Warrior Tanking

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Originally Posted by Kelberos

I wish I could, but there's a limit to how many keybinds i can reach and assign things to. I even keybinded my mouse 4 and mouse 5 in some instances. ZXCVBQERF~ and TG.

Anyone want to enlighten me in the zen of key management?

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Click your less used keys?

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Originally Posted by Paikis

Click your less used keys?

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But of course :). I still have to click activate a bunch of them - but i tend to not want to do that during certain moves to prevent trip ups.

So in general i am curious what kind of skills do you trigger by clicking and which ones do you trigger via keybinds.

At the moment i lay out most of my defensive cooldowns below WASD for easier access.
Put my high use combos from 1 to 6 (BB, SE,SP).
Overpower and Toma on QE and Provoke on ~
R & F tends to change from time to time depending on my needs as with the Mouse 4 and 5.

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Originally Posted by Paikis

It has always been off the GCD.

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Yeah its been always off the GCD, that was not my point, it used to interrupt your combo, so did flash, I beleive since 2.1 it does not anymore.

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Originally Posted by Kelberos

I wish I could, but there's a limit to how many keybinds i can reach and assign things to. I even keybinded my mouse 4 and mouse 5 in some instances. ZXCVBQERF~ and TG.

Anyone want to enlighten me in the zen of key management?

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Why don't you use F1 F2 1 2 3 and 4? You could also use modifiers like Alt and Shift with those keys.

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Originally Posted by Paikis

Do we know that you get 1 point of damage back for 1 point of hate, or is it just a set amount of damage you take for each spell cast? I don't play a caster, so I've never really noticed.

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The damage reflected is how much you would have done, but for some reason it happens with Flash too.

Me and another Paladin took the same amount of damage from it despite that our gear was different. We had Curtana in common.

Then when he +1'ed his Curtana and I didn't, he took more damage from it.

One can only assume that the amount of damage is proportionate to the enmity generated by flash.

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Originally Posted by Paikis

Rotations - Maintenance
I've put this in here because it is expected, and not because there actually are any real rotations as such. Warrior rotations are not so much a list of combos that you use one after the other, but are more a priority list. You want to maintain agro first and foremost, with Storm's Path being the next most important, followed by Storm's Eye. With that said, it is almost impossible to create a rotation as such. There are a few sequences of combos that do get used often though, and they can go here.

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Question: I have pulled the mob and I now have aggro. What combos should I use after I pull?

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While I would like to throw many combos out, I'll stick with a sequence that focuses on using all 3 combos: BB, SP, & SE.
Ask yourself these questions each time going from 1 to 3; you will find deciding what to use after the pull much easier.
(Aggro = agro = threat = enmity)

Main Tank:
1. Do I risk losing aggro to another party member on my target?
Yes: Use a Butcher's Block combo.
No: Proceed to 2.

2. Does my target have the damage reduction debuff applied?
Yes: Proceed to 3.
No: Use a Storm's Path combo.

3. Does my target have the slashing resistance debuff applied?
Yes: Use any combo you want (apply debuffs if they're about to run out via SP/SE or gain extra aggro/do more damage via BB)
No: Use a Storm's Eye combo.

Note from the Poster: It is another way of looking at the "priority list" Paikis mentions earlier in this section.
Disclaimer: This method may not work for everyone, and if there is another way that works better for you I encourage you to use that instead.

Off-tank:
Quite literally, a rotation between SP/SE to keep debuffs up on the target.
Start with SE first though, so both you and the main-tank can gain more aggro/do more damage with their attacks.
Be sure to have Provoke/tomahawk ready to use in case an add slips, MT dies, or you need to tank swap.

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Originally Posted by Kelberos

I wish I could, but there's a limit to how many keybinds i can reach and assign things to. I even keybinded my mouse 4 and mouse 5 in some instances. ZXCVBQERF~ and TG.

Anyone want to enlighten me in the zen of key management?

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Use Ctrl/Shift/Alt modified binds, works like a charm; you may need a bit of adjustment time, but it's worth it. I even went as far as to reassign Caps Lock to Shift since I was constantly hitting it on accident (who ever uses Caps Lock any way!?).

Current binds are F1 F2 M1 M2 F G (no Mod)(Shift)(Alt) ` 1 2 3 4 5 Q E R T and I have enough room for more than every ability on every Job with room to grow.

What I really wish SE would do is allow for modifiers to be added to macros to cut down on Hot Bar real-estate.

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Originally Posted by Fraxx

Yeah its been always off the GCD, that was not my point, it used to interrupt your combo, so did flash, I beleive since 2.1 it does not anymore.

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It never interrupted your combo, even in 2.0. You're simply misremembering it or conflating MS with Fracture (which actually *does* break your combo).

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Originally Posted by Paikis

[SIZE="3"]Cross Class Abilities:
These are my picks. I consider the first 3 to be a requirement, Flash is arguable and the last slot can be changed depending on your circumstances. I do use Flash in almost every fight, and do keep it cross classed for that reason.
Provoke - This is probably the only cross class skill in the game that is 100% required and you can't do your job without it. Tank swaps without this ability are impossible to manage. You need this ability.
Convalescence - A very strong defensive cooldown, combined with Thrill of Battle it is a very effective cooldown.
Featherfoot - 15% chance to take no damage. It is chance based though, so this could do nothing. But it could also see you dodge all damage for the duration (unlikely).
Internal Release- You want this to have something you can use while Pacified by Berserk. Using it in AoE situations will also conserve your TP, a major consideration for Warriors. This ability is much less useful since the Overpower buff, but still better than most of your other choices.
Mantra/Second Wind/Flash/Awareness/Haymaker - The last slot can conceivably go to any of these, although Awareness would be last on my list. I generally just use Flash and call it done. In extreme cases of min-maxing, you will want to swap these out depending on the fight.

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You moved Flash to the "optional" category and replaced it with Internal Release, but you didn't change the commentary/explanations. Might be a bit confusing for someone reading it from scratch to see the Internal Release being discussed in how it related to Berserk and Overpower.

But flash does have the advantage of not needing to target for use, though situations where that is required aren't common. It's helpful when I'm on a controller and I need to grab aggro quickly I'd flash and use the GCD to find the monster instead of tabbing through 5, 6 monsters first to throw a tomahawk. I'm fairly new to tanking but so far I've used it as OT on Cad split, Thornmarch to grab GLD and MRD instantly since they spawn next to each other and Rotten Eyes in CT.

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Originally Posted by Kitru

You moved Flash to the "optional" category and replaced it with Internal Release, but you didn't change the commentary/explanations. Might be a bit confusing for someone reading it from scratch to see the Internal Release being discussed in how it related to Berserk and Overpower.

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Fixed, thank you. I'm honestly thinking the last two slots should be set as 'pick whatever you like' because Internal Release is a really minor damage buff (5% for 15 seconds).

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Originally Posted by LordTiberiusRex

P.S. @Paikis, could you reformat the layout so that way it looks a little more reader-friendly? (Here's an example: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...mpendium-2.0.1) (This is targeted primarily at the "Abilities List" and "Best in Slot" section of the guide (1. There should also be a notice that the number before the skill means the level you get it at & 2. Add in a picture like how the link does for the BiS; not only is it a visual, it shows you exactly what stats are there for each item and the sum of them))

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I have reformatted the abilities section to highlight the ability names. I don't like what Griever has done with his formatting though, as empty lines between every ability just seems like so much unneeded bloat. I've also made up some nice tables to match the ones in Griever's PLD guide (mostly because I'm lazy) and will add those in at some point. I also want to do a more comprehensive section on gearing because at the moment all that I have is 2 lists and a couple points. Something on Bravura Zenith vs Dual Haken perhaps, though that really is a no-brainer.

It's interesting just how adamant people on reddit are that Bravura Zenith is a waste of Tomes. I got mine as my first myth upgrade way back when, so perhaps I'm not the best person to be asking, but I've never regretted it. What do you folks think?

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Originally Posted by Paikis

It's interesting just how adamant people on reddit are that Bravura Zenith is a waste of Tomes. I got mine as my first myth upgrade way back when, so perhaps I'm not the best person to be asking, but I've never regretted it. What do you folks think?

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I have both BravuraZ and Dual Haken, reasoning being that they have different distributions. It's not like Dual Haken is explicitly *better* than BravuraZ; if you need the acc, yes Dual Haken is better, but BravuraZ brings more parry and a healthy does of skill speed, which, depending upon your opinion of it, is the best thing to stack after you've topped off your acc. This means that, if you can get the acc from Dual Haken through other sources, you're better off using BravuraZ. I keep them both for much the same reason that I have both the Allagan wrist and the Hero's wrist: one has the "preferred" secondary stats but the other has more itemization devoted to parry rating. It could be considered kind of wasteful, but it allows me to make sure I get only the proper amount of accuracy while maximizing my parry rating.

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Originally Posted by Skull_Angel

Use Ctrl/Shift/Alt modified binds, works like a charm; you may need a bit of adjustment time, but it's worth it. I even went as far as to reassign Caps Lock to Shift since I was constantly hitting it on accident (who ever uses Caps Lock any way!?).

Current binds are F1 F2 M1 M2 F G (no Mod)(Shift)(Alt) ` 1 2 3 4 5 Q E R T and I have enough room for more than every ability on every Job with room to grow.

What I really wish SE would do is allow for modifiers to be added to macros to cut down on Hot Bar real-estate.

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D'oh. Of course the F-keys. Totally missed it :( Yeah it fits okay now. Between F1-5 and the Z-B row.

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Originally Posted by Paikis

Fixed, thank you. I'm honestly thinking the last two slots should be set as 'pick whatever you like' because Internal Release is a really minor damage buff (5% for 15 seconds).

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I'd encourage Warriors to actively change their cross-class skills and tailor them to the encounter they'll be facing.

I agree that Provoke, Convalescence, and Featherfoot are the three "must haves" here. As for the others, describing the situations where you would want certain skills would be a great addition to the guide.

Mantra - Fights with heavy AoE healing. eg. Titan, Ifrit

Internal Release - Fights that can benefit from the extra damage output. Typically damage races or ones with adds. eg. Garuda, Titan, Turn 4

Second Wind - Fights where you can get hit with dangerous burst damage that can one-round you if you're not topped off. eg. Caduceus, Twintania, Ifrit, ADS.

Awareness - Similar to Second Wind, to further reduce potential for damage bursts from crits.

Flash - Fights where you need AoE threat generation and TP conservation. eg. Turn 4

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Originally Posted by bokchoykn

Awareness - Similar to Second Wind, to further reduce potential for damage bursts from crits. eg. Caduceus, Twintania.

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No boss in Coil crits. Take Awareness for fights like Titan and Ifrit Extreme (And Titan Hard, lol) if you want it to be marginally useful.

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Originally Posted by Instrumentality

No boss in Coil crits. Take Awareness for fights like Titan and Ifrit Extreme (And Titan Hard, lol) if you want it to be marginally useful.

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Thanks and fixed. I used Awareness vs Twin this week. I feel dumb.

Well written guide and input from others.

I have nothing to add btw.

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Originally Posted by bokchoykn

Thanks and fixed. I used Awareness vs Twin this week. I feel dumb.

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It's a bit fallacious to say that no boss in Coil crits. They *can* crit, but the only attacks that NPCs (any NPC, not just bosses or NPCs in Coil) use that can score crits are their auto-attacks. Given that auto-attacks make up a very small portion of their total damage and/or risk of killing the tank, the amount that crits will affect you in Coil is negligible.

Against Twintania, some people will actually counsel you to use Awareness for Death Sentences because, while Death Sentence might not be able to crit, the auto-attacks before and after it most definitely *can*. When you're surviving an attack by less than 1-2k hp, a critical hit *could* actually kill you when a normal hit would not have. The issue that arises is whether those attacks would have crit if you'd had Awareness up, given that enemies have remarkably low crit rates.

I have actually been killed by getting spiked and then crit in coil (in both t1 from Cad and t4 from 4 stack dread; nothing the ADS uses can crit though, afaik) so I wouldn't say that it's *worthless*. Since you can't really predict when the RNG is going to decide to give you a bad time nor can you assume that it will occur at a rate in which you'll have Awareness up for it, Awareness does have severely limited value.

As such, it's *bad*, but it's not completely worthless. Just mostly worthless.

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Originally Posted by Kitru

It's a bit fallacious to say that no boss in Coil crits. They *can* crit

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No.

/tenchar

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Originally Posted by Instrumentality

No.

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So what are those random auto-attacks that hit me for 50% harder than normal auto-attacks count as?

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Originally Posted by Kitru

So what are those random auto-attacks that hit me for 50% harder than normal auto-attacks count as?

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Nothing. They don't exist.

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Originally Posted by Paikis

I have reformatted the abilities section to highlight the ability names. I don't like what Griever has done with his formatting though, as empty lines between every ability just seems like so much unneeded bloat. I've also made up some nice tables to match the ones in Griever's PLD guide

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Looks more amazing every time I check it out. Nicely done, mate!

Adding in some extra stuff to pump it up a bit.

Resources (in progress atm):
So you want to tank EX Primals (Tips Section)
B.L.I.T.Z.B.A.L.L. (Mechanics and Formulas)
Getting your Relic weapon
FFXIV Database (xivdb.com)
Warrior "Macro"oni in Thread
Making Macros (Reddit)

Navigation Links to Guide:
Introduction & Change Log
Abilities
Wrath, Infuriate, & Standard Combos
Pulling & Rotations
Macros, Gear, & Stats

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Originally Posted by bokchoykn

[*]The only time you'd want to use Flash is to start the pull in situations where mobs are too spread out for Overpower and you want to spend the Infuriate/ Wrath stacks on something other than Steel Cyclone, such as Inner Beast or Unchained. I find these situations to be rare, but WP Speed Runs and Turn 4 are such examples where you want that Inner Beast for the damage reduction instead of using Steel Cyclone.

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In Titan HM, I suppose you don't repeat it much :-), if you flash before each Mountain Buster, you may dodge 2, 3 or more if the fight lasts long enough (it does last if you kill him.) This makes a difference.
One thing you are not taking into account is that flash has the blind effect that against some mobs makes it much more likely that you dodge the attacks. It is not just to gain enmity, although we normally use it for that. I think most of us (PLD included) use flash less than it would be ideal, we forget about it except when it is very clear we need it (PLD don't have Overpower so Flash is much more needed.) I am leveling Marauder and I love Overpower a lot.

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Originally Posted by JonBigwood

One thing you are not taking into account is that flash has the blind effect that against some mobs makes it much more likely that you dodge the attacks.

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Only the GLA/PLD version of Flash has the blind on it. For MRD/WAR, it only provides enmity.

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Originally Posted by Kitru

Only the GLA/PLD version of Flash has the blind on it. For MRD/WAR, it only provides enmity.

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I didn't know that. Bad news for me :-)

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Originally Posted by JonBigwood

I didn't know that. Bad news for me :-)

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Gotta read them traits. It's the only thing I want that GLD/PLD have.

Perhaps I skipped over this when I was reading through the guide, but what's the best way to allocate our bonus stats? I guess I'm still stuck in the 2.0 mindset of people arguing over STR vs VIT, but has anything definitive been discovered? If not, I think I'll stick with my +30 STR for the additional damage, enmity, and HP regen from Bloodbath, Inner Beast, and Storm's Path. ...then again, the farthest my tank has gotten is Garuda HM, so I don't know if the additional 30 VIT is particularly necessary.

It's in the guide. Vit all the way. It's like the fifth post on the front page and even bolded for easy notice. It says Vit vs Str.

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Originally Posted by Mysteltain

Perhaps I skipped over this when I was reading through the guide, but what's the best way to allocate our bonus stats? I guess I'm still stuck in the 2.0 mindset of people arguing over STR vs VIT, but has anything definitive been discovered? If not, I think I'll stick with my +30 STR for the additional damage, enmity, and HP regen from Bloodbath, Inner Beast, and Storm's Path. ...then again, the farthest my tank has gotten is Garuda HM, so I don't know if the additional 30 VIT is particularly necessary.

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Here ya go:

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Originally Posted by Paikis

STR vs VIT, gearing and minor stats.
Previous to 2.1, there was much heated debate on the merits of the Gryphonskin set with tanking melds versus just straight up VIT heavy ilevel 90 gear. I was a proponent of the Gryphonskin set and successfully used them to tank everything except Twintania (which you need the extra health for because of Death Sentence). While you had less actual health, you had more mitigation (STR and DEX increases parry) and larger self healing, as well as extra enmity generation and damage. The trade off was well worth it in my (and others') opinion. With 2.1 however, and the large reduction in healing from Inner Beast, the argument is over. 30 Points in VIT is now the only correct choice. Threat generation went from comfortable to laughable and while tank damage is still relevant, the healing provided by the extra damage was cut drastically. As such, if you're tanking, you want the highest ilevel VIT heavy pieces you can get while still maintaining enough accuracy to hit things. You will still want a set of Gryphonskin, but this will only be used on content that you vastly outgear, or if you're going to be off tanking and not taking any large amounts of damage. You can safely skip this set if you wish.

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Originally Posted by Mysteltain

Perhaps I skipped over this when I was reading through the guide, but what's the best way to allocate our bonus stats? I guess I'm still stuck in the 2.0 mindset of people arguing over STR vs VIT, but has anything definitive been discovered? If not, I think I'll stick with my +30 STR for the additional damage, enmity, and HP regen from Bloodbath, Inner Beast, and Storm's Path. ...then again, the farthest my tank has gotten is Garuda HM, so I don't know if the additional 30 VIT is particularly necessary.

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Sorry but your Defiance tooltip states that it REDUCES DAMAGE and INCREASES HP by 25%, and then some people choose damage over HP.
Like, srsly u guys.

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Originally Posted by Megido

Sorry but your Defiance tooltip states that it REDUCES DAMAGE and INCREASES HP by 25%, and then some people choose damage over HP.
Like, srsly u guys.

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This was a valid tactic in 2.0. As Mysteltain said, it increases your self-healing, as well as helping with agro and parry reduction. The 45 STR from a set of Gryphonskin was about 15% extra damage (and thus healing) as well as at least 1% parry. Well worth the loss of ~400HP at the time.

Thanks Paikis! I guess I must've skipped over that one sentence ("30 Points in VIT is now the only correct choice."), because I even went back and reread that section a second time before I posted my question. I guess I was just focused on the gear you mentioned than the bonus stats.

I'll be honest, though, seeing some of my crits during Inner Beast makes me wish we still had the 300% heal. Ah well, I've got the seals saved up for a stat reset, and I doubt I'll be looking back afterwards.

I'm quite certain that nobody cares, but I'm quitting.

Anyone who wishes to copy+paste this guide to continue it is more than welcome to. I do ask that you give credit where appropriate and make sure no one else has made a copy before you though, as we don't need 17 copies.

Thanks guys, it was fun while it lasted.

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Originally Posted by Paikis

I'm quite certain that nobody cares, but I'm quitting.

Anyone who wishes to copy+paste this guide to continue it is more than welcome to. I do ask that you give credit where appropriate and make sure no one else has made a copy before you though, as we don't need 17 copies.

Thanks guys, it was fun while it lasted.

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I'm surprised Kitru hasn't done it yet. I know they had a numbers thread pre 2.1, but generally damn good advice.

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Originally Posted by Paikis

I'm quite certain that nobody cares, but I'm quitting.

Anyone who wishes to copy+paste this guide to continue it is more than welcome to. I do ask that you give credit where appropriate and make sure no one else has made a copy before you though, as we don't need 17 copies.

Thanks guys, it was fun while it lasted.

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Why would the fire that made you write this guide extinguish within a month?

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Originally Posted by Naiser

Why would the fire that made you write this guide extinguish within a month?

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I can only give you my opinion on the matter. I signed up to be a warrior because self healing appealed to me quite a bit. It wasn't great, and it needed lots of work, but I was willing to ride the storm in hopes that they'd take the time to actually make it work with %HP returns, or absorbs, or something! However, I eventually decided that I didn't want to wait another month or so because I had selected the wrong class at start, only to hear, and then experience, that it was paladin or bust, so I quit in October and only came back a few days ago to see these changes.

What I got was a bandaid fix (granted it works, don't get me wrong) that makes me feel like paladin v2.0. After a few days of playing (NEET here, so by playing, I mean lots of it) I don't have that same drive I used to. First time I hit IB, I was dismayed by it. I expected that somewhat large number to pop up. Did I get it? Nope. Saw a nifty little buff for 20% damage reduction that lasts 6 or so seconds. I thought, "hey, not bad!" Then I started thinking about it and looked at my other abilities and how they were changed up or left alone.

I saw the SP buff and thought it was great, but I still don't understand why it gives such a pittance of healing. I looked at Bloodbath, nothing happened there. So I fired up the patch notes and spent an hour or so looking over everything and doing some thinking. Eventually I came to the conclusion that I should have just leveled a paladin. Nothing we do is unique compared to them. We stepped into their territory, giving up identity for a quick (and easy) fix.

As much as they want a thriving game (and I do too), this is borderline unacceptable to me. %HP returns, absorption, anything like that would have made me happy. Because of the identity of the class. I want to really dig in and get into the game, but it's ridiculously hard for me to do when I feel like another class in different gear mechanically. IB is our lifeline. It is the one thing we can reliably do to handle predictable burst. During beta when I saw all the small bits of self healing and such, I was excited. I was impressed another company wanted to have diversity in their tanks (especially since there's only two).

It'd take lots of work (more than SE apparently cares to do, but that's just me upset about it). I have plenty of ideas that'll never see the light of day to make it work, genuinely because I feel SE is very happy where things are. At this rate, I'm not sure I really want to wait on another tanking class and hope it's not only different, but has actual effort put into making it work so it doesn't step on the toes of paladins.

Warriors have a very fun kit to use, but mechanically, I'd rather just play a paladin instead. That said, I won't because their kit looks boring as hell with neat effects tied to them. I mean, not seriously anyway. Might level one up so I can see the CDs, effects, and how their abilities work so I can just draw up a way to make self healing work for a warrior treating returned HP/absorbs like a %dmg reduction effect just for my own peace of mind.

To you other warriors, please, I'm begging you, help me get over this dark cloud and enjoy the class again, because at this rate, I'm just not sure and it really sucks.

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Originally Posted by Zegreiart

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2.0 WAR had always been about Wrath management; the only glimmer of self-healing we had was through Inner Beast, with Bloodbath and Storm's Path being a trickle at best, no more than icing on the cake that is WAR.

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Originally Posted by Skull_Angel

2.0 WAR had always been about Wrath management; the only glimmer of self-healing we had was through Inner Beast, with Bloodbath and Storm's Path being a trickle at best, no more than icing on the cake that is WAR.

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Kinda feels like you didn't really read much of anything I wrote. I never once mentioned I have issues with managing wrath stacks. It's more of a loss of identity and lack of interest in the direction of things. I wanted to see that trickle become stronger, wanted it to be more. Honestly, I wouldn't even call that icing on the cake, because it isn't. It's not even noticeable in the grand scheme of things. But that's alright, I had a moderately long conversation with a few people. It's not ideal, nor what I want out of things, but I do feel better about the situation. Just a bit disappointed overall, but I'll live.

pally or bust? yeah i leveled one to 50.. but one thing you're missing

pally is hella boring to play its just halone halone halone halone.. then spirits within / circle of scorn (both off the GCD so just stuff it in there while doing ur halone halone) .. then nothing else.. probably occasional stoneskin or so during transitions

WAR is still very much engaging to play since we have 3 chain combos = buff to piercing / debuff to boss / aggro

-10% from debuff + IB -20% damage redox can yield you -30% for a 6 second duration pallies at -20% (yeah i know its a small window but timing IB right for those big hits is the ONLY thing that matters ie: double wicked wheels / mountain buster/death sentence etc) since passive damage (auto attacks) from bosses are easily healable

the only real differentiation are cooldowns like hallowed ground and lets just hope SE does something about it

Pallies are so boring and way too easy to play

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Originally Posted by Zegreiart

Kinda feels like you didn't really read much of anything I wrote. I never once mentioned I have issues with managing wrath stacks.

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And that's the issue. You're focused upon the mechanic as opposed to the playstyle. A class is defined by its playstyle, not by the mechanics used. WAR has always been defined by Wrath generation and management rather than the self healing that you (and many other people) focused upon to the exclusion of pretty much anything else. All of the WAR self healing could be removed completely and be replaced by more mitigation and it wouldn't do anything to the WAR playstyle. The only difference is the specific mechanic used. The Defiance benefits could be replaced by a flat 20% DR (yes, *slight* buff, but that's beside the point) and, even though WAR would see smaller heals on it and wouldn't get to experience the huge max hp numbers, it wouldn't change how WAR played because 20% DR does the exact same thing as 25% + hp and 25% +healing.

Basically, you focused on the wrong aspect of WAR when choosing it. You focused upon a mechanic rather than the playstyle. Mechanics are *always* fluid and prone to changing, especially for balance purposes (which is what you're perturbed about; self-healing wasn't effective so a majority of it was replaced with flat mitigation) but playstyle is a relative constant (changing overall playstyle requires massive changes to a class/job).