Blue Mage and the Community have nothing to do with each other. The real reason Blue Mage won't work is how the armoury/class system works. Blue Mage would be stuck with the majority of base Class skills then only get 5 "Job" abilities, these quests would be the only 'classic' way of fighting monsters and learning the abilities from them. It wouldn't be RNG it wouldn't be anything near challenging, it would be just a small little 5 quest gate before you could do the relic weapons and etc. The battle system we currently have cannot support Blue Mage or Beastmaster the way people really want it too. It's like Al Bundy, you're trying to shoehorn a 9 into a 6..won't work.
Instead of asking them to reconsider Blue Mage, you should be asking them to reconsider battle/armoury/class system changes. And sadly none of that will come till 3.0 if we can believe that "changes a'coming" such as Summoner/Scholar changes.
Edit: The majority of spells/abilities Blue Mage could learn would be learned upon leveling.
Please reconsider stance on blue mage
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09-15-2014, 02:47 PMNoloeTazier
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09-15-2014, 02:47 PMmyahele
Excluding the base class I can see blue magic working similar to most Job quest where we learn an ability per 5 levels. Each quest will be go her, kill x tada! You learned x ability. It really isn't that difficult, all they need to do is think which monster attack they wanna use and how long the cooldown will be.
It certainly won't be the classic blue mage. Just like our SMN and BLM aren't quite like their classic counter parts. -
09-15-2014, 02:48 PMPrototype909
The armory system/3 role system is too simplistic for Blue Mage or any similarly complex/non-role locked class to exist in XIV.
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09-15-2014, 02:50 PMAltijacek
The only thing I can see is this: a blue Mage skill set tailor made for tanking, another made for healing, and a last for DPS. The system can detect which you have and give you a bonus for combining them, such as increased enmity for tanking variant, increased mind for healing variant, and increased damage for DPS variant. Lastly, instead of cross class skills, they get to pick and choose between ten entire abilities from the other thresholds, but those abilities wouldn't receive their buffs that they would from the main set of abilities :3
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09-15-2014, 02:50 PMLaerune
Do we realy want only 5 Blue Mage spells? If they are going to release a botched up job like the current Summoner, I rather have they don't release a complex job like Blue Mage.
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09-15-2014, 02:51 PMNalienJust because it has one role doesn't mean its skills have to stick to that. Do Titan-Egis skills stick to Summoners DPS role? Will Leviathan-Egis and Ramuh-Egis?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zumi
Did you read my post?Quote:
Originally Posted by Laerune
Summoner effectively gets additional skills through its pets; each pet has five skills to itself. Give Blue Mage a similar system, but Stances rather than Pets... If the Job only gets three Stances like Summoners three pets (although that's going to be five eventually) then that's still 15 skills. With Stances they can't even use the micromanaging excuse we get with Summoners Pets not being the focus; they'd just need to balance it out so Blue Mage having extra skills in this way doesn't overpower it in a party situation (since they clearly don't care about solo balance given Titan-Egi). -
09-15-2014, 02:52 PMVolsungQuote:
Originally Posted by NoloeTazier
No reason the base class couldn't learn spells form enemies, then the job masterQuote:
Originally Posted by Laerune
lets you in on the good stuff. "why are you a xclassherex boy? You could learn so
much more if you wanna learn the true ways of becoming a monster"
Hit the nail on the head. Just because it has some stuff that wont be pure DPS, doesntQuote:
Originally Posted by Nalien
mean it will have to affect its potency in the DPS role (assuming they choose DPS) -
09-15-2014, 02:58 PMLitheraSomeone else already mentioned how a large number of spells would work (pet hotbar style). Also look back on XI. Before BLU dropped in that game there were no jobs remotely similar. They created a system for BLU just like they did for PUP. Also SMN is fine...they did what they had to do to avoid SMN falling into the same pit as XIs pet jobs where they're useless without the pet. They could take DoTs away...add abilities/strength to the Egis..but then if the Egi dropped the SMN would be screwed. It would be XI's DRG all over again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laerune
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09-15-2014, 03:47 PMEarendur
Need to just wait on implementing BLU until 3.0, after the adjustment to combat/armor system. If they put it in now, it would turn out like BLM or SMN being very gimped and nothing like its true form. When 2.0 launched i was very disappointed in BLM not having a full elemental wheel, might as well call it a fire mage, because really thats all it is. And SMN, well im not sure what to call it other than a DOTer, summons are a joke in the design.
So it would be best just to leave it out for now until they move away from this easy go lucky charity case, open the world up, stop with the instances and put some danger, penalties and real challenges. Stop with the gimmicks and give the NPC/mobs a real A.I. -
09-15-2014, 04:08 PMDuelleNot the OP, but here's a suggestion on how it could work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crystallus
Even with the five ability limit, BLU is VERY possible.