Instead of cutting Ultimate from 5.5 why not cut bozja?

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Originally Posted by Steviejd

Another post making it out to be a hardcore versus casual thing and complaining about casual players... Oh joy.

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Another hardcore vs causal post because another casual player jumped in and repeated the same nonsense “yeah i know it’s disappointing but hey why are you so upset you know the game shouldnt cater to you minority”
when people complain no hat for Viera or no hildibrand how may hardcore would join the thread and post “i’m harcore player, you know not that many people care about the bunny hat, you should all stop being salty”?

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Originally Posted by MPK

These guys think people do ultimate solely for the rewards. I feel bad for these guys who will never feel the rush that you get for clearing content that may take months to prog :(

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You are right that is something I had never understand in over 20 years of MMO gaming. To me this stuff only feels like wasted lifetime with a lot of boring and frustrating moments. It doesn't feel rewarding and has more with unpaid work in common than anything else. So why wasting time with this stuff if there is an endless ocean of other fun things i can do? If I ever get the desire to punish myself i go to a BDSM club, at least the Dominas there look nice.

Even better solution: get rid of relic weapon.

As a casual player I wish they'd cut Bozja too.

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Originally Posted by Missbone

You are right that is something I had never understand in over 20 years of MMO gaming. To me this stuff only feels like wasted lifetime with a lot of boring and frustrating moments. It doesn't feel rewarding and has more with unpaid work in common than anything else. So why wasting time with this stuff if there is an endless ocean of other fun things i can do? If I ever get the desire to punish myself i go to a BDSM club, at least the Dominas there look nice.

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Because it's boring to a number of people?

'Endless ocean of other fun things to do.'

You mean like doing content where winning is inevitable and the challenge is barely there? Or glamming it up and AFKing someplace to show off that glam?

I'm not at all an Ultimate raider, but I understand the drive to do something that you personally view as tough. It's basic human nature to push the body or mind to that point because it genuinely is thrilling.

Why do you think Dark Souls is popular?

Why do you think that games have 'Savage' difficulty levels implemented?

Not everyone wants monotonous, normal quality 'it takes less then thirty minutes' and 'everyone's a winner' content.

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Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza

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I mean stuff like real life, another game, meeting friends, hanging out with your partner or going to a movie or doing other activities ingame yea. Maybe you allready heard about it.

If the devs haven't finished this fight yet, it's because they're pissed off to work on it. They'd rather develop something else and since they're developing something else, at the end, when you look at where it's at on this fight, well, you can see that it's not progressing. Just remember the dev who designed E2S, he's an old guy who developed a lot of HL fights. He made it clear that he was stopping doing HL fights because he was tired of it. But as he saw that there was no one for E2S, he had to design it so that the raid would be ready in time.

And on the player side, the idea was that the players who do savage raids would get something during odd patches. But it turned out that the majority of these people don't care about ultimate and they are already a minority in this game to begin with.

In fact, almost no dev wants to develop ultimates and almost no player wants to play ultimates.

From that point on, ultimates should have stopped after Ucob.

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Originally Posted by Missbone

I mean stuff like real life, another game, meeting friends, hanging out with your partner or going to a movie or doing other activities ingame yea. Maybe you allready heard about it.

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Last time I checked, there's a pandemic going on. So your 'real life' suggestions aren't that great.

Secondly, telling someone/anyone they're 'wasting their time' by doing harmless stuff they genuinely enjoy makes for a poor argument.

They have a genuine reason to be sore about it.

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Originally Posted by Missbone

You are right that is something I had never understand in over 20 years of MMO gaming. To me this stuff only feels like wasted lifetime with a lot of boring and frustrating moments. It doesn't feel rewarding and has more with unpaid work in common than anything else. So why wasting time with this stuff if there is an endless ocean of other fun things i can do? If I ever get the desire to punish myself i go to a BDSM club, at least the Dominas there look nice.

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Well I guess that's difference between our mentalities. I personally find things that are just given to you and are easy just straight up boring. The rush of clearing something that's extremely difficult makes everything worth it. Have you seen how xenosys reacted when he cleared TEA? That was pretty much my reaction too when I first cleared TEA

https://youtu.be/BOQSY3z4yTk?t=1080

That's something that casuals will never get to experience :(

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Originally Posted by MPK

Well I guess that's difference between our mentalities. I personally find things that are just given to you and are easy just straight up boring. The rush of clearing something that's extremely difficult makes everything worth it. Have you seen how xenosys reacted when he cleared TEA? That was pretty much my reaction too when I first cleared TEA

https://youtu.be/BOQSY3z4yTk?t=1080

That's something that casuals will never get to experience :(

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He gets paid to play the game and to give reactions like that, bad example.