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05-26-2011, 02:46 AM
Kilta_Firelotus

holy cow........ jeez guys. Going a tad far there. Fyi, most of yall should take when it comes to posts. a good % of most of everyones here is starting with me over mine. Even though i do not give a crap about it. And personally find these medals tacky.
05-26-2011, 04:52 AM
Kallera

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

holy cow........ jeez guys. Going a tad far there. Fyi, most of yall should take when it comes to posts. a good % of most of everyones here is starting with me over mine. Even though i do not give a crap about it. And personally find these medals tacky.

Sure, Ms. Two gold medals. They are tacky now. But, once they expand on it, you'll be more decked out than Patraeus!

Why the sheer weight of your posts alone would torment a modem connection! And Bayonhe will be powerless to resist the shiny! (Morbols are attracted to shiny stuff, don't ask how I know this.)
05-26-2011, 07:00 AM
Nuru

I would think maybe it has something with the amount of word you type.

IN CAPS!

nah...
05-26-2011, 07:52 AM
Verecund

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Originally Posted by Rau

Kilta Firelotus is going to be the Five-Star general of the boards o.o

Wow you beat me to it >.>
06-01-2011, 03:57 AM
Rentahamster

Seriously, change the critera for how you award medals. Having a system where you get rewarded for how many posts you make regardless of whether your content is good or crap is a horrible incentive.

Unironically enough, that same broken reward scheme is present in much of the game too...
06-01-2011, 04:05 AM
northernsky

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Seriously, change the critera for how you award medals. Having a system where you get rewarded for how many posts you make regardless of whether your content is good or crap is a horrible incentive.

Unironically enough, that same broken reward scheme is present in much of the game too...

So what do you propose?
Number of likes? Directly correlated to the number of posts.
% of likes per post? Favors trolling as there is always a bunch liking troll posts and there is no dislike to counter balance.
And please no dislike button.
06-01-2011, 04:08 AM
Rentahamster

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Originally Posted by northernsky

So what do you propose?

Get rid of the medals.

Get rid of the visible post count.
06-01-2011, 04:22 AM
northernsky

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Get rid of the medals.

Get rid of the visible post count.

Entirely agreed.
06-01-2011, 04:27 AM
Firon

Who cares about the medals they don't do anything for you but show how much you frequent the forums based on your post count.
06-01-2011, 04:28 AM
Rentahamster

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Originally Posted by Firon

Who cares about the medals they don't do anything for you but show how much you frequent the forums based on your post count.

And it rewards people for spamming pointless garbage, which is a bad thing.
06-01-2011, 04:29 AM
Sonic_the_Hedgehog

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

And it rewards people for spamming pointless garbage, which is a bad thing.

Do you have proof of this?
06-01-2011, 04:31 AM
northernsky

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

Do you have proof of this?

Are you serious?
06-01-2011, 04:32 AM
Firon

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

And it rewards people for spamming pointless garbage, which is a bad thing.

What do these medals reward? Nothing i don't see anyone getting anything for posting except some fkin 8-bit medals yeah im gonna go crazy cause someone has more 8-bit medals than me lolz
06-01-2011, 04:35 AM
Sonic_the_Hedgehog

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Originally Posted by northernsky

Are you serious?

Not really, but I was trying to make a point. I haven't seen any kind of post spamming, just because certain people make horrible posts or posts you don't agree with doesn't mean they're trying to up their post count. Sites like ZAM that use a star system, have no problems.
06-01-2011, 04:44 AM
northernsky

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

Not really, but I was trying to make a point. I haven't seen any kind of post spamming, just because certain people make horrible posts or posts you don't agree with doesn't mean they're trying to up their post count. Sites like ZAM that use a star system, have no problems.

Well the point was that it "rewards" spamming , which is the case(if you consider ribbons like a reward lol), but you're right, it does not mean that spamming would necessarily increase due to ribbons.

Anyway if they are to tweak some features on the forums I would prefer a real 'ignore" function, not one that takes more space than the actual post when said poster writes in a thread. Just make it that it's like the people on my ignore list don't even exist, so I don't see any of their posts, threads, posts replying to them.
06-01-2011, 07:06 AM
Mack

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

Not really, but I was trying to make a point. I haven't seen any kind of post spamming, just because certain people make horrible posts or posts you don't agree with doesn't mean they're trying to up their post count. Sites like ZAM that use a star system, have no problems.

ZAM has a rating system which is more important than the post system, so they contrast one another. If you're gonna spam aimlessly you'll most likely get rated down, most people will look at your title rather than your star level. This system here does reward spamming. Who cares anyway?
06-01-2011, 04:19 PM
Rentahamster

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Originally Posted by Gildrein

Medallion icon will now be granted depending on the number of "Like!" player has received.

lmao. Well, at least that's better than getting medals for an inflated post count...
06-01-2011, 04:32 PM
Rentahamster

Hmm...although at second glance, the medals are still the same from before...Nothing has changed.

I'm guessing that they still need to reset everyone's medals back to zero.
06-01-2011, 04:34 PM
Sonic_the_Hedgehog

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

lmao. Well, at least that's better than getting medals for an inflated post count...

Now some people have an inflated medal count, like yourself, due to your environment poll.
06-01-2011, 04:35 PM
Sonic_the_Hedgehog

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Hmm...although at second glance, the medals are still the same from before...Nothing has changed.

I'm guessing that they still need to reset everyone's medals back to zero.

Actually your post, 57, has two golds and 4 silvers whereas post 58 has only one gold and 4 silvers. So I guess it's somewhat working? lol

EDIT: Never mind, now they both have two golds and four silvers.
06-01-2011, 04:36 PM
Rentahamster

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

Now some people have an inflated medal count, like yourself, due to your environment poll.

Gee no kidding. :rolleyes:

That's why I warned against doing that very thing way back in the beginning of this thread.

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Yeah, this would be a better idea. Right now, the medals are redundant. We already can see post count via the actual "post count" counter. It also gives the false impression that more posts = better poster, when we all know that that is not necessarily the case.

Many of the best comments that I've read so far have been by members with low post counts.

One thing, though - if we were to change it so that medals are an indicator of how many "likes" on has gotten, this could still be abused. For example, in one of my threads, I had a makeshift "poll" which was gauged by how many likes each option got. This would artificially inflate my like count. ( http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Zones-Variety )

And that's also why I recommended the following:

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Get rid of the medals.

Get rid of the visible post count.

Sheesh...
06-01-2011, 04:38 PM
Sonic_the_Hedgehog

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Gee no kidding. :rolleyes:

That's why I warned against doing that very thing way back in the beginning of this thread.

And that's also why I recommended the following:

Sheesh...

Yeah I know what you said, it bares repeating. Anyway I wasn't trying to be rude. Sorry if you're upset.
06-01-2011, 04:45 PM
Rentahamster

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

Yeah I know what you said, it bares repeating. Anyway I wasn't trying to be rude. Sorry if you're upset.

Oh, OK. For a second it sounded like you were insinuating that this was the change that I wanted just so that I could have more medals or something. I'm sorry too for overreacting.

IMO, superficial stuff like post count, rating, karma, and signatures are totally irrelevant to fostering good forum discussion.

I guess the "like" system is good for this forum, however, since it IS all about user feedback and gauging the will of the users, after all.

Other than that, the only thing you really need is a proper avatar system, so that users can establish a unique identity.
06-01-2011, 05:45 PM
Cairdeas

Bwahahaha

This is seriously humorous.

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Medallion icon will now be granted depending on the number of "Like!" player has received.

That doesn't say they don't give them for posts count anymore. So its probably a mix of both now.
06-01-2011, 06:13 PM
Blair

Wow, they just find another way to keep you pay !
06-02-2011, 05:44 PM
Rentahamster

Hmm...if there are no medals above a person's name, does that mean they are banned?

I don't see any medals above gifthorse's name. Or Kilta's. Or Kurokikaze.

Hmm... O.o
06-02-2011, 05:57 PM
Sonic_the_Hedgehog

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Hmm...if there are no medals above a person's name, does that mean they are banned?

I don't see any medals above gifthorse's name. Or Kilta's. Or Kurokikaze.

Hmm... O.o

That's what I think. Kurokikaze is banned for two weeks.
06-02-2011, 06:02 PM
Chrees

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Hmm...if there are no medals above a person's name, does that mean they are banned?

I don't see any medals above gifthorse's name. Or Kilta's. Or Kurokikaze.

Hmm... O.o

Aww...and here I was thinking that Kilta didn't have any medals because nobody ever liked her posts.
06-02-2011, 06:14 PM
Sephr

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Originally Posted by Chrees

Aww...and here I was thinking that Kilta didn't have any medals because nobody ever liked her posts.

No Kilta for two weeks, bombarding every thread as if she literally has nothing else to do? I'll enjoy it while it lasts.
06-02-2011, 06:23 PM
Bled

Are these medals going to become anything interesting?
06-02-2011, 06:55 PM
Felis

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Originally Posted by Blair

Wow, they just find another way to keep you pay !

What, who payed?
I'm paying maybe in the future, but I didn't pay today and the last months.

I don't mind the medals. They are a nice addition but not more.
I hope the avatar changes are coming soon (your ingame image as avatar)
06-02-2011, 07:02 PM
Rentahamster

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Originally Posted by Bled

Are these medals going to become anything interesting?

Well, according to yesterday's forum update, the medal-awarding algorithm changed so that you get medals based on how many "likes" you get, instead of how many posts.

But

I think they forgot to reset the overall medal count from before, so everyone still kept their post-count-based medals. What they need to do now, is to reset everyone's medals back to zero.

Or, just get rid of the medal system altogether.
06-02-2011, 07:19 PM
Bled

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Well, according to yesterday's forum update, the medal-awarding algorithm changed so that you get medals based on how many "likes" you get, instead of how many posts.

But

I think they forgot to reset the overall medal count from before, so everyone still kept their post-count-based medals. What they need to do now, is to reset everyone's medals back to zero.

Or, just get rid of the medal system altogether.

Would you happen to have the link?
06-02-2011, 07:41 PM
Rentahamster

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Originally Posted by Bled

Would you happen to have the link?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...068#post161068

Check the dev tracker, it always has the latest community rep posts (the ones that are important)
06-02-2011, 08:21 PM
Shikaree

Oh great, now they just went and made this into a popularity system.

WHY? I'm with the ditch the medal solution.
06-02-2011, 09:51 PM
Rentahamster

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Originally Posted by Shikaree

Oh great, now they just went and made this into a popularity system.

Well, at least it's a little better than how it was before - getting medals for making a ton of posts, regardless if what you're posting is good or not.
06-02-2011, 09:56 PM
Mug

Well as long there's no type of rate down option a la the Zam forums, I'm fine with how it is now.
06-02-2011, 09:58 PM
Cutriss

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Well, at least it's a little better than how it was before - getting medals for making a ton of posts, regardless if what you're posting is good or not.

Hey, if Kilta_Firelotus has zero medals now, I think the system appropriately represents things well enough.
06-02-2011, 10:05 PM
Rentahamster

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Originally Posted by Cutriss

Hey, if Kilta_Firelotus has zero medals now, I think the system appropriately represents things well enough.

That's because she got a temp ban. When she comes back, she'll have all her medals back ( I think).
06-02-2011, 10:15 PM
Cutriss

Ah, I was wondering if that's what happened, thanks.

Maybe next she can get a temp ban from my state.

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