Riding Chocobos in town?

As much as I like the idea of Chocobos walking around while I craft... I don't like the idea of blobs of choco-poop (lol) and feathers littering the streets.

They should keep to the stables and the race tracks while in city limits.

And to those hating on choco in the city for afk mounters. Rately happens and isn't THATA BIG OF A DEAL. Also in WoW mounts had limited abilities in the city, like you can't enter buildings. The mount outa dismounts you.

Honestly i'm not that bif of a WoW fan, but st least I do not make complaint "cuz its in WoW" your hate for this game is rather childish. It is a different video game. It didn't kill your mother, and the community isn't all that bad. Infact on the servers I'm on, no one bunny hops anymore if ever did. People only jump to get over an obstecle Just to get from point a to point b a little faster. Also our towns are infact bigger the the ones in WoW. Really get over your unfounded hate on a video game. Because it is ruining this one.

I think it was never done in FFXI to avoid city clutter, but I recall that in many story cutscenes you would see NPCs riding around towns on Chocobos.

Don't really care either way TBH. I just want a faster mode of transportation across the main areas.

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Originally Posted by Kam

SE is gona look at this from a practical stand point. Your and our opinions come last gift.

First off. Why do you need a chocobo in town?

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Now...im gonna use a...well the only reasonable refrence i can find....
If i had a "Rare" mount (lets say a Purple coblyn mount with a crazy look on...in his eyes) id love to show it off to the players inside the city ofc.

- But, well, we talking about chocobos, not very unique is it.
But thats the reason id like to ride my mount in a town.

Just like the multitude of players in Stormwind does (in WoW), hell ya im playing World of Warcraft
while waiting on FFXIV stuff, and im not ashamed of it either.

But...i can live withouth it, but not my coblyn mount "Brutus" !

People really so lazy they also want chocobos to carry them around in town too?

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

And to those hating on choco in the city for afk mounters. Rately happens and isn't THATA BIG OF A DEAL. Also in WoW mounts had limited abilities in the city, like you can't enter buildings. The mount outa dismounts you.

Honestly i'm not that bif of a WoW fan, but st least I do not make complaint "cuz its in WoW" your hate for this game is rather childish. It is a different video game. It didn't kill your mother, and the community isn't all that bad. Infact on the servers I'm on, no one bunny hops anymore if ever did. People only jump to get over an obstecle Just to get from point a to point b a little faster. Also our towns are infact bigger the the ones in WoW. Really get over your unfounded hate on a video game. Because it is ruining this one.

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I don't think one person mentioned WoW in this thread at all.
Except you, of course.

I don't understand the point of running around a city on a rented chocobo. Which is what we'll be getting first. It's bloated and unnecessary.

maybe wait until the whiners eventually get their golden rainbow sparkle-bo to desire such a feature.

Keep the chocobos and other mounts outside. First and most important reason being the crowding. Chocobos are huge in game if you havn't noticed. Imagine a bunch (or even just 3 or 4) of people mounted on chocobos all crowding around the guild leve counter or the repair npc or in doorways or standing on top of people trying to bazaar.

Second is lag and stuttering. Cities are already generally laggy enough due to the volume of people all in one spot. Now give all those people gigantic yellow birds to race around with and someone's graphics card is going to have a heart attack.

Third, and this is my opinion, but there really isn't a need for mounts inside cities at this point. The cities are large, but are laid out in a way to where you can get where you need to go quickly. To sum up, I would rather walk than deal with the lag and crowding.

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Originally Posted by Hubert

Keep the chocobos and other mounts outside. First and most important reason being the crowding. Chocobos are huge in game if you havn't noticed. Imagine a bunch (or even just 3 or 4) of people mounted on chocobos all crowding around the guild leve counter or the repair npc or in doorways or standing on top of people trying to bazaar.

Second is lag and stuttering. Cities are already generally laggy enough due to the volume of people all in one spot. Now give all those people gigantic yellow birds to race around with and someone's graphics card is going to have a heart attack.

Third, and this is my opinion, but there really isn't a need for mounts inside cities at this point. The cities are large, but are laid out in a way to where you can get where you need to go quickly. To sum up, I would rather walk than deal with the lag and crowding.

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Um, just make chocobos have a slow-run within the city and dont let them go inside buildings. It's illogical that they cannot run though the main thoroughfar though. What do you think it's there for?

You guys are too hung up on FFXI and all its rules.

I think I'd prefer it if chocobos were outside only, and I'm guessing that's the way it's going to work. I don't think it really makes a huge difference either way though.

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Originally Posted by giftforce

Um, just make chocobos have a slow-run within the city and dont let them go inside buildings. It's illogical that they cannot run though the main thoroughfar though. What do you think it's there for?

You guys are too hung up on FFXI and all its rules.

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A "slow-run" would defeat the purpose of having a mount and would do absolutely nothing to alleviate lag issues. Keeping mounts outside buildings would be good until you realize that there are quest NPCs and merchants who have stalls outside buildings. Maybe it's just me but I actually enjoy looking at the city and landscapes as I go and not just blindly charging from point A to point B. I'd rather not have to wade through a sea of chocobo arses every time I go into town. Honestly, the only place so far that would support chocobos inside the city is Uldah. Limsa has a lot of small ramps and walkways while Gridania has forest trails and cramped tunnels.

Lastly, I don't really see how FFXI has anything to do with anything I said.

FF XIV: The game where everyone wants more pointless restrictions because they are afraid of WoW and probably never played it.

I'll jump around everywhere I go in honour of you!

Oh god the lag.

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Originally Posted by Tiraelina

FF XIV: The game where everyone wants more pointless restrictions because they are afraid of WoW and probably never played it.

I'll jump around everywhere I go in honour of you!

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It's better than having pointless additions just for the sake of them.
The whole structure of the game is being changed within the next two updates. Unles Square has had the idea of the hulking hens pecking their way through the cities beforehand, It's unlikley they'll restructure it again for such a minor inclution with so little to offer.
They don't have to add every little thing that comes across our minds. Let them finifh the general restructure first, so we can then think about what spesifics would be a helpful adition to the actual gameplay.

All that asside, it seems odd to ride mounts and the like into cities that serve more as an end point rather than a point along a road. Not only that, but these cities really arn't that big. That coupled with the fact that they have one or two restrictive points of entry makes me think that this would be far more trouble than it's worth.

This would be a truly pointless addition for the sake of having it. They have to make it so mounts can't be in towns, not the other way around. This game isn't being redesigned around XI and every game that it's now taking hints from isn't restricting the players at every turn.

If they want to add those other "pointless" additions as you like calling them, more power to them! Do something in game design and making something enjoyable before writing them off because you don't like them.

w/e with the whole chocobo thing. I want my own personal airship that converts into a boat for sea travel. Now that would be bad ass.

1. You will be able to ride in a city.
2. You will have a 20-30 min max on a chocobo
3. You will not be able to interact with npc's or bazaar's whist riding chocobos.

4. If SE is smart, when you mount a chocobo other players will not be able to interact with your bazaar to prevent afk choocoboers.

#1-3 95% chance
#4 50/50

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Originally Posted by Gramul

It's better than having pointless additions just for the sake of them.
The whole structure of the game is being changed within the next two updates. Unles Square has had the idea of the hulking hens pecking their way through the cities beforehand, It's unlikley they'll restructure it again for such a minor inclution with so little to offer.
They don't have to add every little thing that comes across our minds. Let them finifh the general restructure first, so we can then think about what spesifics would be a helpful adition to the actual gameplay.

All that asside, it seems odd to ride mounts and the like into cities that serve more as an end point rather than a point along a road. Not only that, but these cities really arn't that big. That coupled with the fact that they have one or two restrictive points of entry makes me think that this would be far more trouble than it's worth.

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You're stuck in the past... Well actually, even Ultima Online (the first MMO) let you ride horses around town. You're just stuck in FFXI.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

Imo keep it like all final fantasy games and only to city limits, or atleast you can only go to chocobo stables on them.

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This. I would not mind this information at all.

If I see mounts in town I am going to strangle someone. That was the thing I despised most about playing WoW and I stated it many times. Seeing everyone on their stupid mounts hogging up the streets really annoyed me.

I don't care either way. I'm leaning more toward not allowing them, but I can see why people would like to see them in the cities. However, SE needs to figure out the right way to do it. No speaking to NPCs while on a chocobo, no entering buildings, and noone is able to check your bazaar while you're on your chocobo.

What I do have a problem with however is that it could be incredibly distracting/in the way. If I'm in the city trying to craft and someone lands their chocobo right over me and makes it so I can't see my crafting sphere anymore, that would be insanely annoying. Yes, I could always move, but it's something I shouldn't have to worry about while inside the city. Those are my only reservations about it though.

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Originally Posted by Kailok

I don't care either way. I'm leaning more toward not allowing them, but I can see why people would like to see them in the cities. However, SE needs to figure out the right way to do it. No speaking to NPCs while on a chocobo, no entering buildings, and noone is able to check your bazaar while you're on your chocobo.

What I do have a problem with however is that it could be incredibly distracting/in the way. If I'm in the city trying to craft and someone lands their chocobo right over me and makes it so I can't see my crafting sphere anymore, that would be insanely annoying. Yes, I could always move, but it's something I shouldn't have to worry about while inside the city. Those are my only reservations about it though.

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Well first you cried about collision detection, now you cry about no collision detection and get stood on by a chocobo.

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Originally Posted by giftforce

Well first you cried about collision detection, now you cry about no collision detection and get stood on by a chocobo.

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Show me ONE post about me crying about collision detection and I will call you a God. I don't stand for every person who cried about it so don't rope me in with everyone else unless you have proof of such.


If I took that the wrong way, then excuse me.

On topic: Sure, if they could add Collision Detection back into the game, great, it stops a chocobo from messing up my craft. If they did that, I wouldn't mind chocobo in the city because as I said, it is my only reservation from such a system other than crowding and lag, both of which have already been stated before me.

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Originally Posted by Kailok

Show me ONE post about me crying about collision detection and I will call you a God. I don't stand for every person who cried about it so don't rope me in with everyone else unless you have proof of such.


If I took that the wrong way, then excuse me.

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I was using 'you' as a collective noun for the general FFXIV forum-whiner, the ones who ushered in such memorable changes like enormous mobs and zero mob behaviour. Don't take it personally, kid.

I meant no offence.

Oh, and dare I mention another game around here, but for your guys' information ArcheAge and TERA both have collision detection and I dont see why FFXIV decided to remove it. It's a next-gen feature. Im sure it took the programmers a long time to implement, and I suggest they re-implement it, only this time make it 100% collision detection so that you can-not stand ON someone nor IN someone.

This would be a welcome relief when fighting large mobs (or should I say ENLARGEd mobs) like toads which are so often engulfing players who fight them.

It would also prevent a chocobo from standing on you in cities.

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Originally Posted by giftforce

I was using 'you' as a collective noun for the general FFXIV forum-whiner, the ones who ushered in such memorable changes like enormous mobs and zero mob behaviour. Don't take it personally, kid.

I meant no offence.

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I'm not taking anything personally, I just took it the way it was perceived so I defended myself. That'll happen during text conversations. I realized that it could have been used as a collective noun instead which is why I edited my post saying "excuse me" if you didn't mean anything.

Now, as you were saying, I get that a bunch of people bitched about collision. I, myself, like having collision. Walking through people simply doesn't give me any immersion like Collision does...unfortunately I think I saw one of the dev posts mentioning they have no intention of bringing it back. I can't for the life of me find it, though.

I think mounts in town are awesome

If there are ever SMALL pets of some kind, I'd like those to be allowed in the city limits... But mounts within the city?? No thanks! The place looks crowded enough as it is. People running around the vendor market on bulky mounts would be crazy!

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Originally Posted by giftforce

I was using 'you' as a collective noun for the general FFXIV forum-whiner, the ones who ushered in such memorable changes like enormous mobs and zero mob behaviour. Don't take it personally, kid.

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With the exception of one or two (such as skeletons), I vastly prefer the mob size increase.

In fact I think that's one of the subtle changes that for some reason made me continue playing this game up until now because before it was ridiculous. Half the creatures didn't feel like a threat at all and I could hardly see some of the enemies.

Not only do the enlarged enemies look better but they're obviously present and they actually seem like a threat.

I get the impression you haven't even played another FF game before because you've repeatedly complained about many posters using the excuse "Final Fantasy"-like. Hey, guess what, it's true. Last time I checked, this game is an FF game, being an MMO second. There's a few FF games that have deviated from the core elements of the franchise, where did those end up? Oh yeah, terrible ratings and terrible sales. Funny, XIV is in that category.

So, since the franchise has been raped so much with so many ridiculous deviations, and since this game is in trouble, it would only make sense to incorporate certain elements and maintain a core feel from the previous FF games. Not other MMOs. Wow, you might even get some non-MMO FF players to join the game. Wouldn't that be something? There's only several million of them.

Large fantasy-esque and sometimes outrageous enemies tend to be an element present throughout the FF series.

Take your scorn for the people who make such arguments and shove it up your backside.

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In what manor would chocobos help or hinder the imerssion within cities?

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in my opinion a mounts main purpose is not immersion but for transportation to get from point A to point B quicker than walking.
you guys are right though, i guess the cities arent that large, limsa and gridania just arent as convenient to traverse versus Uldah so thats what came into mind.
either way i dont think its that large of a deal. if we cant oh well, im just personally used to video games giving you more ways to travel than what weve seen in FFXI. alot of games give you things like racial "run faster for 6 seconds every 2 minutes" and things like that (which did not apply to your mount, youd have to get off it first to use your racial)

and so you know, i dont dissagree with mounts contributing to immersion. i feel things like their physical aesthetic, how you get them, and their direct correlation to the story are how they contribute to immersion.
now that i think about it, my internet isnt half bad but it gets terrible lag even though our population doesnt compete with any other MMO. i can see having 40 chocobos in town causing my PC to bog up even more....

So now we must limit our suggestions to what can be obtained with inferior-grade servers? Please.

The day we cave to those standards is the day SE thinks it's okay to keep ten-year old servers.

Well, I don't know if this answers the question... but why not create an inside version or something of the Chocobo Stables found in each city. They all usually have a blocked off door or something behind them.

Why not have the option, when you reach the entrance point that crosses into each city to be able to select Dismount or Enter Stables to interact with other players Chocobos, which would ALSO pave the way as a future area for breeding, raising, and feeding of Chocobos and other Chocobo raising players, similar to FF XI's stables.

I'm fine with chocobos in cities as long as it keeps you from going inside a building with them.

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Originally Posted by giftforce

You're stuck in the past... Well actually, even Ultima Online (the first MMO) let you ride horses around town. You're just stuck in FFXI.

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First of all, I'm not totally against the idea, and if it does happen I promise I won't get upset and whine about it.
That being said, the feature has no point. Having characters double their size to prance about the cities? That serves no purpose. Every city in the game is away from the roads, not a passage through it (save for LL but because it's by ship it doesn't really matter in this case) so having the Stork Stallions ride through them doesn't make much sense unless you where herding cattle or transporting large goods to somewhere at the back of the city. That's not very realistic or believable to me and if anything, it would hurt my immersion. I think just having stables near the city gates makes much more sense.

Now, I've played other MMO's that do let you ride into towns and cities, but they where either not as realisticly themed, the cities where the right size for mounts or otherwise, or they made sense in the context of the games' world. And they where all fine games. I just find it useless in this situation, unless they did add a good reason for you to move around town birdback.

Your idea of being "stuck in the past" is pretty shallow if it revolves around such useless features and gimmicks like that.
Not every little thing needs to be shiny and new. It's big features that make innovation matter, and they won't get innovation by miming features to a game that doesn't match their own structure.

If you're able to then that's okay. If not, who the f#*% cares, we're getting transportation. I also agree with the guy above me :)

Well, after reading the latest news from Yoshi-p, i think would be really possibile in town,

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3. Walking alongside a personal chocobo

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Originally Posted by Gramul

First of all, I'm not totally against the idea, and if it does happen I promise I won't get upset and whine about it.
That being said, the feature has no point. Having characters double their size to prance about the cities? That serves no purpose. Every city in the game is away from the roads, not a passage through it (save for LL but because it's by ship it doesn't really matter in this case) so having the Stork Stallions ride through them doesn't make much sense unless you where herding cattle or transporting large goods to somewhere at the back of the city. That's not very realistic or believable to me and if anything, it would hurt my immersion. I think just having stables near the city gates makes much more sense.

Now, I've played other MMO's that do let you ride into towns and cities, but they where either not as realisticly themed, the cities where the right size for mounts or otherwise, or they made sense in the context of the games' world. And they where all fine games. I just find it useless in this situation, unless they did add a good reason for you to move around town birdback.

Your idea of being "stuck in the past" is pretty shallow if it revolves around such useless features and gimmicks like that.
Not every little thing needs to be shiny and new. It's big features that make innovation matter, and they won't get innovation by miming features to a game that doesn't match their own structure.

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Screw you, being able to paint my Lalafell's nails any color I want is next gen and innovative.

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Originally Posted by Leonesaurus

Well, I don't know if this answers the question... but why not create an inside version or something of the Chocobo Stables found in each city. They all usually have a blocked off door or something behind them.

Why not have the option, when you reach the entrance point that crosses into each city to be able to select Dismount or Enter Stables to interact with other players Chocobos, which would ALSO pave the way as a future area for breeding, raising, and feeding of Chocobos and other Chocobo raising players, similar to FF XI's stables.

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Now that sounds interesting. I like it.

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Originally Posted by Leonesaurus

Well, I don't know if this answers the question... but why not create an inside version or something of the Chocobo Stables found in each city. They all usually have a blocked off door or something behind them.

Why not have the option, when you reach the entrance point that crosses into each city to be able to select Dismount or Enter Stables to interact with other players Chocobos, which would ALSO pave the way as a future area for breeding, raising, and feeding of Chocobos and other Chocobo raising players, similar to FF XI's stables.

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Or how about they just let you dismount and mount whenever you want instead of trying to control and funnel every aspect of your life.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

First of all, I'm not totally against the idea, and if it does happen I promise I won't get upset and whine about it.
That being said, the feature has no point. Having characters double their size to prance about the cities? That serves no purpose. Every city in the game is away from the roads, not a passage through it (save for LL but because it's by ship it doesn't really matter in this case) so having the Stork Stallions ride through them doesn't make much sense unless you where herding cattle or transporting large goods to somewhere at the back of the city. That's not very realistic or believable to me and if anything, it would hurt my immersion. I think just having stables near the city gates makes much more sense.

Now, I've played other MMO's that do let you ride into towns and cities, but they where either not as realisticly themed, the cities where the right size for mounts or otherwise, or they made sense in the context of the games' world. And they where all fine games. I just find it useless in this situation, unless they did add a good reason for you to move around town birdback.

Your idea of being "stuck in the past" is pretty shallow if it revolves around such useless features and gimmicks like that.
Not every little thing needs to be shiny and new. It's big features that make innovation matter, and they won't get innovation by miming features to a game that doesn't match their own structure.

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Well obviously it's a double edged blade. One must either sacrifice freedom, or one must sacrifice the perfect little dystopia where Chocobos are forbidden from entering towns.