Yo Yosh, Can you please disable the ability to teleport?

I do believe it's too late to limit the teleporting now.

I wish the only Aetherytes were in the main hubs: Gridania, Limsa Lominsa, Ul'dah, Ishgard, Revenant's Toll. To get anywhere else you'd have to run from the cities to get there. It would make the less-traveled zones feel a bit more alive and therefor the game world more alive as a whole. But alas, far too late.

I don't think we need a separate currency for it. I am a bit surprised it doesn't have a cooldown, though. It seems a little backward that Return (which already has the 1 location limitation) has a cooldown, whereas Teleport doesn't. The other way around would make more sense.

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Originally Posted by Issac

Yes, actually. We are devastating the environment.

Bad analogy.

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You think the manner in which the power you're using to post comments on this board and play this game was produced is good for the environment. Get over yourself.

As to the topic, please, stop trying to force what you want on everyone else. What if I said I think it should take 4 hours to travel from one city to another? Is my opinion any less valid than yours? No, because it's an opinion. You wouldn't want to be forced into 4 hours of running though just because I want it to take that long. I don't know about you, but I like choices. Soon someone will say it's not realistic that our characters don't ever have to eat, it breaks the immersion. I want my character (and of course everyone else should play how I do) to enjoy all the wonderful foods in the game. Then someone will decide if they're eating they must have to go to the bathroom or we're breaking immersion. Next thing you know we're playing The Sims.

Is the above a likely scenario? No. You know why? Because developers get really try to give people choices and not force all of them to play the way some want to play. In some instances it has to be one way or the other and in some cases usually the majority wins. In the case of traveling this game offers us a choice, several in fact.

I like teleports, but I don't try to force them on you, why do you want to force running around without them on me?

I'm a working class, married, with kids kind of guy and only a limited amount of time to play. Running from here to there delivering salad is not what I am looking to do with my time. Dont get me wrong, I love exploring and running around helping others level, but sometimes u gotta fly. Having the option is great, but if you don't like it don't use it.

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Originally Posted by Riepah

Teleporting is perfectly fine. If you'd prefer to go everywhere on foot, nobody's keeping you from doing so. I'd rather not be forced to spend a big chunk of my playtime just walking from A to B, thank you very much.

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Does anyone care for immersion anymore?

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Originally Posted by Rex

Does anyone care for immersion anymore?

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Yes, people still care about immersion. However, those people are not everyone.

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Originally Posted by Rex

Does anyone care for immersion anymore?

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Yes, but there is a fine line between "Immersion" and "Tedium"

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Originally Posted by Rex

Does anyone care for immersion anymore?

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I do, a lot actually, and part of that immersion is accepting that in Eorzea teleportation is a thing, but not everyone can use it because not everyone is strong enough to go through the aether plane.

Accepting game mechanics that have an in-game explanation and enjoying them is immersion, trying to make the game work like the real world isn't.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

Yes, people still care about immersion. However, those people are not everyone.

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This too.

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Originally Posted by ErBear

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In regards to your whole argument about teleports. This is only 2.0.... I recall Yoshi-P saying @ E3 that 3.0 would make the world nearly double, and who knows who big it will become in 4.0. Patience young grasshopper :) We'll get to that 100 miles sooner than you think. Then you'll be begging for a swifter means of travel.

I think the OP is more referring to what consequences the ease of travel place on content in place, rather than what he would like to do (or see others do) personally. Difficulty in commute can have a lot of positive effects, even if not particularly well received. It would stimulate the economy, reduce RMT activity, encourage camping over exploitation... An open 'world' is less a world and more like a group of rooms that all connect to one another as it stands. And less immediate transport would undoubtedly do a lot to change that.

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Originally Posted by Codek

Is life to friendly when we drive around in cars?

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That..is not really a good response considering how much we're messing up this planet due to cars. Life wont be so friendly once we mess up this planet beyond repair lol

So you're saying because you don't like some aspect of the game you want it changed for everyone? Too bad, I like teleporting.

Don't use teleporting if you don't want to. I mainly use chocobo porters and airships, still get wherever I want...

As for hunts, just open world content... just don't make more lol. It's unplayable anyway.

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Originally Posted by elreed

Is not the same thing to have the option than being forced to something, why not give a teleport in a middle zone, like The Black Shroud having only the central shroud teleport point, you want to get to north shroud fast from uldah? Well you can get to central shroud and walk to the north shroud, you can get the idea for the rest of the zones, think of them as Teleport Holla, etc

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Another option:
1st: Teleport could only be useable at Aetherytes. You are in the Goblin mine and want to teleport somewhere? First ride out of the mine to the camp and click on the Aetheryte.
2nd: remove distance join from duty-finder. You are in the Sahagin Stronghold fishing and think you would want to do a round CT? Fine. First ride to Aleport, click on the Aetheryte, teleport to Mor Dhonna, ride to the Crystal Tower and click on the portal to join the queue.

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Originally Posted by Felis

2nd: remove distance join from duty-finder. You are in the Sahagin Stronghold fishing and think you would want to do a round CT? Fine. First ride to Aleport, click on the Aetheryte, teleport to Mor Dhonna, ride to the Crystal Tower and click on the portal to join the queue.

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Ew .

"Is this game too friendly with traveling?"

*gets hit 20 times in a row with heavy, each lasting 20 seconds*

...Well, game doesn't like us running around apparently with constant heavy everywhere...

I'll keep the teleports, thank you.

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Originally Posted by Asakura93

"Is this game too friendly with traveling?"

*gets hit 20 times in a row with heavy, each lasting 20 seconds*

...Well, game doesn't like us running around apparently with constant heavy everywhere...

I'll keep the teleports, thank you.

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Only if you ride and get hit in the back.


How I see it, the large of the world have nothing to do with teleport.
in 1.0 the world was bigger and still there were people who wanted teleport to be removed because traveling was too save with teleport.

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Originally Posted by Black91CRX

Would work wonders for the hunt system. Would force groups to camp zones individually and give everyone more time to get in on the action.

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So instead of a bunch of people waiting on 19 3 hour timers it'd be 19 groups of people waiting on individual 3 hour timers who then have to wait for the people from adjacent zones to come in before they pull?

I agree with Felis' idea, just being able to teleport from aetherite to aetherite would fit well for the size of the map, it only takes 22 minutes to cross the whole world while mounted (I chrono'ed it)

but asakura is also right, with all these annoying WEAK monsters that Heavy you no matter your level, it's plain annoying, they're not dangerous, just annoying.
unfortunately, it is far too late to change things now, maybe with the extension and the new map they can limit it a bit but i don't think people will like the change unless it is done really sneakily, bit by bit so people do notice the slow changes but do not mind.

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Originally Posted by Felis

2nd: remove distance join from duty-finder. You are in the Sahagin Stronghold fishing and think you would want to do a round CT? Fine. First ride to Aleport, click on the Aetheryte, teleport to Mor Dhonna, ride to the Crystal Tower and click on the portal to join the queue.

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That sounds like a great ide.....oh wait WoW did that back in Vanilla and everyone hated it and it's why Dungeon Finders exist as they do now....NEXT!


(as a Horde player, it's the main Reason I didn't run Gnomereggan for a loooong time)

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Originally Posted by Rex

Does anyone care for immersion anymore?

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I'm so immersed, I've gained the abilty to teleport, if I wanted to go for a walk I'd go outside.

Rokien still plays? O_o

...Um...well...er...grats on the interview! Good luck...
-Walks away surprised he's still around;
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No thanks!

What I hated about the game when I 1st started was how confusing the map/zones where. I had to constantly chech the map and hope I am heading toward the right zone.

Its better since I got some familiarity with the world, but its so much better to just teleport

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Originally Posted by ErBear

Hello, rokien here again, I hope everyone is doing great today. I'm doing ok, just had an interview yesterday, so I hope I get the job!

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Forgive me for ignoring the post, but I can't get past the narcissism of the opening line. There are a few others that post regularly on these forums who do the same thing,and it makes me cringe every time. If people care, they will know who you are by following your posts and recognizing your forum name.

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Originally Posted by Dannythm

I do, a lot actually, and part of that immersion is accepting that in Eorzea teleportation is a thing, but not everyone can use it because not everyone is strong enough to go through the aether plane.

Accepting game mechanics that have an in-game explanation and enjoying them is immersion, trying to make the game work like the real world isn't.



This too.

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I can also accept this Dannythm. However, it was the same exact case in 1.0. Except those of us who had the ability to travel through teleportation had a thing called "Anima" that needed to be recharged over time due to "fatigue" of teleporting this way. Now we just pay gil to endlessly teleport.

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Originally Posted by Pandastirfry

Yes, but there is a fine line between "Immersion" and "Tedium"

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Tedium? Isn't it part of an RPG to TRAVERSE these worlds? All the work the team put into these lands...all the detail in the remote places...and they're skipped 80% of the time because people just want to constantly teleport. This is literally why the sightseeing log was implemented. And yes, to each their own, but I just feel that I explored XI more than I do in XIV, even when I decide to walk. But what can you do.

Like I said, I think we should have just stuck with Anima. But this is an argument long past, and I don't entirely care to repeat it.

It depends on how much lifetime you have to waste and throw away.

I for one do not have the time to spend to walk through zones upon zones just to get somewhere.

This idea is so bad this must be a troll thread.

Remember when teleport was more expensive and people couldn't afford to go places?
Or when repairs were so expensive people couldn't afford to run dungeons?

FFXIV fixed those problems; no reason to bring them back.

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Originally Posted by Malamasala

It depends on how much lifetime you have to waste and throw away.

I for one do not have the time to spend to walk through zones upon zones just to get somewhere.

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because of the size of the map, your argument is invalid, it would take less than 8 minutes to go where ever you want if you could just teleport to the cities + revenant toll + dragon head

8 minutes is just nothing in a day

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Originally Posted by Phyllo

because of the size of the map, your argument is invalid, it would take less than 8 minutes to go where ever you want if you could just teleport to the cities + revenant toll + dragon head

8 minutes is just nothing in a day

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Eight minutes adds up, and it's eight minutes spent doing something that has no point vs something you actively want to be doing. Look, I'm all for immersion, but don't try to ruin other people's convenience.

I gave up on this ages ago, people seem to enjoy their line simulation games instead of adventure games.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

I gave up on this ages ago, people seem to enjoy their line simulation games instead of adventure games.

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Says the person playing said line simulation.

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Originally Posted by Eissels

Eight minutes adds up, and it's eight minutes spent doing something that has no point vs something you actively want to be doing. Look, I'm all for immersion, but don't try to ruin other people's convenience.

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i'm not especially for removing teleport, i said i liked the idea that someone had, that the game's a little bit too teleport friendly imo, but i also know that forcing stuff on people is not the best option, all i said is that her argument is not valid when this game is concerned, for another one i don't say but this one is too small for that.

that said, those eight minutes running are the same as when you do nothing while waiting for the DF/PF, It's a MMO we're talking about, there'll always be a time when you do nothing/waste time doing something you don't like.
for some it's traveling, others it's grinding etc... you can't please everyone, you just gotta pick your target.
there is no wrong nor right answers.

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Originally Posted by Worm

So instead of a bunch of people waiting on 19 3 hour timers it'd be 19 groups of people waiting on individual 3 hour timers who then have to wait for the people from adjacent zones to come in before they pull?

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That's the point. Forcing groups to split up so only people in the immediate area would be able to engage the mark in time. The whole dang server teleporting to a single zone is a huge problem at the moment.

Players with tight schedules for gathering logs, soil, seeds, rocks, etc. will hate this idea. Running from Horizons aethryte to Gd 3 thanalan soils node feels like forever already soooo NO.

Reason why removing teleport is stupid:

You don't actually have to use it.

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Originally Posted by ErBear

....What do you guys think, is this game too friendly with traveling?

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I think in all RPG, players will be enable to teleport to every main towns/citis,
in ARR, teleport even cost $, it was a little bit expansive previously.

Maybe you forget you need to explore the map, find the aetherytes and activate it for further teleport?
Maybe you have missed a lot of experience before you got lv50,
I explored the world when I was easily being killed by trash mob, it was very nice when I found an new aetheryte as a save point! ^^;

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Originally Posted by ErBear

Third reason, why did you even put airships in the game....

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Apparently "this function" is called as air-ships just bcoz it is FF. ^^;
Actually they can just turn the air-ship into a device for teleporting between 3 countries (in fact now it is),
At the moment I will suggest everyone just consider "air-ship" as an event of the main story quest (lv20?) ^^;

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Originally Posted by Nukocafe

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A thousand times.

So you believe teleporting makes the world feel small, because you instantly move between points, skipping everything in between. But does it matter how large or small the world is if there's nothing you need between point A and point B? You're implying that we should walk simply for the sake of burning off our time doing so, to no added value. We would accomplish nothing during the travel. We would gain nothing during the travel. We would see nothing new during the travel.

If you're in Ul'dah, and you get a quest that takes place in Upper La Noscea, of what value would be Western Thanalan, Limsa Lominsa, Middle La Noscea, and Eastern La Noscea? You've been through all of those zones more then enough times before. You've seen all of the sights, fought in all of the FATE's, and done all of the side quests in between. You know where the gathering points are, you've activated all of the Aetherytes and Chocobo Porters, and you've killed every type of monster across all of the maps.

So why?

You keep asking for a larger world, but the world only serves a purpose if it has a purpose 'at that present time'. Even if the world were dangerous, that would simply make the trip take more time where you're 'still' not accomplishing any sort of purpose. Even if the world were filled with all sorts of fantastic sights and interesting NPC's, you'd 'still' have seen all of them gods know how many times before.

Simply extending game life and play time by adding travel does not improve the game, it simply burns off the time that people have to play the game by instead making them spend more time getting from point A to point B then actually doing anything of merit.


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As a side note, I would be all for making the air ships and ferries take actual travel time, rather then being instant snaps between zones. We already have teleporting to take us anywhere and everywhere, let people use a more scenic option if they so choose.

Restrict my ability to teleport?

Yes if you give me an airship and allow me to fly the overworld like how it should be in FF7/FF8 etc.