You can look WM and BRD from this perspective.

people say bards had a playstyle. they didnt they were just easy sit in the back faceroll things. now people actually have to think about what they want to do :) and in all honesty it made no sense for a bard to shoot arrows like a machine gun while jumping around i thought people had to aim bows and such

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Originally Posted by Tigra

people say bards had a playstyle. they didnt they were just easy sit in the back faceroll things. now people actually have to think about what they want to do :) and in all honesty it made no sense for a bard to shoot arrows like a machine gun while jumping around i thought people had to aim bows and such

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...I must ask where does this logic come from? What type of critical thinking skills that you must have, to come to this conclusion? It was "easy" so there was no play style. I guess if you feel this way, I can understand why you feel it requires a lot of thinking needed to use wm.

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Originally Posted by Gallus

That's precisely what I don't understand. I'm banging my head on the wall trying to figure out what was exactly fun about this job. BRD had 4 GCD skills, straight shot, 2 dots and heavy shot. Your entire rotation consisted on 4 buttons. All you had to was weave your buffs, bloodletters, misery's end and if you really were serious about it repelling shot and blunt arrow between your 4 GCD skills. It was a job that literally took 3 days to min max.
Where's this fun factor you speak of?

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I mean I'm not exactly against Minuet but bards had 10 OGCD skills in addition to those GCDs so you're argument is kinda' worthless and misleading, as well as spreading misinformation. You should probably think before you post in the future.

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...I must ask where does this logic come from? What type of critical thinking skills that you must have, to come to this conclusion? It was "easy" so there was no play style. I guess if you feel this way, I can understand why you feel it requires a lot of thinking needed to use wm.

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It comes from the same place as all the other unfounded bard hate: straight from the poster's back end. "hurr a durr legolas jumping spam brainless faceroll!" They don't have anything to back it up, because it's all hyperbole at worst, and anecdote at best.

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I mean I'm not exactly against Minuet but bards had 10 OGCD skills in addition to those GCDs so you're argument is kinda' worthless and misleading, as well as spreading misinformation. You should probably think before you post in the future.

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Not spreading misinformation, single target wise it was exactly as I described (which is BRD in 90% of the relevant scenarios). For trash pulls (and the rarely bunch of mobs from certain coil turns), it was as hard as spamming wide volley with the occasional rain of death. Counting Ballad, Paeon and Foe as GCD skills from a BRD's actual rotation? Might as well say that protect is part of a WHM's rotation.

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It comes from the same place as all the other unfounded bard hate: straight from the poster's back end. "hurr a durr legolas jumping spam brainless faceroll!" They don't have anything to back it up, because it's all hyperbole at worst, and anecdote at best.

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Not a hate thread at all. BRD never looked interesting on my book. It looks interesting now. I think people should honestly give it a try.

And your logic is to result to personal attacks instead of debunking their claim. Well we all know the first rule of the internet: when you have no argument, ad hominem.

That was meant to be a quote to someone else but bleh phone posting

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Not a hate thread at all. BRD never looked interesting on my book. It looks interesting now. I think people should honestly give it a try.

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Did you see who I was quoting, and who they were quoting? I wasn't talking about your thread or you, but yet another person who has nothing to add to the conversation except insults against all bard players.

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Did you see who I was quoting, and who they were quoting? I wasn't talking about your thread or you, but yet another person who has nothing to add to the conversation except insults against all bard players.

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Saying that in my opinion BRD has been given a degree of complexity that makes it more interesting in 3.0 is insulting now?