I'd say the speed is that of "jogging" or even slower. and yes i can stop without doing 2-3 steps after each stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shougun
and i dont need it, other MMorpgs dont have it as well. just play it first and then start complain. because it will feel much more fluent im really that sure.
the more they reduce the laggy, the dull gameplay from the game im really fine with it. i fall asleep while playing FFXIV 1.0. after the years.. and they did good about it to reduce its slowlyness, the sluggish thing about it in EVERY point.
its like the people complained about downgraded charactergraphics... which wont come true like we saw in several videos now..
FFXIV people are so exhausting ;XD
hopefully yoshida wont listen to these voices this time. i want a new gaming experience and not FFXIV 1.0. anymore because some people seem not to be able to let 1.0. go.
and thats true.
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11-10-2012, 01:53 AMTonkra
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11-10-2012, 02:00 AMShougunEven a natural break in jogging is an extra step or so. If you really watch people break from a higher then walk movement they will usually lessen the forces to their knees by taking another step.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonkra
Most MMOs have low graphic dedication - Square Enix however loves to have great aesthetics which you cant have by neglecting things that dont form to gameplay. The attention to small details is required when you are going for that extra gold medal.
The character graphics did look like crap in that TGS trailer though lol. Obviously it was only a temporary aspect - its better to bitch now however instead of waiting till its too late.
Hey hey.. now that you made my cake.. go make it again! Rather than during the baking processes asking "Uhm.. I want a little more sugar preeez"
Of course how some people give their opinions could be better.
"Worst game ever, I hate this shit, SE is going to crash and burn" . . . We could do without that. -
11-10-2012, 02:07 AMElexiaThe mentality that will sign ARR's death. Doing things "just because of other MMOs" is why every new MMO happened to fail excludin exclusive problems like failing to recreate it properly or doing it to the exact letter than it's essentially a clone. This isn't the same like telling SE to learn what they did before XIV and make it better that's basically saying "X MMO doesn't do this so XIV shouldn't/X MMO does this so XIV should too."Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonkra
This has nothing to do with animations..why do people fail to grasp this? XIII and XIII-2 uses the same engine, those games were far from laggy. SE stated over and over, it's not the animations or graphics that made XIV 1.0 laggy and unresponsive, it was the core systems on an engine not designed for MMORPGs.Quote:
the more they reduce the laggy, the dull gameplay from the game im really fine with it
Yoshida is listening to the loudest group of players which aren't always right, just so you know. Let them do what they want to do. He's bringing the servers back online even though it serves NO purpose to do so all because A HANDFUL of people want them up.Quote:
hopefully yoshida wont listen to these voices this time
That speaks volumes about his stance on who he'll listen to. He's a smart guy, but clearly he'll cater to a bare minimum if he feels like it. The loudest minority are actually the players who have concerns about the game, whereas you have people that accepts anything and everything SE does without question.
It's ok to question certain things. It's ok to show concern. It's ok to complain.
I don't know why he uses real life examples to justify this stuff. He even justified the camera-character pivot direction change by real life standards.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Shougun
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11-10-2012, 02:07 AMTonkraim not caring about that blabla actually. because i want to have much smoother gameplay... the minimum that i can experience in other MMOrpgs.. and i think you just start complaing about it when you really concentrate on things like these..Quote:
Originally Posted by Shougun
well i think the game does not need those 2-3 extra tip tap steps.. really. my opinion.
i better take the much smoother gameplay than that. [you can have it]
well you do know that FFXI was designed like Everquest?Quote:
Originally Posted by Elexia
But anyways... i think FFXIV is its own game.. it does not look any WoWish at all, therefore the walking animations etc. are far superior still in contrast to that (even without extra tip taps).
its a game on his own.. limit break etc... nothing that other MMorpgs have.. i dont understand people saying SE isnt doing their "own stuff" right now.
its about the unfluent gameplay.. as yoshida stated these "extra tip taps" need about 1-2 seconds while in that time you cant perform any action. thats why they removed it. it would mostly be disturbing in pvp and boss battles . and i personally prefer a game to be fun, rather than complaining about 1-2 tip taps. just wait and see how it feels.Quote:
This has nothing to do with animations..why do people fail to grasp this? XIII and XIII-2 uses the same engine, those games were far from laggy. SE stated over and over, it's not the animations or graphics that made XIV 1.0 laggy and unresponsive, it was the core systems on an engine not designed for MMORPGs.
seriously you people cant let 1.0. go.
and if you ask me there are much more and important points that have to be changed.. they need to implement wandering npc's within the cities to be more lively.. and not these "tip taps". thats flaming on the highest (or silliest?) level.
you should really listen to yourself what you are talking about... complaining about "extra tip taps".
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11-10-2012, 02:14 AMValmonteThose Blue Dots Have to go <.<Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonkra
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11-10-2012, 02:19 AMValmontenot even fking close. it was built upon Everquests already established Core simply because of Everquest successfully being run on the PS2 at the time. the actual game couldn't have been farther from everquest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonkra
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11-10-2012, 02:23 AMElexiaNo I didn't know this despite Tanaka specifically stating FFXI was inspired by Everquest and designed around FFIII.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonkra
It sounds more like YOU can't let 1.0 go, because YOU are the one who is having issues here, not anyone else showing concern.Quote:
seriously you people cant let 1.0. go.
As Yoshida stated, the animations and graphics weren't causing the game to be laggy. As Tanaka stated, the engine wasn't suited for XIV and they made a mistake in using it. The "extra tip-taps" works fine in every other game on the planet because the game is on an engine that is designed to be efficient for that type of code. The Crystal Tools engine is a cinematic engine primarily for seamless transitions into gameplay from cutscenes, XIII is the perfect example of this.Quote:
as yoshida stated
Contradiction #1. Adding Lively NPCs requires more specific animations and script calls to them than a player does for "tip taps" as you put it.Quote:
and if you ask me there are much more and important points that have to be changed.. they need to implement wandering npc's within the cities to be more lively.. and not these "tip taps"
They removed certain animations for PvP reasons as they said straight out. They made a lot of changes for PvP.Quote:
it would mostly be disturbing in pvp and boss battles
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11-10-2012, 02:33 AMZakarnRosewood
I dont think it takes two full threads (could even be more) to mention the stopping animations. does it?
I think they get the point. its like reading the "questions for the Dev's" post and seeing the same things over and over. the distaste in animations is obvious by now. can we focus on something else, please? its "GRASS" all over again. -
11-10-2012, 02:37 AMIngolfI don't swivel to turn on the spot.Quote:
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Tonkra, please stop posting, every time you do you sound dumber. -
11-10-2012, 02:41 AMTonkra
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