Mark of Tanaka

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Originally Posted by Aistaraina

I was expecting a catchier thread title.

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As a devoted tanaka hater I approve the title.

Been said many times before but I can't stop: For a patch that was supposed to act as the final little nudge that would convince the players to start paying a monthly fee 1.20 was almost a joke.

I seriously wonder: What kind of people is leading this game? How can they be so disconnected from the most basic consensus of what is fun and what is tedious in a videogame?

The fact that they need to make changes to the content barely a week after release is the worst part, seriously, because it means that the next morning after the patch the boss devs went into their little meeting room, gathered around a PC and waited while Yoshida loaded the boards then all screamed at once in genuine surprise "HOLY CRAP THEY HATED IT! WHAT WENT WRONG?".

Edit: Someone please make a fall of adolf parody of that. "All of those who haven't got the Ifrit weapon they want most please leave the room"


If they can't at least tell what most of the players are absolutely going to hate maybe they shouldn't be designing games.


It takes a genius to tell what everyone is gonna love but to tell what everyone will hate you only need common sense.

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Originally Posted by Rau

in a game that thrives on crafting, you kind of have to.

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"This ingredient that costs 50gil by npc which I might need someday? I can't throw it away, duh!"

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As a devoted tanaka hater I approve the title.

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I am glad that you decided to warn us ahead of time that only nonsense was going to be posted from this point onwards.

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Originally Posted by captainpicard

Yeah I don't really get it. Tedious & time consuming generally doesn't necessarily equate to fun. I have played this game quite a bit, and I had high hopes for 2.0 to really move the bar from where we are, and it may just do that. I am just concerned due to "recent" design decisions that have been made with the existing version that lead me to believe that the developer is saying "we've changed" but demonstrating "we haven't changed much"

It seems like for every foot forward, there are two or three backwards ;;

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Yeah, sometimes Yoshida's crew seems to completely forget why we asked for changes to the game. Eliminate stress, eliminate tedium (but don't give the rewards to us on a silver platter). However, Yoshida did make a dev post saying that they're going to fix the retarded requirements for the moogle fight, so cool your jets.

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Originally Posted by Ilean

I seriously wonder: What kind of people is leading this game? How can they be so disconnected from the most basic consensus of what is fun and what is tedious in a videogame?

The fact that they need to make changes to the content barely a week after release is the worst part, seriously, because it means that the next morning after the patch the boss devs went into their little meeting room, gathered around a PC and waited while Yoshida loaded the boards then all screamed at once in genuine surprise "HOLY CRAP THEY HATED IT! WHAT WENT WRONG?".


If they can't at least tell what most of the players are absolutely going to hate maybe they shouldn't be designing games.

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This mental image was funny. The thing is, do you genuinely think they make these terrible decisions with the best intentions, believing they are wise decisions? Or do you think a lot of this horrid choices are intentional to as some have said, extend the "content"?

I don't know which scares me more.

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Originally Posted by Bahn

However, Yoshida did make a dev post saying that they're going to fix the retarded requirements for the moogle fight, so cool your jets.

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But but but! But that only means that they didn't actually noticed how retarded they were until we told them!


And that's a worrying thought for anyone hoping to keep playing this game.

:(:(:(

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Originally Posted by captainpicard

This mental image was funny. The thing is, do you genuinely think they make these terrible decisions with the best intentions, believing they are wise decisions? Or do you think a lot of this horrid choices are intentional to as some have said, extend the "content"?

I don't know which scares me more.

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What scares me more is that they wouldn't give a damn.

A guaranteed way of alienating any customers you have in the long-term.

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Originally Posted by Ilean

But but but! But that only means that they didn't actually noticed how retarded they were until we told them!


And that's a worrying thought for anyone hoping to keep playing this game.

:(:(:(

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Exactly. It essentially means the power that be came together and said:

"Yep. This is brilliant. Excellent design choice. Please move this into the production environment."

You would expect that these design choices would never have even made the jump from concept to paper, much less paper to implementation - and there are a lot of those ? decisions being made across the last several patches.

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Originally Posted by captainpicard

This mental image was funny. The thing is, do you genuinely think they make these terrible decisions with the best intentions, believing they are wise decisions? Or do you think a lot of this horrid choices are intentional to as some have said, extend the "content"?

I don't know which scares me more.

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I think they make them out of dumbness and general ignorance of what their customers want.

Usually I would have guessed it was just the usual scumbag move of making the stick really long to keep us going longer after the carrot, but with the current population and the fact that they want us to start paying the two weeks from now I would have thought they would rather not push it...

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Originally Posted by Ilean

I think they make them out of dumbness and general ignorance.

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Exactly.


Oh, you didn't mean this thread? well, consistency is a good thing I guess.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Exactly.


Oh, you didn't mean this thread? well, consistency is a good thing I guess.

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:rolleyes:

Jesus mog exploiting Christ you really are just like the badger http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQE44ojeAso