Apparently. Personal Housing can 850k?

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Originally Posted by Taruranto

Considering how pointless housing is, i'm ok with low prices.

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I don't know what personal housing will be like, but I find Free Company housing to be the most useful thing yet. I picked a very good location for our house, and the included benefits are:

- Immediate teleport to the house no matter where I am.
- Mailbox.
- Retainer summoning bell.
- Market board.
- Resting EXP boost.
- FC chest.
- Making money with gardening.
- Neighbors.
- Fun.

All of these are within a 5-10 second walking range of the teleport. xD

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Originally Posted by JayCommon

At that price me and another dude in my FC could combine and buy 20 houses.

Please SE, make this happen...

I need one house dedicated to each primal, k?

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You guys have 20 level 50 characters with which to buy up all those houses?

I kind of hope they don't allow you to put bells or boards in personal houses. It should just be a personal(vanity) space. We have enough non interaction people in this mmo game.


Also I haven't seen any mention how they decided to handle server load. 850k means everyone and most of the alts can have houses. I do not see how if current FC house has to take into consideration server load, this system would work. Even if they are 2 or 3 mill i would think everyone's main would have a house within a month or so.

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Originally Posted by Stormrider

I kind of hope they don't allow you to put bells or boards in personal houses. It should just be a personal(vanity) space. We have enough non interaction people in this mmo game.


Also I haven't seen any mention how they decided to handle server load. 850k means everyone and most of the alts can have houses. I do not see how if current FC house has to take into consideration server load, this system would work. Even if they are 2 or 3 mill i would think everyone's main would have a house within a month or so.

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Well. if a House is just a bit bigger than an Inn room then.....FFXI Moogle House?

I think Personal Houses shouldnt cost any gil but seals.
100k seals. Buy House Permit keyitem at Grand Company.
Have this item be buyable at the new Rank Increase.

This will not effect gil or help RMT.

100k seals can be farmed in 3 days or in 1-2 weeks.
This will bring up the market for Potash & other stuff because there will not be huge stock of them being bought anymore cus people will save for there house.

Ugh. That price...

No, SE. -_-;

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Originally Posted by Tetsaru

I'm more concerned with the "slightly larger than inn rooms" comment

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I'm concerned with this also. And disappointed. But then housing in this game has pretty much been a universal disappointment.

Problem isnt size how what exactly housing being used for. Nothing really.

I'd love to just have my own instanced house (like inn rooms now, but a whole house) because if I'm honest I'm not going to invite anyone over. I'm just going to use it as a dumping ground for all the furnishings my retainer drags back from the wilds. I'm not fussed about having neighbours or any of that rubbish.

I wouldn't be surprised if that 850K was per head but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised if it was a one-off permit for the Estate to be able to expand to individual rooms.

(*u_u)

I've spent about triple that trying to get the FC house to how I want it looking decor wise and with regards to the interior.

Guess its time to start saving up once again (As soon as i have the last 3 Nymian wall lanterns I need..)

While I find the 850k very agreeable, I think I am personally going to settle for a private room in the company house.
Like others, the FC I am in also has a nice house on a very good location.

My FC has a medium sized house and although I didn't join the FC because they had a house.. I was pleased to find out they actually had one.

With that being said.. I visit the FC house once took a look around and then....get this.

I never have been back.. Not even to see the new decor or garden.

I do not see why a HOUSE is even needed in this GAME. It's pointless.

Unless you can dump every single item you carry from your retainers and your own personal inventory and armour slots into the furniture you place in your homes.. I see no value here. It's just SERVER BANDWITH better used for : idk ... maybe a f..ing Tackle Box , Retainers that dont cost 2.00 a month more . GC Reward Items that are not complete waste of time. :confused:

I think that's quite reasonable price-wise. I enjoy the FC houses, but I'm a homebody and I want to garden- I don't want to infringe on peoples gardening plots, and I like the idea of making my own little niche. Paying that much for that little spot seems more than reasonable. I don't understand the large amount of negativity here about the personal houses in general, though. So silly. :x

I actually see this price being to cheap! On basic i make about 100K a day and this just by doing daily's, Dungeons for my Tomes, Grinding for atmas. Oh and don't forget my retainers and selling the rubbish I pick up along the way. the only thing i find that dose not make money easy is my lvl 50 crafting!

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Originally Posted by Clavaat

This game uses real life servers that run on real life energy and money.

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Yeah they're running on our money we spend each month to ply the game.

I'm really, really, really curious to see if the personal housing is going to have small/medium/large, like the FC housing, or if these are going to be just one price fits all? Is the estimated 850k a starting price, or will this be the most expensive? My FC are still saving up for a FC house (we want a medium, no mediums left on Sargatanas, go figure...) and I've got separate funds for the personal house / FC house - but I'd like to know when I can stop saving :/

The size of the 850k house:

http://media.japentreprenad.se/2012/08/utedass1.jpg

I wonder if there's gonna be ingame banks wer u take out loans and pay them back over 25 years with interest!!

Imo i think Personal housing should be free. I don't mind putting my money towards FC house but i don't wanna end up having to save and make as much money as i can to buy something that should of been in the game from day one.

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Originally Posted by Blackcanary

Imo i think Personal housing should be free. I don't mind putting my money towards FC house but i don't wanna end up having to save and make as much money as i can to by something that should of been in the game from day one.

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If you've put money towards your FC house, your personal rooms will come with anyway.

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Originally Posted by aray0002

I do not see why a HOUSE is even needed in this GAME. It's pointless.

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To some players, any new content that doesn't drop new, high iLvl content is 'pointless'. However, that content wasn't designed for them. Clearly, housing was not designed for you, but there's a lot of people who really enjoy it.

850k sounded a little scary until I realised exactly how much goddamn money I make just levelling up my classes and doing endgame dungeon runs and stuff now. Hell, I probably have a few hundred k sitting with each of my retainers from the items I sell...

850k to buy, 5mil to decorate.

Unless everyone's happy with a maelstorm bed and a world map.

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Originally Posted by meJojo

850k to buy, 5mil to decorate.

Unless everyone's happy with a maelstorm bed and a world map.

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I'm pretty sure by this point that my retainer has brought me back an entire house worth of furnishings.

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Originally Posted by aray0002

I do not see why a HOUSE is even needed in this GAME. It's pointless.

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"hey guys, i dont like this so its pointless and dumb."
ok u go have fun wreckin coil face allday and get kicked or w/e while ill tend to my garden and a craft a lamp.
different strokes for all the folks coz
im sorry but some of us like to have fluff content and not bash our heads against the wall against
ppl in coil or ct and deal with trolls. cant wait and very excitied! :eek:

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Originally Posted by meJojo

850k to buy, 5mil to decorate.

Unless everyone's happy with a maelstorm bed and a world map.

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Well am not sure how it is on your server but on Hyperion everything is cheap! unless its Ilvl90 gear but lets not go into that.

Personal housing and FC housing will not always be pointless! Not even now really my FC use the house for a crating station were we all sit craft with everything we need right there. Crafting house items equal huge waste of time so we have not even bothered with them.

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Originally Posted by Cigaran

Guessing you missed the stream when they were showing off the FC Housing and he had around 800k in gil on his character. When that amount got questioned, we had almost the same exact reply.

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Was he in a FC. Didn't he just buy a personal house? ^^

A good point though without personal housing what use is there to have so much gil and I know many players can easily afford this even at triple the rate or more purely because the market boards are profitable for crafters hell you don't even have to be a crafter just spirit bond materia to make huge profit on the boards right now. And for what reason would you need the gil if they decided not to add personal housing.

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Originally Posted by ExiaQuanta

"As for personal housing, you’ll need a level 50 character and get up to a certain rank in the Grand Company. This will be introduced sometime after the Free Company’s personal rooms are made available in Patch 2.3, and the size will be a little larger than the ones at the inns. The prices will be around 850,000 gil, which Yoshida says might be a bit too much, so it could be lower."

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I'm not going through the whole thread, but I watched the interview live and that article is wrong.

This is basically what happened.

someone asks about personal housing
Yoshida, (assistant director) Hiroshi talk about personal housing

Hiroshi: I've dumped most of my gil into the FC chest, I don't have a lot left. Maybe 850k gil.
Yoshida: That's not going to be enough.... It won't be as expensive as FC housing though.


Or if you don't believe me, here's the source.

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吉田： *snip* （個人向けの家の）価格は85万ギルくらいではきびしそう。フリーカンパニーが所有する家ほどは高くしないつもり。

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Originally Posted by Beetle

Problem isnt size how what exactly housing being used for. Nothing really.

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Raising a chocobo
Dyeing your Chocobo with food
Building an airship

This are some of the coming housing features we know already
Who know, maybe they plan a way to reskill the chocobo also as a housing feature ^^

maybe they will shock us and the 850k is for the legacy worlds.

just sayin since we dont have a lot to go on at this point

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Originally Posted by Wildsprite

maybe they will shock us and the 850k is for the legacy worlds.

just sayin since we dont have a lot to go on at this point

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I don't think so, Yoshi or one of his representatives has said that the Legacy/non-Legacy server economies are starting to balance out.
Aside from that, much more gil is being pumped into the economy compared to 2.1, gil comes in the thousands from everywhere now.

Legacy or not, everyone can save up that 850k in a couple of weeks without needing rediculous playtimes or even selling anything on the marketboards.

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Originally Posted by QuCont

I'm not going through the whole thread, but I watched the interview live and that article is wrong.

This is basically what happened.

someone asks about personal housing
Yoshida, (assistant director) Hiroshi talk about personal housing

Hiroshi: I've dumped most of my gil into the FC chest, I don't have a lot left. Maybe 850k gil.
Yoshida: That's not going to be enough.... It won't be as expensive as FC housing though.


Or if you don't believe me, here's the source.

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Ya I was going to post this, the article is wrong, it's going to be more than 850k because yoshida said Hiroshi could not afford it. He went onto say, with all the extra money going in with challenges and bonuses people Gil should start going up.

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Originally Posted by Cigaran

Funny I recall almost the same thing being said about FC housing prices right before the community was bent over a barrel.

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On the video for FC housing people saw that it cost 850k Gil for the house. Not for the plot of land.

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Originally Posted by Cigaran

Guessing you missed the stream when they were showing off the FC Housing and he had around 800k in gil on his character.

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I am guessing that you are one of the many people that didn't notice during the stream that he was a level 1 LNC (I think it was LNC. I know it wasn't PLD, and it was level 1), but was wearing PLD AF. Nothing in the stream could be taken as "This must be how things are going to be." My LNC is level 35, and I still can't wear PLD AF, so I must be doing something wrong.

My point is; NOTHING was SAID about pricing. People just made crazy assumptions based on something they saw in a video that was intended ONLY to show how the house purchasing process worked. Just like I made a crazy assumption about LNC being able to wear PLD AF (I obviously didn't assume this. It was just to make my point).

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Originally Posted by QuCont

I'm not going through the whole thread, but I watched the interview live and that article is wrong.

This is basically what happened.

someone asks about personal housing
Yoshida, (assistant director) Hiroshi talk about personal housing

Hiroshi: I've dumped most of my gil into the FC chest, I don't have a lot left. Maybe 850k gil.
Yoshida: That's not going to be enough.... It won't be as expensive as FC housing though.


Or if you don't believe me, here's the source.

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I figured as much. But there's a huge disparity between 850k and 625 million, or 850k and 62.5 million

"Oh don't worry it won't be as expensive as FC housing"
Oh but I am worried, because I feel even if I get up to 6 million by the time 2.3 comes out it STILL won't be enough

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Originally Posted by QuCont

I'm not going through the whole thread, but I watched the interview live and that article is wrong.

This is basically what happened.

someone asks about personal housing
Yoshida, (assistant director) Hiroshi talk about personal housing

Hiroshi: I've dumped most of my gil into the FC chest, I don't have a lot left. Maybe 850k gil.
Yoshida: That's not going to be enough.... It won't be as expensive as FC housing though.


Or if you don't believe me, here's the source.

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Ooh boy... if the English magazine mis-interpreted this to be "housing will be 850k", SE needs to step up NOW and make the clarification!! ><' Otherwise this is gonna be a shit storm like when they released the FC housing prices.

The servers obviously can't handle alot of housing so to keep too many people from buying houses it has to be priced where not many can afford one. It was said recently somewhere that the average player has about 2 million gil. So expect personal housing to cost more than that. Probably minimum of 5 million or if it's like FC housing where the prices drop steadily it could start as high as 15 million I would guess.

Still cheaper than FC housing.

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Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter

The servers obviously can't handle alot of housing so to keep too many people from buying houses it has to be priced where not many can afford one. It was said recently somewhere that the average player has about 2 million gil. So expect personal housing to cost more than that. Probably minimum of 5 million or if it's like FC housing where the prices drop steadily it could start as high as 15 million I would guess.

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MMO development rule #5: Don't be cheap with servers. Eventually it'll come back and bite you on the ass

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Originally Posted by Fluttersnipe

Funny thing about a game is that it's not real life.

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FFXIV is my life!

Truthfully I've been playing it a bit too much...

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Originally Posted by QuCont

Hiroshi: I've dumped most of my gil into the FC chest, I don't have a lot left. Maybe 850k gil.
Yoshida: That's not going to be enough.... It won't be as expensive as FC housing though.

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I just... what. SE, stop doing housing wrong, ffs. Personal housing should be as easy access as possible. Take a page out of so many other MMOs' books and let everyone unlock a small, free one, and then if they want some "long term goals", they can pay more to upgrade. Or, hell, put those GC ranks/seals or beast tribe dailies to use and put housing upgrades behind those! But everyone from low level to high level, regardless of GC rank or gil income, should have access to a starter house.