Of course there were mice for PCs during the 80s. The problem was that the DOS shell made no use of the mouse. The few DOS Runtimes like edit.com and doshelp.com used the mouse but for the most part the left other buttons but the primary button unused. So thru out the 80s the mice was simply seen as an "optional" accessory... It wasn't until the early 90s with the release of windows 3.x that mice on the PC became a norm. And they always (or almost always) shipped with two button mice. Yet the Windows 3 shell (Program manager or progmon.exe as I recall) didn't take advantage of the second button.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thangil
The mouse revolution on PCs really did not begin until the release of Windows 95. I mean Doom supported the mouse... the first button fired your weapon and button 2 enabled sprint. Moving the mouse along the y axis would cause the player to move forward and back. Hence it wasn't terribly popular.
Well you could try using an Xbox 360 controller and see how that works for you. Indeed it's easier on the wrists which is why many people prefer them.Quote:
I prefer mice with two side buttons. In MMOs I usually program these for autorun and jump (if the game has jumping). I've never had problems configuring my mice in other games, so for me, this is pretty much a *must have* in FFXIV too, since I'm so used to it. At least, having to use the keyboard to move, is an absolute no-no in the long run, at least for me.
Full support for keyboard and mouse users - omg
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02-17-2012, 01:53 PMMeeYow
Necro Bump - ish, but if you want to run using mouse, click the scroll button. The steering isn't great though.
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02-28-2012, 10:04 AMbyyako
I am a computer gamer (wielding keyboard and mouse) I think the current UI could be fine with some very simple tweaks
1. The buttons being responsive and quick : The current ones lags a little bit
2. Having all configurations and settings putting into ONE window (maybe with different tab) so I dont have to look among all those text to find the option I need
3. Whats the point to have "inventory" "gear" and "bag" with three different entry points? Can they be combined and simplified?
4. Can I drag my macro button onto my Action bar? They are kind of the same thing to me and I don't know why I have to go to two places for it
5. Drag and right click? This is probably the most efficient way of interacting with a mouse in hand... It is just very odd when I see a treasure box on screen I have to go to my right menu to open it...
You see all of these really don't require that much of graphical change to the current UI... that the screen is still clean with a lot of viewable area. They just need to organize it in an simpler and smarter way...I admit I used to play FFXI for a very long time and I compromised myself to that odd interface but I am over that phase now, NO MORE ANNOYING "Dings" tabbing through endless menus please! -
02-28-2012, 11:09 PMJinkoDoesn't work for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MeeYow
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02-28-2012, 11:16 PMJinkoAgreeQuote:
Originally Posted by byyako
AgreeQuote:
2. Having all configurations and settings putting into ONE window (maybe with different tab) so I dont have to look among all those text to find the option I need
This will be changed in 2.0 we will be getting 5 seperate inventory bags like standard MMO's which you can open by clicking on by mouse.Quote:
3. Whats the point to have "inventory" "gear" and "bag" with three different entry points? Can they be combined and simplified?
This is coming in 2.0 alsoQuote:
4. Can I drag my macro button onto my Action bar? They are kind of the same thing to me and I don't know why I have to go to two places for it
Coming in 2.0 also, although you can already click on a treasure box to open it.Quote:
5. Drag and right click? This is probably the most efficient way of interacting with a mouse in hand... It is just very odd when I see a treasure box on screen I have to go to my right menu to open it...
The current UI is being changed to a seperate UI for PC players as follows.Quote:
You see all of these really don't require that much of graphical change to the current UI... that the screen is still clean with a lot of viewable area. They just need to organize it in an simpler and smarter way...I admit I used to play FFXI for a very long time and I compromised myself to that odd interface but I am over that phase now, NO MORE ANNOYING "Dings" tabbing through endless menus please!
User Interface- Complete redesign of user interface for version 2.0 currently underway. PDF
- Customization of both gamepad/keyboard and mouse/keyboard configurations. PDF
- Global standard for MMO UI when using mouse/keyboard to navigate in-game windows. Will not require a manual for explanation. PDF
- Drag and drop functionality, item name/icon display toggle to be added to gear interface. PDF
- Release of a "mannequin" system for one-touch changing of gear sets. PDF
- Gear equipped to mannequins will not take up inventory space. PDF
- Mannequins available can be increased via certain quests and battle content. PDF
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02-29-2012, 04:52 AMbyyako
I can't wait :)