each fruit's line or down at "to target"?

Each step line.

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Keep the "to target" values within +/- 5 of which other numbers?

To itself. In other words, if you see a -7 or 12, that means the -7 or 12 may still be further refined. It may not be possible all the time, but you want all three values to be under <5 when possible.

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How do you know when to do this?

Look at your RGB value, are any of them hitting 0 or 255? If your current RGB is 119, 119, 39, are you going to be able to feed it 20 apples first and reduce from the 39 B? No, because 20 apples reduces B by -100, therefore your are hitting the 0 wall, causing an error of 61 B in your result. Therefore, before you can feed it 20 apples, you must feed another fruit first from your calculated result to bring the B >= 61.

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Thanks for pulling all this together! :o

Your are welcome. I am glad this see this seems to be working and we are heading down the right track. Credit also goes to all the others that have done a lot of prior research/input, worked or not, or else I wouldn't have researched down this path.

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Numbers this low, in my experience, may mean I'll never see the feathers proc.

Can throw that all out of the window. We are working in a very different format now compared to the old one fruit one proc method. There has been many cases of feeding 1 unit of fruit and get a feather proc right away. I myself did the soot black feeding 71 fruits in 1 session, and gotten feather procs on 69 fruits in a row.

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Originally Posted by Syrehn

There have been several players mentioning that you can obtain Snow White from Desert Yellow using only something like 12+ plums. I don't remember the exact thread/page it was posted in however. :/

You can get Snow White from Desert Yellow by feeding Plums until the feather proc, wait 6 hrs, feed again until proc and voila (how my friend and I did it), so it's safe to assume you could just do it in one feeding of Plums with two feather prcos? Don't think we used more than 10 Plums altogether, though we both fed slightly different amounts to get the procs.

I dunno why people/calculators have been saying to use so many different fruit.

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Originally Posted by AttacKat

Therefore, we need to modify the feeding so all the values adjustment are within the RGB value limit for each unit of fruit eaten,

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pear 6 193 213 57 apple 5 218 188 32 berry 10 168 138 82 pear 6 138 168 52 apple 5 163 143 27 berry 10 113 93 77 pear 6 83 123 47 apple 5 108 98 22 berry 9 63 53 67 apple 6 93 23 37 Current 93 23 37 To Target 2 8 10 Current Guess Rolanberry Red

Has anyone tried this? I'm on my second try to get my chocobo to Rolanberry Red and if I don't get it this time I don't know what to do. Growing/buying fruit is getting to be a might expensive.

I apologize, I am completely new to chocobo dyeing and have been trying to get my bird and my fiance's to Soot Black and Colibiri Pink respectively, I've often thought something like the theory you proposed was correct. That people were over shooting or hitting a limit on the RGB scales with mass feeding.

I just want to make sure I understand this correctly so I don't mess up since I have only a small housing plot to work with so feed takes a long time to grow. You list each step as a single feeding, correct? IE step 1 feed X amount of berries, wait 6 hours for change, step 2 feed X amount of pears. Or are you doing this all in one feeding only splitting up the fruits. IE. Feed X pears, feed Y berries, Z apples, then wait out the 6 hour change period?

Thank you in advance, AttacKat. So far I've found your research very helpful and will be looking forward to more of your work.

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Originally Posted by TomTom1968

I finally got the color I wanted with the help of these hints. But now I have a different problem: the snow white isn't white enough for me lol. I had bone white before and now it is snow white but both have lots of grey in it..isn't there a real white color, only white? I so hoped for a rocking combination of a plain white Choccobo in a WHM barding. Now my birdie looks somehow dirty haha.

I got Snow White and thought the same thing, he just looked dirty. You might try Ice Blue. It's not really a blue, and IMO is nicer than the White. One of our FC mates has it and it's really stunning. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by FriendlyUncle

You list each step as a single feeding, correct? IE step 1 feed X amount of berries, wait 6 hours for change, step 2 feed X amount of pears. Or are you doing this all in one feeding only splitting up the fruits. IE. Feed X pears, feed Y berries, Z apples, then wait out the 6 hour change period?

All fruits fed in one 6 hr session.

We can do this because we know our start and target values, hence able to calculate the fruits we need. The feed is broken down into steps so we can keep the RGB values within 0~255.

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Originally Posted by FriendlyUncle

I just want to make sure I understand this correctly so I don't mess up since I have only a small housing plot to work with so feed takes a long time to grow. You list each step as a single feeding, correct? IE step 1 feed X amount of berries, wait 6 hours for change, step 2 feed X amount of pears. Or are you doing this all in one feeding only splitting up the fruits. IE. Feed X pears, feed Y berries, Z apples, then wait out the 6 hour change period?

Second version, ie you keep switching fruit as calculated till you feed everything and then wait 6 hours.

Using the calculator and AttacKat's suggestion of how to break it down, I was trying to go from Celeste Green to Lotus Pink. I didn't get there. I hit Snow White instead and I'm not sure why.

Feeding Screenshots Celeste to Snow:
http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...db9b752663.jpg

http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...cda18f9233.png

From Snow White to Lotus Pink, 1 Pineapple, 1 Plum, 6 Valfruit. This is how I broke it down to avoid hitting the R/B wall:

http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...7709501816.png

Finally!
http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...d8ad759d6f.png

The calculator wasn't dead on, nor was AttacKat's suggestion. Nothing seems to be a shoo-in yet, but this method makes sense to me.

HE'S BLACK! MY GALLUS IS BLACK, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! I must have wasted literally more than a million gil on this BUT HE'S BLACK. AttacKat, I could kiss you! The Deepwood Green > Soot Black route, stopping at the @ worked. He's all pretty and black and matches his Sleipnir barding perfectly. I can finally yank him out of that stable where he's been sitting on his ever-widening feathery ass, knocking food - and therefore, my gil - down his gullet and get him some exercise. Ta, 'yall, I'll be riding around Eorzea showing off my big black cock!

(Also, I lol'd at "Dingbat." That's hilarious, I love it.)

NOTE 9/9: Used GIMP tool and re-spec the RGB color values, the GIMP averages the value of 7x7 pixels sample space; therefore, it is also further refined and rounded to the nearest 4th scale. (0, 3, 7, 11, 15 ... 255)

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Originally Posted by PuhnTang

The calculator wasn't dead on, nor was AttacKat's suggestion. Nothing seems to be a shoo-in yet, but this method makes sense to me.

And I don't know if we ever will be. But at least now we have a tool that can get everyone into a general range at first feed, and then fine tune from there.

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Originally Posted by reivaxe

Well, I did as you suggested and just gave her 1 apple, 1 pear and 1 berry in that order expecting to get K brown again. ... Checked up on her and Soot Black O_o.
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lol, thanks ... tho I got there a step ahead I guess!!! :P

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Originally Posted by Fliss

HE'S BLACK! MY GALLUS IS BLACK, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! I must have wasted literally more than a million gil on this BUT HE'S BLACK. ... The Deepwood Green > Soot Black route, stopping at the @ worked. He's all pretty and black and matches his Sleipnir barding perfectly.

Congrads ... So I think we can finally say this microfeeding is getting everyone moving at the right direction. Both Reivaxe's and your case here is especially helpful as it proves that we can be off a little, so minor adjustments are still needed. But at least now we know what the deal is when it comes to these color traps. However small the error may be, even if it was just 1, might have been the cause that made it become 1 fruit too many and tips into the next color scale.

BTW, yeah, this can be a costly endeavor. Lucky for me I have my own plot that I can grow fruits on to do all these experiments. But even so, after a few hundred fruits, say 2-5K each, plus easy 80-160K on dirt per crop, I see how it can run up the tap pretty quickly.

Okay so I'm deciding to go for Abyssal Blue or Gloom Purple.

http://goingsony.com/system/file_upl...8cd9900d7.jpeg
I'm considering starting at the blue path, (starting at either Cork Brown or Ul Brown) but according to the chart above the red path (beginning at Millicorn Yellow) seem shorter.

I want to know how to use this method to get to Abyssal Blue or Gloom Purple for both paths

kobold brown>deepwood green>kobold brown

Using the feed orders found in the topic. It just won't give me soot black.

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Originally Posted by PuhnTang

I got Snow White and thought the same thing, he just looked dirty. You might try Ice Blue. It's not really a blue, and IMO is nicer than the White. One of our FC mates has it and it's really stunning. Good luck!

Will try that next, thanks for the recommendation.

Just a heads up, I followed the directions for ink blue to soot black, and the path took me to deepwood green, then ended up at chesnut brown.

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

Okay so I'm deciding to go for Abyssal Blue or Gloom Purple.

I'm considering starting at the blue path, (starting at either Cork Brown or Ul Brown) but according to the chart above the red path (beginning at Millicorn Yellow) seem shorter.

I want to know how to use this method to get to Abyssal Blue or Gloom Purple for both paths

Instructions on how to apply the mecrofeeding method is located right after the OP.

The microfeeding method does not rely the color map because that map is based on single fruit / one proc feeding method. Mecorfeeding method allows you to feed the full amount at one session and can get to the desired color, or at worst case within the color range and requires further fine tuning.

Using the color map, the red path seems shorter because it takes less feather procs, but it is more expensive (fruit wise) because it takes a lot more apples then the blue path with berries (more expensive time wise). That sort of information isn't included in the color map.

With microfeeding, it recommends the lowest amount of fruits based the RGB value calculations.

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Originally Posted by Anatha

kobold brown>deepwood green>kobold brown

Using the feed orders found in the topic. It just won't give me soot black.

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Originally Posted by KaozMarquis

Just a heads up, I followed the directions for ink blue to soot black, and the path took me to deepwood green, then ended up at chesnut brown.

Just updated the FAQ section, refer to the question on color looping.

With Morbol Green being the goal, my chocobo has been in a color loop between [Cactuar Green > Turquoise Green > Peacock Blue > Storm Blue > Orthard Blue] for weeks now (single proc feeds only). Although most of the loop has been going back and forth between Cactuar Green and Turquoise Green.

I decided that attempting this method couldn't hurt and at the very least, like OP said, I "would end up with a color somewhere within my range and would just need to fine tune". Didn't sound like a bad deal, at least I would have a NEW color and be outside of my color loop.

I took the results from the calculator and heavily heeded this guide's warning to mix the fruits so as to not max out rgb values. From Cactuar Green it said to feed 6 pears, 5 apples, and 13 berries. Since there were so many berries to feed I didn't want it to max out blue so I feed 1x pear, 1x berry, 1x apple, 1x berry, 1x pear, 1x berry, etc till I was out.

Waited 6 hours, Turquoise Green. Thanks. I could have gotten that with 1 Berry. Thanks, really.

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Originally Posted by Coconut

With Morbol Green ... loop has been going back and forth between Cactuar Green and Turquoise Green.

So, we know that Turquoise Green (71, 119, 119), Cactuar Green (103, 135, 67), Morbol Green (35, 71, 71)

The feeding was supposed to have dropped you into the Morbol Green zone, but I guess due to the lack of exact values and math, we didn't get close enough. But interestingly enough the difference are almost 2x of the desired color value. All I can say ATM is, no idea what SE did there.

But to assist you further, from Turquoise Green (71, 119, 119) to Morbol Green (35, 71, 71),

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Step Feed Qty 71 119 119 1 apple 7 106 84 84 2 pear 6 76 114 54 3@ berry 6 46 84 84 4 apple 3 61 69 69 5 pear 3 46 84 54 6 berry 3 31 69 69 To Target 4 2 2

Applying microfeeding, I suggest you feed all the fruits to step 3, and I would stop right after feeding the 6 apples. Reason here is the last apple takes you into the Morbol Green range, and the addition 3 apples, pears, berries, are there to fine tune you to (35, 71, 71). GL.

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Originally Posted by AttacKat

Applying microfeeding, I suggest you feed all the fruits to step 3, and I would stop right after feeding the 6 apples. Reason here is the last apple takes you into the Morbol Green range, and the addition 3 apples, pears, berries, are there to fine tune you to (35, 71, 71). GL.

Thanks for the reply, I'm willing to give it another shot, but did you mean stop after the 6 berries rather than apples? Or did you really mean stop after the 7 apples wait 6 hours then continue with 6 pears + berries wait another 6 and then carry on with fine tuning with the 3 sets of 3 fruits?

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Originally Posted by Coconut

Thanks for the reply, I'm willing to give it another shot, but did you mean stop after the 6 berries rather than apples? Or did you really mean stop after the 7 apples wait 6 hours then continue with 6 pears + berries wait another 6 and then carry on with fine tuning with the 3 sets of 3 fruits?

Yeah, sorry, 6 berries, the step with the @ sign. So, feed everything as instructed in the first 3 steps, then wait 6 hrs for the color change.

When I do the microfeeding breakdown, I like to make sure the last few fruits are just there to fine tune the color closer to the RGB value of the desired color. The @ step is where the feeding takes you from the mid point of current color, passing any other color in between, into your desired color. So it is the starting mid point to the edge of the ending color. It may sound strange, but this also allows for the maximum error if we do happen to overshoot the color.

Still wondering how to egt to Abyssal blue with microfeeding

According to the calc I'll need 14 Apples, 17 Pears and 31 Berries and the RGB value for Abyss Blue is 43, 39, 80

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

Still wondering how to egt to Abyssal blue with microfeeding

According to the calc I'll need 14 Apples, 17 Pears and 31 Berries

Starting Colour -> Desert Yellow

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Step Feed Qty 223 183 91 1 berry 15 148 108 166 2 pear 10 98 158 116 3 apple 10 148 108 66 4 berry 10 98 58 116 5 pear 5 73 83 91 6@ apple 4 93 63 71 7 berry 3 78 48 86 8 pear 2 68 58 76 9 berry 3 53 43 91 To Target 2 4 0

You will be at the edge Avyssal Blue zone by the time you finish step 6, but keep feeding to fine tune to the mid point.

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Originally Posted by AttacKat

Starting Colour -> Desert Yellow

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Step Feed Qty 223 183 91 1 berry 15 148 108 166 2 pear 10 98 158 116 3 apple 10 148 108 66 4 berry 10 98 58 116 5 pear 5 73 83 91 6@ apple 4 93 63 71 7 berry 3 78 48 86 8 pear 2 68 58 76 9 berry 3 53 43 91 To Target 2 4 0

You will be at the edge Avyssal Blue zone by the time you finish step 6, but keep feeding to fine tune to the mid point.

Okay thanks :)

Trying to help a free company mate get to Soot Black. He started at Celeste Green and after using the calculator and breaking up the fruis we ended up at Moss Green. The calculator now suggests using 7 pears 7 apples and 14 berries what is the best way to split this up?

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Originally Posted by AttacKat

Yeah, sorry, 6 berries, the step with the @ sign. So, feed everything as instructed in the first 3 steps, then wait 6 hrs for the color change.

When I do the microfeeding breakdown, I like to make sure the last few fruits are just there to fine tune the color closer to the RGB value of the desired color. The @ step is where the feeding takes you from the mid point of current color, passing any other color in between, into your desired color. So it is the starting mid point to the edge of the ending color. It may sound strange, but this also allows for the maximum error if we do happen to overshoot the color.

Done the first step of feeding, ty for the clarification, will post w/results in 6hrs!

Still confused, there's only one feed suggested from Kobold Brown to Soot Black, and just two from Deepwood to Soot Black.

If both of those overshoot Soot Black, how am I supposed to reach it?

I mentioned that I was using the recommended feeding patterns already, what am I supposed to do?

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Originally Posted by AttacKat

Yeah, sorry, 6 berries, the step with the @ sign. So, feed everything as instructed in the first 3 steps, then wait 6 hrs for the color change.

When I do the microfeeding breakdown, I like to make sure the last few fruits are just there to fine tune the color closer to the RGB value of the desired color. The @ step is where the feeding takes you from the mid point of current color, passing any other color in between, into your desired color. So it is the starting mid point to the edge of the ending color. It may sound strange, but this also allows for the maximum error if we do happen to overshoot the color.

New Color!! Ochu Green, feeding the remainder and keeping my fingers crossed :)

Edit: I fed the 3 apples/pears/berries in the last step but did not get a feather proc message... does this matter?

Edit2: I was pretty sure no feather proc=no color change. Rather than potentially wasting 6 hours I fed him an extra berry and got the feather proc message. We shall see.

I tried the calculator and it directed me to feed 28 fruits...8b/10p/10a to get from raptor blue to orthard blue...instead, I feed two berries and gotten orthard blue...happy I got my color but sad what the thing had suggested :T

I believe, the calculator is pretty good for long distance calculations, but it is better to use single proc method for close colours.

Can I seriously get some help on escaping this Kobold Brown>Deepwood Green>Kobold Brown loop?

I'm not making any headway, I'm using the feeds recommended. I feed, get a single plume change, stop. It gives me Kobold Brown or Deepwood Green, depending on whether I'm Green or Brown at the time.

I'm circling the goal and I must be so damn close that I'm overshooting no matter what.

I've looped three times already, I'm getting super discouraged. Please help.

From the chart, should be pears > plums...2-1 usually...just do two seperate feedings just in case...hope this works for ya

And that's from k. Brown > s. Black

Ochu > Hunter Green! I fed it 3 more berries for a single feather proc, heres hoping this is the end of the line!

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Originally Posted by AttacKat

Starting Colour -> Desert Yellow

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Step Feed Qty 223 183 91 1 berry 15 148 108 166 2 pear 10 98 158 116 3 apple 10 148 108 66 4 berry 10 98 58 116 5 pear 5 73 83 91 6@ apple 4 93 63 71 7 berry 3 78 48 86 8 pear 2 68 58 76 9 berry 3 53 43 91 To Target 2 4 0

You will be at the edge Avyssal Blue zone by the time you finish step 6, but keep feeding to fine tune to the mid point.

Okay I fed by chocobo the fruits as listed and in the listed portions, and the RNG has got me...

http://i.imgur.com/V00vuEq.jpg

Grape Purple! Of course I like Purple as much as blue so It's not a total loss.

On the other hand, I fed the chocobo the fruits one at a time (there was no mass feeding option) so that might have been a factor. Anyway that list might probably needs sometweaking for other people looking for Abyssal Blue

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Originally Posted by Anatha

Still confused, there's only one feed suggested from Kobold Brown to Soot Black, and just two from Deepwood to Soot Black.

If both of those overshoot Soot Black, how am I supposed to reach it?

I mentioned that I was using the recommended feeding patterns already, what am I supposed to do?

If we go by the R value, the color order is Deepwood Green (31, 47, 39) -> Soot Black (47, 43, 39) -> Kobold Brown (51, 35, 31), so it isn't likely for you to go from DG to KB unless you overfeed. The feeding suggestions I have listed attempts to get you as close to the middle as possible with < +/- 5 for each of the RGB values whenever we can, which is generally okay for most of the colors. But a few colors are right next to each other, hence at times we end up having to deal with overfeeding issue. The @ step is an attempt to stop you at as soon as you move into the color range and hence prevents the overfeeding.

In this case, there is nothing you can do to prevent overfeeding coming from KB if you have that issue, but you can coming from DG.

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Originally Posted by Coconut

Edit: I fed the 3 apples/pears/berries in the last step but did not get a feather proc message... does this matter?

Edit2: I was pretty sure no feather proc=no color change. Rather than potentially wasting 6 hours I fed him an extra berry and got the feather proc message. We shall see.

Yes, you did exactly what you are suppose to do. When trying to get out of color traps, you feed to the @ step, or the 1st feather proc, which ever is later. You will get a new color due to that extra berry.

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Originally Posted by BGE

I tried the calculator and it directed me to feed 28 fruits...8b/10p/10a to get from raptor blue to orthard blue...instead, I feed two berries and gotten orthard blue...happy I got my color but sad what the thing had suggested :T

There are some single fruit feed paths that uses much less fruit then the calculator method. That is SE's program logic that we do not have, therefore, problematic areas that we cannot avoid.

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

[B][COLOR=indigo]Grape Purple ... Anyway that list might probably needs sometweaking for other people looking for Abyssal Blue

Grape Purple (63, 47, 63) -> Abyssal Blue(55, 47, 91), To Target(-23, 5, 23)
Not dead on, but you are darn close. :p

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Step Feed Qty 63 47 63 1 berry 1 58 42 68 2 valfruit 2 68 32 78 3@ plum 1 63 37 83 4 plum 2 53 47 93

After feeding the 1st plum you should be into the AB zone.

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Originally Posted by Anatha

Now I don't know what to do. I'm just seriously confused, how do I get to Soot Black from Deepwood Green, it did not work the last two times I went through the loop, following the directions to the letter.

Try reversing the order, 2 valfruit, which should get you proc on 2nd, then 1 pineapple if you don't get proc.

Ok well last time I was at DG, I fed it exactly as specified in the order you dictated, stopping at the @/first proc whichever is latest.

The first proc occured at the @ and I stopped there. 6 hours later, Kobold Brown.

I fed it as dictated again, back to DG.

Now I don't know what to do. I'm just seriously confused, how do I get to Soot Black from Deepwood Green, it did not work the last two times I went through the loop, following the directions to the letter.