I was kind of hoping that the class system redesign would be a little more dramatic than just solo mode vs party mode. Locking classes to one weapon is a recipe for disaster, as is keeping the old, boring, homogeneous classes is a recipe for disaster.
What does that have to do with anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenaku
My thoughts on Battle Reform {Jobs}
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07-01-2011, 02:37 PMWolfie
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07-01-2011, 03:02 PMProxThis is amusing considering how many complaints there are about SE not giving us updates on their plans lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Malakhim
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07-01-2011, 04:08 PMNefGPQuote:
Originally Posted by Cairdeas
That remains to be seen, but so far I have to say that this game is looking more and more like XI 2.0 and that's not a good thing. I find it hilarious how people keep saying not to assume Haste won't be absurdly broken like it is in XI... when we have the very same devs who ran XI for 8 years working on this game. It's not like there isn't a good precedent to base my assumptions on.
The Job system, as proposed, feels like a big gamble. It could turn out to be really cool, or it might be epic fail. At the very least it should make organizing parties easier. I kind of like the way it is now though, as it reminds me more of FFT where you could mix & match abilities of all the job classes.
What we're getting basically amounts to official builds of each class from SE, or at least that's how it looks. We won't know until the update for sure, but I'm remaining skeptical. -
07-01-2011, 11:20 PMCairdeasMy main character is not tied to this account. This account is tied to my original SE members account which is tied to my FFXI Account. It has an Active FFXIV character on it, but I have no need to display it and instead am using the character display to tell people I intend to play a Female Roegadyn once they are released. I do have a level 50 on my other FFXIV account, but even her I haven't played much lately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenaku
Thats odd, Because in FFT I had an army of white mages roving the countryside with axes and various sub skills. Could heal anyone from across the map and dish out massive damage.Quote:
as it reminds me more of FFT
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07-01-2011, 11:36 PMCorrderioI really wish Yoshida did go with that list instead of the job system. I know the jobs need some roles/exclusives but at the same time I like the freedom since you didn't need that "one class" to be in a party (Let's face it, even with level synth it was annoying searching constantly for a tank/healer). And it would be nice to bring some fresh/new ideas into the series instead of the tired and old things we've been given for the past 2 decades. I'd love to see staves/maces as an actual decent weapon instead of something that only mages usually use and then some.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cichy
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07-01-2011, 11:59 PMZenakuNoting it was a offtopic question.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfie
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07-02-2011, 12:00 AMSephrBecause that would've changed things. Honestly, you think of your own opinions far too highly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cairdeas
I like this system, it'll let me level up a class and have access to a lot of different content without having to keep starting over (after they've increased the number of jobs, that is).
I do agree that the current classes need to have more character, though. Currently they feel too similar, but I think we'll see that kind of thing fixed with new animations and abilities being shuffled around. -
07-02-2011, 12:42 AMMalakhimThey're pretty much in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, but they can mitigate damage if they use proper information dissemination. I think that one of the biggest problems is all the "we're looking into it" responses or playing coy with key details like answers to "Is 1-to-1 class/job permanent?" In the scenario of the latter, you can't not have any specific plans if you've already gotten that far into the dev stage, so really it shouldn't be that hard to give specific responses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prox
If it's a matter of corporate red tape(which I would hope isn't the case) then instead of trickling out details, wait until ALL the plans for whatever topic of interest are in the green for discussion. The wait will suck to be sure, but at least everything will be on the table and we can avoid unnecessary worry.
Example: MZ and a bunch of other people flipping their shit all over different threads all because of a few missing(but important) details. -
07-02-2011, 06:01 AMArasiel
Anyone who played Marauder during launch and equipped dark spells can kiss that sweet Dark Knight with a 2H sword goodbye. You get Marauder -> Dark Knight... Welcome to DRK with a 2H Axe. Having fun yet? No?
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07-02-2011, 06:22 AMShydMe too, i wish the "job system" would be like tatics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cairdeas
It was a good system, and it worked great.