Repair system discussion

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Uhm, no, it's not. Why should repairing have anything to do with the materia system?

repairing is relevant to all items other than underwear, whether they can be converted to materia or not.

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Because now there really isn't a point to repairing to 100% I can either dump on an NPC or destroy the item making it in to a materia... So it's a useless system to prevent an NPC from just repair the 1% more... It makes no sense, to put it simply I don't need my gear at 100% therefore I don't need a crafter to repair my items.

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Nothing would change except the NPC's give you 1% more at the click of a button as apposed to the mundane task of getting a player character to repair it.

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Lots of things would change. They want you to use player repairs in order to bring an item to saleable condition. Also, there's a significant cost difference, so you have to choose between NPC convenience and lower cost of player repairs.

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Because now there really isn't a point to repairing to 100%

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there is plenty of reason.

1) It's cheaper
2) You need it to be able to sell the item. You might be converting white items to materia, but most blues and greens can't be. Some of them however can be sold, and so you need the player repairs for that.

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I don't need my gear at 100% therefore I don't need a crafter to repair my items.

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Well, if you want to pay 10x more for repairs (depending on how you obtained the dark matter), that's your perogative. I for one don't like wasting money.

Here now answer me this, what is the difference in defense or attack between a piece or gear or weaponry that is either 99% or 100%. I haven't seen any difference and if there is I don't imagine it to be to much of a difference to make a difference in performance.

I think if they allowed repairs without the need to change classes it might be a little easier. Player repairs are nice because you can do it in the field, but it takes a lot of time change classes and repair everything one at a time.

They should have a "Repair All" button, that lets you repair everything that you are high enough to repair, and you should be able to do it without changing classes. I'm not saying any class should be able to repair anything, just that you shouldn't need to change classes. For example, if I have a 50LTW, and 50ARM, but I am on my 20LNC, I should be able to hit repair button and repair all Leather, and Armorer items at the same time without changing to those classes.

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Originally Posted by Liniont

Here now answer me this, what is the difference in defense or attack between a piece or gear or weaponry that is either 99% or 100%. I haven't seen any difference and if there is I don't imagine it to be to much of a difference to make a difference in performance.

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There is no difference until its 0%, then you get 0 stats.

I find the whole system a bit useless tbh! It is just a complete negative thing to me, i dont bother really finding repairs because the whole request repair is stupid, if i have couple items 0% but some at 98% the request puts them all up, so i loose out for 2%... Dumb, so I just go to NPC, the expensive is nothing to the amount to the amount I gain, its like 1% of a gil sink to me.

I wouldnt miss it if it was gone.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Uhm, no, it's not. Why should repairing have anything to do with the materia system?

repairing is relevant to all items other than underwear, whether they can be converted to materia or not.

Not everyone does guildleves all day. And in particular, I only do company leves right now for company seals. These leves give very little gil and NPC repairs would drain my coffers if I only used them. It's way cheaper to have a player do it. It can cost over 50k to NPC repair a full set of high level items. That's a lot unless you're a crafter selling multi-melded items for millions.

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you do realize that level 20 guild leves give out 4k - 8k and a level 50 can easily plow through several within minutes right? even if the repair cost is 5,000 gil a piece I'm still not in the negative because I have 99 leve attempts? 396,000 - 792,000 gil This doesn't even include the bonus gil for difficulty and speedy completion and if you take a break for a few days it will climb right back up to 99 leves why do you think the RMTs are doing Leves so much? The NPC repair cost has no effect on me there for giving me no more of an incentive to need a player character to give me 1 more measly percent.

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Originally Posted by Liniont

Answer me this, does an item need to be 100% to De-sythisize in to Materia? Because if not why repair it anyway?

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1. No, it don't need 100% to transform it into materia.
2. For resell

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Originally Posted by Liniont

I agree player repair needs to stay but there should just be an option. I know I can just leave the gear with my retainer so some crafter looking to level up can repair it. But that still a hassle and 9/10 it will sit there for days with no repair, so I don't waste my time anymore. There is no incentive and honestly even 200% isn't enough of an incentive to bother with player repair and if player repair added buffs it would then become a chore that elitist parties will absolutely require for optimal party play... I say just let both player and NPC repair to 100% and be done with it. This doesn't have to be made as complicated as it has been.

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You do it wrong
If you put the gear to repair in your retainer someone with the right crafting class need to visit the room your retainer is. But nowdays most people only visit the search corner. Put the gear to repair in your own bazaar, run through Ul'dah and shout for repair. And don't forget to mention the 5k gil reward.

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Originally Posted by viion

There is no difference until its 0%, then you get 0 stats.

I find the whole system a bit useless tbh! It is just a complete negative thing to me, i dont bother really finding repairs because the whole request repair is stupid, if i have couple items 0% but some at 98% the request puts them all up, so i loose out for 2%... Dumb, so I just go to NPC, the expensive is nothing to the amount to the amount I gain, its like 1% of a gil sink to me.

I wouldnt miss it if it was gone.

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I feel like the character player repair is also stupid. Why? Because I want to be able to repair to 100% at an NPC anytime I want, with a push of a single button. Sorry if I'm spoiled from WoW. What if I'm in the middle of a raid, and I have to run and rush back to my party and my equipment are at 0%? Do I have to shout, or call a friend, or call LS? Nobody would wait for me.

Also another experience: I woke up before work time, only had 10 minutes to sell my items, only to realize they need repaired. And I didn't have time to ask around for repair so I couldn't put up my items before I had to leave.

In WoW, I could bam one click repair all, and boom 8 items up at Auction House, before you can even say breakfast.

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Originally Posted by Felis

1. No, it don't need 100% to transform it into materia.
2. For resell

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There isn't much of an incentive to resell in the AH to be honest.

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Originally Posted by Liniont

There isn't much of an incentive to resell in the AH to be honest.

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Then don't resell
If you don't want to resell, the repair NPC is all what you need.