Roll Over Minutes for Tomes Please

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Originally Posted by Brises

No. Both player A and player B would still only be able to earn (for now) 300 myth per week. Player B plays for 2 months (8 weeks), and player A is absent during that same time. Player B has ran 10 WP per week and earned 2400 myth over 8 weeks. Player A has done nothing and earned zero. Player A will have accrued 8 weeks of unclaimed myth tomes, so he would be able to run 80 WP runs in one week if he wants to... er, 90 rather since he missed 8 full weeks. But yeah, that's the idea. Player A still has to do the runs to get them.

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In his example, he said that the second person started a month later but actively played the whole time.. so in his example, yes, person A (who left the game for whatever reason) would have more myths because of the rollover simply because they had an account longer. that isn't fair to someone who has been actively playing. If you cant play the game, you cant play the game. end of story.

If you cant put in the very very small amount of time this game allows you to be progressive, then tough. Why should people play every day (or every week) if there is a system in the game that literally allows you to play other games and do other things for 2-3 months, then come back and burn WP for a day or 2 and be equally geared. Its just so sad that MMOs have come to this.

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This is essentially the same idea, they should be entitled to the option to make up for lost tomes because they are paying for the service as much as the guy who got the tomes each week on time. They payed the same fee so yes they should get the same consideration. I like this idea very much.

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If you pay for tickets to go to the concert, you dont show up until the next week, should the band be waiting on you to play just for you because you couldn't be bothered to show up on time? But you paid the same money!
If you go to an all you can eat buffet, and you can only eat one plate of food, but the guy across from you could eat 3, should you be able to take 2 plates home to make it fair? or be able to come back twice for free? But you paid the same money!
You pay for the time, if you don't use your time, tough. Stuff like this sounds like the reason every team in little league sports gets a trophy and no one really wins or loses.

In all seriously, if some of these people spent half as much time playing the game as they do crying on the forums about how they don't have time to get all their tomes, they'd have all their tomes.

I have mixed feelings about this as well. But more options is always nice. I don't think it would do any harm to anyone to implement this, but with some kind of restriction. I am rather curious to see what the devs think of this.

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Originally Posted by Lurkios

Why force the choice? There's no damage done to those who do keep up and no advantage gained by those who fall behind.

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It dose hurt everyone. If you dont earn it and you are not there too earn it why do you deserve special treatment? If they allow this the special treatment threads and request will continue, so nip it in the bud now.

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Originally Posted by Brises

No. Both player A and player B would still only be able to earn (for now) 300 myth per week. Player B plays for 2 months (8 weeks), and player A is absent during that same time. Player B has ran 10 WP per week and earned 2400 myth over 8 weeks. Player A has done nothing and earned zero. Player A will have accrued 8 weeks of unclaimed myth tomes, so he would be able to run 80 WP runs in one week if he wants to... er, 90 rather since he missed 8 full weeks. But yeah, that's the idea. Player A still has to do the runs to get them.

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So, Player B, for playing the game every day is awarded with a grand total of 2800 less potential Mythology Tomestones than Player A, who hasn't played the game in two months.
...Yeah, that's fair.

No, I don't care that Player A has to run WP 10 times a day for 8 days straight to earn all of the Mythology Tomestones. This system encourages people to log on even LESS than they do now, when the game is referred to as a "Monday game."

Edit: And just for the sake of openness, I'm not one of those people who regularly caps Mythology. If you look at my character sheet, I've been L50 for a few weeks, and am mostly equipped with crafted i55 gear that I made myself, and an Ifrit Sword.

As of right now, I earn maybe 100-200 a week, because my friends and I wait for each other before doing anything substantial(we consider dungeon runs substantial). If anything, this system would only HELP me. I just don't believe I deserve a roll-over on Mythology Tomes simply because I wasn't able to play a lot one week, or because I'm not skilled enough to get my Tomestones capped on a regular basis right now.

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Originally Posted by indira

should earn tomes other wise just be another geared person who dont know how to play.

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I don't understand these responses, it's not like we are requesting you just get given the tomes you don't earn you still need to do the content to earn them, as I mentioned have a hard cap like guild leves. You don't get auto xp because guild leves stack to 99.

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Originally Posted by FMElan

So, Player B, for playing the game every day is awarded with a grand total of 2800 less potential Mythology Tomestones than Player A, who hasn't played the game in two months.

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Which is why you would have a hard cap of like 1000 meaning you can only store 2-3 weeks of myths to do in a week.

Why does it matter so much if you fall a little behind others. Play at your own pace and have fun well you are playing. Stop worry about other being so far ahead.

What exactly are people falling behind on? You don't need anything more than relic + 1 and full darklight to run most of the content in this game. I've never seen anyone ask for item level 90 gear for anything outside of Turn 5.

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Originally Posted by Eruantien

Which is why you would have a hard cap of like 1000 meaning you can only store 2-3 weeks of myths to do in a week.

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Okay, so let's change the scenario, shall we?

Player A takes one week to reach L50 and complete the main scenario. Afterwards, he disappears for three weeks. Two weeks after he disappears, Player B starts the game and takes exactly one week to complete the game. By the time Player A has returned, Player B has earned 300 Mythology Tomestones. Player A then spams Wanderer's Palace and earns 900 Tomestones.

Please explain to me how that's more fair.

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Originally Posted by ProxyTooMuch

What exactly are people falling behind on? You don't need anything more than relic + 1 and full darklight to run most of the content in this game. I've never seen anyone ask for item level 90 gear for anything outside of Turn 5.

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The OP is.

But this is why the game has 2 types of growth.

Up and Sideways.

Up is 1 jobs max gear max level.

Sideways other jobs.


So even if you take 2 months off. People will still raid with you because they need gear from other jobs.

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Originally Posted by FMElan

Okay, so let's change the scenario, shall we?

Player A takes one week to reach L50 and complete the main scenario. Afterwards, he disappears for three weeks. Two weeks after he disappears, Player B starts the game and takes exactly one week to complete the game. By the time Player A has returned, Player B has earned 300 Mythology Tomestones. Player A then spams Wanderer's Palace and earns 900 Tomestones.

Please explain to me how that's more fair.

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You are always going to get issues no matter what the result, and it doesn't matter to me since I cap each week, but this is the exact issue people had with leves when you used to have 12 a day and it didn't roll over, they changed it and most people probably have 99 leve allowance, after a bit of time everyone will probably sitting above the cap except people who play everyday, this would stop the feel of obligation to log in for people and hit cap which yoshi said he was trying to prevent by putting in a smaller cap to begin with.

And your examples is only an issue by the 600 seals which isn't a lot when you think of the life of the game of you playing when you think by the time you have geared a couple of classes 6000 seals needed 600 is hardly a lot.

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Originally Posted by Eruantien

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Yes, because why would we want people to feel like they have to log into a game they're paying monthly for?

And people not logging in for 2-3 weeks in a row because "their seals will roll over anyway" IS a big deal for the life of the game. The entire POINT of these lockouts(loot limits in CT, run limits in Coil, Myth Tome caps) is to keep people playing the game despite its currently limited content.

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Originally Posted by FMElan

Okay, so let's see if I get this straight.

You pay for 3 months in a row, play and reach 50 in the first, let's say two weeks. Let's assume that your "rollover tomes" only activate when you hit 50 and complete the main scenario. After that, you leave town/your computer crashes/you're stuck on a deserted island and you don't come back to the game for two months.

Now, let's say a month after you left, someone buys the game. They, like you, purchase a 90 day subscription, get to 50 and complete the main scenario in two weeks. After that, they continue playing the game, every single day, for the next month.

So you've returned from whatever was keeping you away from the game. Are you honestly telling me that you're entitled to earn more Mythology than person B, simply because you started playing the game earlier?

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The suggestion for myth rollovers is nothing more than personal greed and envy.

You play the Game - You get rewareded. You dont play the Game - you dont get rewareded. This is how MMOs work.

I like the principle but how is this any different to someone who's just started playing? Are they also always going to be behind? I've just hit 49 and I'm fine, sure all the original players are streets ahead in terms of gear, but I'll get there - in my own time :)

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Originally Posted by FMElan

Yes, because why would we want people to feel like they have to log into a game they're paying monthly for?

And people not logging in for 2-3 weeks in a row because "their seals will roll over anyway" IS a big deal for the life of the game. The entire POINT of these lockouts(loot limits in CT, run limits in Coil, Myth Tome caps) is to keep people playing the game despite its currently limited content.

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Then why was it changed for guild leves?

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Originally Posted by Hanabira

In his example, he said that the second person started a month later but actively played the whole time.. so in his example, yes, person A (who left the game for whatever reason) would have more myths because of the rollover simply because they had an account longer. that isn't fair to someone who has been actively playing. If you cant play the game, you cant play the game. end of story.

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So it's not fair to the player who bought the game later? Really? He wasn't paying for it before then. Really, player A misses 2 months but continues to pay his subscription. He would not be able to earn tomes with any less effort than player B. Whether he runs 80 times in 8 weeks, or 80 times in one week, he would still have to spend the same amount of time doing the runs if he wants to catch up. I certainly wouldn't want to attempt 80 runs in one week. But if someone wants to, more power to them.

Player A, knowing he will be gone for two months could simply let his sub expire and get nothing. But if he chooses to continue paying while not playing, shouldn't there be some sort of compensation for that? And player B, exactly how is it not fair to him because he bought the game later? Player A is probably a totally irrelevant person to him and doesn't effect Player B's game at all. And I doubt Player B would be complaining if he wanted to take a vacation and could make up his tomes later.

1 myth per day, 30 every month, they are deleted @ end of the month if the player doesn't log in atleast once during that month

if a player logs in more then once in 1 month, it disables this feature & any myths earned using said feature are deleted, only way to retain the myths earned is to head to the mog station and accept them from there plus a "fee"(myths)





^ only way i will accept the advantage and the idiocy of rewarding people who don't even play

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Originally Posted by Ptolemy

1 myth per day, 30 every month, they are deleted @ end of the month if the player doesn't log in atleast once during that month

if a player logs in more then once in 1 month, it disables this feature & any myths earned using said feature are deleted, only way to retain the myths earned is to head to the mog station and accept them from there plus a "fee"(myths)





^ only way i will accept the advantage and the idiocy of rewarding people who don't even play

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Which will solve absolutely nothing. I'm sure people will take 10 seconds to log in and out to disable that.

you won't fall behind..new players starting way later can still earn their gear and run dungeons

people probably think AK & WP are too hard so they want free tomes. you dont have to cap your myth tomes on monday you have 7 days to do it.

i know for a fact alot of people been failing on the pudding boss in WP and thats way easier then AK, because when i queue in DF im always coming into a party at that point.

I can't believe some people still don't understand what the OP is asking for, like the little gem that is post #60. I will say it again (not like it needs to be said) NOBODY IS ASKING FOR FREE TOMES, THAT'S RIGHT, NOBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is that now clear?

The OP is asking for the opportunity to EARN Tomes at a time that is more convenient to his lifestyle. This is what most companies in the world do, they're flexible to the needs of their customers. Those that aren't, fail.

It is understood that to be fair to everyone you would only have roll over tomes if you've kept up your paid subscription. So we have a situation where someone is paying for the game, wants to play the game but can't because of RL. This is perfectly understandable and all they are asking for is to be thrown a bone and given the opportunity to earn tomes when they get the chance. They are not asking to be able to earn more than a player who plays everyday, they're not asking to be given them. They simply want to be able to play when they get the chance, weekly limits are counter productive to that and a slight tweak would make a big difference.

Thank you.

These are the OF, what do you expect mang

Like said earlier, I don't mind this kind of system. Good luck catching up on 2,400 myth tomes after a 2 month absence.

I think its fine the way it is. People who can play each week should be rewarded. Someone shouldn't be able to not play for a few months, then catch up in a couple days to someone who has been actively playing all those weeks.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

I think its fine the way it is. People who can play each week should be rewarded. Someone shouldn't be able to not play for a few months, then catch up in a couple days to someone who has been actively playing all those weeks.

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Lets say this system that they are talking about is active. You are gone 2 months and then come back to have your myth cap sitting at 2,400. How many WP runs do you think you can take before you lose your sanity? Or are you talking about the principle of the matter?

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Originally Posted by Artemiz

I can't believe some people still don't understand what the OP is asking for, like the little gem that is post #60. I will say it again (not like it needs to be said) NOBODY IS ASKING FOR FREE TOMES, THAT'S RIGHT, NOBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is that now clear?

The OP is asking for the opportunity to EARN Tomes at a time that is more convenient to his lifestyle. This is what most companies in the world do, they're flexible to the needs of their customers. Those that aren't, fail.

It is understood that to be fair to everyone you would only have roll over tomes if you've kept up your paid subscription. So we have a situation where someone is paying for the game, wants to play the game but can't because of RL. This is perfectly understandable and all they are asking for is to be thrown a bone and given the opportunity to earn tomes when they get the chance. They are not asking to be able to earn more than a player who plays everyday, they're not asking to be given them. They simply want to be able to play when they get the chance, weekly limits are counter productive to that and a slight tweak would make a big difference.

Thank you.

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the only way you'll EARN the tomes, is by actually playing the game like everyone else, regardless of how you put it, this "roll-over" essentially gives the player who was away for a period of time more of leeway then a normal player that has been here the whole time


can you honestly agree that giving someone that has been gone for months, the ability to earn 2k+ tomes in a week, when a normal player that has been here the whole time could only get 300 per is fair?


regardless of the cap, that much of a boost to someone that hasn't played for months is hardly fair for anyone

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Originally Posted by Ptolemy

the only way you'll EARN the tomes, is by actually playing the game like everyone else, regardless of how you put it, this "roll-over" essentially gives the player who was away for a period of time more of leeway then a normal player that has been here the whole time

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But you would still have to do the runs, so you would be "playing the game like everyone else" People are already saying this is a Monday only game and they play for 2-3 hours and then log off for the rest of the week. How is that more deserving than someone who puts in 5-6 hours a day for a week when they have the chance? What matters to me is that they do the same work for the same reward, I wouldn't support doubling up tomes per run for example. You would still have to do 10 runs for 1000/300 tomes, nobody would be working harder than anyone else.

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Originally Posted by Ptolemy

can you honestly agree that giving someone that has been gone for months, the ability to earn 2k+ tomes in a week, when a normal player that has been here the whole time could only get 300 per is fair?

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Months? no, not really, there would have to be a limit to how many tomes could be stored, I wouldn't have a problem with 3-4 weeks worth a bit like leves.

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Originally Posted by Ptolemy

regardless of the cap, that much of a boost to someone that hasn't played for months is hardly fair for anyone

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Months is too much as I agreed above but if they're still paying for the game and have to earn tomes at the same rate I wouldn't consider it unfair.

You earn your tomes by logging in for the whole 2 hours it takes to get your 300 to hit the cap. if you arent there, then tough. no game should implement a system that encourages not playing. No one would log in if all they had to do was show up the 3rd weekend of every month and grind out WP and get equal gear as people who played the entire time. where did this idea come from that because you cant play, the game should make it easier for you. This idea works nowhere else, if you miss the bus, you wait for the next one. It isnt a matter of paying the same amount, its a matter of who was actually playing the game after they paid it.

What are you people going to do when myth gear is outdated and you cant burn wp to get the best stuff anymore? When the game actually requires you to do something of a reasonable difficulty to get the best items?
Myths was the biggest mistake this game has made, how does it make sense at all to earn lv.55, 70 AND lv.90 gear at the same time in the same dungeon??
Its bad enough that you have to do practically nothing to earn the highest level gear in the game, but now you want it to wrap around your schedule? When people heard that allagan weapons were getting put to 95, everyone cried that the HARDEST encounter in the game gave a better weapon than that wuss titan + waiting 3 weeks (or not waiting at all if they already had the points) gave. just ridiculous. why should anyone do anything if you can earn the best stuff by running 10 minute dungeons. I didnt realize this was Final Fantasy: Wanderers Palace.

If your subscription fee means that much to you, then you should be playing. like i said before, if you spent half as much time getting myths as you do crying on forums that you dont have time to get myths, youd have your myths.

There shouldn't be any Tomes IMO.

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Originally Posted by Ri_ri

There shouldn't be any Tomes IMO.

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There should be tomes, but they shouldnt be available outside of binding coil. Most people want token systems because the thrill of the chase is too cumbersome now apparently. The tomes should give armor close to quality of the dungeon it comes from as a tip of the hat to people having bad luck. But in no other game are the tokens for the highest level equipment earned by running the easiest dungeon in the game. you can run 3 WP in the time it takes to run 1 copperbell. Not sure where this expectation came from.

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Originally Posted by shumakiso

OP Post!

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I have to disagree, this game is already to casual friendly. ilvl90 gear is not needed for anything currently in game aside maybe making Turn 5 easier.
And with a possible cap increase, you can catch up in some manner then.
MMOs have always been favourable to people who can afford a lot of time to sink into it. aAlso there will always be an influx of new players over the first few years of the games life.
If people are stopping you from doing certain raids outside of Bahamuts Coil because you don't have ilvl90, Then you need to find better people to raid with.
heck some jobs can manage Turns 1-3 with ilvl70.

tl/dr Take your time, no need to rush. there will always be people in you're level range for years to come yet.

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Originally Posted by Ptolemy

can you honestly agree that giving someone that has been gone for months, the ability to earn 2k+ tomes in a week, when a normal player that has been here the whole time could only get 300 per is fair?

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Ok, one player plays straight for 8 weeks and earns 2400 myth tomes (assuming he is spending it). Another player is absent but still paying for those same 8 weeks. There is still a hard cap of 2000, so he will only be able to make up that much. The rollover concept is simply earning credits, that can only be achieved by doing the runs. Lets say an average WP run of 20 minutes x 80 runs = nearly 27 hrs spent tome grinding. That same 27 hrs would have to be spent either spread out over 8 weeks, or all in one week if a person can do it that way. How is that "not playing"?

3 weeks should be fine imo. Each week the cap increases by 300 (or the new cap) but for every cap point, the next cap decreases. So like:

-dont play until cap is 0/900 (3 weeks of not toming)
-play and get 320/900
-next week the cap is 0/600
-play and get 550/600
-next week the cap is 0/300

or

-dont play until cap is 0/900
-play and get 700
-next week the cap is 0/300

or
-dont play

Basically allow a player to miss 3 weeks of playing but let him try to catch up if he really wants to. He's still gonna have to grind seriously hard to make up for 'lost time'.

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Originally Posted by Brises

Ok, one player plays straight for 8 weeks and earns 2400 myth tomes (assuming he is spending it). Another player is absent but still paying for those same 8 weeks. There is still a hard cap of 2000, so he will only be able to make up that much. The rollover concept is simply earning credits, that can only be achieved by doing the runs. Lets say an average WP run of 20 minutes x 80 runs = nearly 27 hrs spent tome grinding. That same 27 hrs would have to be spent either spread out over 8 weeks, or all in one week if a person can do it that way. How is that "not playing"?

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If the money he spent on that month was so important, he would have played the game. With this system, no one has any reason to log in except once every 7 weeks to burn the same dungeon over and over. That is not a good way to retain members. If you show up the day after a week long sale, do you feel entitled to the cheaper prices the people that showed up on time got?

People seem to keep using "we paid the subscription we should get the points" as a reason for this.. i mean really.. if thats why you feel entitled to everything, why dont you just ask SE to sell you myths?

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Originally Posted by Hanabira

You earn your tomes by logging in for the whole 2 hours it takes to get your 300 to hit the cap. if you arent there, then tough. no game should implement a system that encourages not playing. No one would log in if all they had to do was show up the 3rd weekend of every month and grind out WP and get equal gear as people who played the entire time. where did this idea come from that because you cant play, the game should make it easier for you. This idea works nowhere else, if you miss the bus, you wait for the next one. It isnt a matter of paying the same amount, its a matter of who was actually playing the game after they paid it.

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Could you explain to me how leves work then please? You can cap them over several weeks and burn them all at once so why is that not a problem? Also, lots of things use roll over type concepts, ever watched catch up TV? ever had a mobile phone contract? ever done a leve?

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Originally Posted by Hanabira

What are you people going to do when myth gear is outdated and you cant burn wp to get the best stuff anymore? When the game actually requires you to do something of a reasonable difficulty to get the best items?
Myths was the biggest mistake this game has made, how does it make sense at all to earn lv.55, 70 AND lv.90 gear at the same time in the same dungeon??
Its bad enough that you have to do practically nothing to earn the highest level gear in the game, but now you want it to wrap around your schedule? When people heard that allagan weapons were getting put to 95, everyone cried that the HARDEST encounter in the game gave a better weapon than that wuss titan + waiting 3 weeks (or not waiting at all if they already had the points) gave. just ridiculous. why should anyone do anything if you can earn the best stuff by running 10 minute dungeons. I didnt realize this was Final Fantasy: Wanderers Palace.

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We get it, you're super good at the game and all that, no seriously, you're amazing and stuff but if you're going to suggest people suck because they suggest something about the game then can you at least be creative? this kind of elistist crap gets boring, ta.

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Originally Posted by Hanabira

If your subscription fee means that much to you, then you should be playing. like i said before, if you spent half as much time getting myths as you do crying on forums that you dont have time to get myths, youd have your myths.

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What are people who work shifts supposed to do? cancel it every week?
And no, before you suggest it I'm not getting another job because it suits myth farming better....

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Originally Posted by Artemiz

Could you explain to me how leves work then please? You can cap them over several weeks and burn them all at once so why is that not a problem? Also, lots of things use roll over type concepts, ever watched catch up TV? ever had a mobile phone contract? ever done a leve?


We get it, you're super good at the game and all that, no seriously, you're amazing and stuff but if you're going to suggest people suck because they suggest something about the game then can you at least be creative? this kind of elistist crap gets boring, ta.


What are people who work shifts supposed to do? cancel it every week?
And no, before you suggest it I'm not getting another job because it suits myth farming better....

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1. Leves awards EXP, not iLvl 90 gear

2. I have to agree that making Myth gear on equal footing as Allagans seems rather strange but I'm pretty certain Allagan gears will be getting a buff in the upcoming patches.

3. Even those who work shifts does have free time; the game cannot possibly take into account the individual circumstances of players and sculpt their game model to fit and benefit them all without bringing dis-benefit to others, the subscription you've paid is for the time allocated, how you choose to utilise said time is entirely to your own discretion, the subscription is not to guarantee that your gear or your character is on equal footing as everyone else.

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Originally Posted by ReiszRie

1. Leves awards EXP, not iLvl 90 gear

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Personally I still don't see the difference, it's still progression but really it's besides the point, it was a response to the suggestion that nothing works with a roll over concept, leves shoot that argument straight into the ground.

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Originally Posted by ReiszRie

2. I have to agree that making Myth gear on equal footing as Allagans seems rather strange but I'm pretty certain Allagan gears will be getting a buff in the upcoming patches.

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Who knows what they're going to do with myth stones in the future but you could well be right, the only thing I'm sure of is that crafted gear won't be the best.

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Originally Posted by ReiszRie

3. Even those who work shifts does have free time; the game cannot possibly take into account the individual circumstances of players and sculpt their game model to fit and benefit them all without bringing dis-benefit to others, the subscription you've paid is for the time allocated, how you choose to utilise said time is entirely to your own discretion, the subscription is not to guarantee that your gear or your character is on equal footing as everyone else.

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I may not agree with this but I do respect your opinion and thanks for giving it like an adult.

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Originally Posted by Hanabira

If the money he spent on that month was so important, he would have played the game.

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The point of the OP was being called away for military duty for 2 months at a time. That's hardly something that you can decide to "just play" instead.

Ok so, you know you are going to miss 2 months, so just let your sub expire, and renew later, right? Well, SE made this game so they can make money. Whatever anyone wants to say about the credibility and integrity of MMOs and yadda yadda, they developed the game in a way to appeal to customers so they will spend money. Now I'm sure SE would prefer that people maintain their subs, even if they have to take time off. Right now there is no reason for anyone to do that. So it wouldn't surprise me if SE came up with some sort of incentive for people to continue paying.

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Originally Posted by Brises

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Exactly, it's a good idea no matter what the product is for it to be flexible to it's customers needs. Modern life and all that.

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Originally Posted by Brises

The point of the OP was being called away for military duty for 2 months at a time. That's hardly something that you can decide to "just play" instead.

Ok so, you know you are going to miss 2 months, so just let your sub expire, and renew later, right? Well, SE made this game so they can make money. Whatever anyone wants to say about the credibility and integrity of MMOs and yadda yadda, they developed the game in a way to appeal to customers so they will spend money. Now I'm sure SE would prefer that people maintain their subs, even if they have to take time off. Right now there is no reason for anyone to do that..

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When they get back from active duty, should SE also put the week long game event back on because they weren't there? If people would honestly quit a game because there points didn't keep ticking when they werent playing, then they have issues deeper than this game. I dont know of any other games that have this sort of system in place to help people who arent playing the game earn the strongest gear in the game, so why is it all of a sudden a deal breaker for this theoretical butthurt "mad at the world didnt halt at his feet" soldier?

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Originally Posted by Hanabira

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It's not about someone rage quiting, the argument is that the person in question has no reason to sub for 2 months if they can't play, so should unsub and SE lose revenue. If there was an incentive, like discussed in this thread the player may just keep his sub active and SE gets their money. It makes better buisiness sense to at least have an incentive for players to do that.