why so much players have a rush mentality

If everyone is doing there job then a pull is too large when:
A. Tank is getting smacked like a wet noodle
B. Mobs are dying slower then a tree grows
C. Your Healer is trying to be the entire cast of ER instead of just a healer.

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Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar

so much people just want to speed run / rush any content and never even care to see of the rest of the party is up to it. as a tank its extremely frustrating as people liek this never want to communicate and force the way they want to play on you.
what you think of this?:confused:

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Some of us don't have time to throw away.
Job, studies, other pending obligations looming...
There's a dungeon to do and I'd rather do it than sit idly by sniffing the flowers.

I main tank, usually I do big pulls and don't dawdle, but it never hurts to check how geared/competent the healer is.

As for people who pull instead of the tank...

If someone runs ahead of me while I am playing tank and starts pulling, I don't take aggro and turn stance off.
If they want to tank so badly, I let them.

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Originally Posted by Ottkins

I main tank, usually I do big pulls and don't dawdle

As for people who pull instead of the tank...

If someone runs ahead of me while I am playing tank and starts pulling, I don't take aggro and turn stance off.
If they want to tank so badly, I let them.

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Hello darkness my old friend I've come to talk to you again...

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Originally Posted by Ottkins

If someone runs ahead of me while I am playing tank and starts pulling, I don't take aggro and turn stance off.
If they want to tank so badly, I let them.

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Originally Posted by Ottkins

I don't take aggro and turn stance off.

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Originally Posted by Ottkins

If they want to tank so badly, I let them.

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Originally Posted by Ottkins

I do big pulls and don't dawdle

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Math doesn't check out maybe you should learn how to actually pull big?

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Originally Posted by Nethereal

Hello darkness my old friend I've come to talk to you again...






Math doesn't check out maybe you should learn how to actually pull big?

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Trust me, I've dealt with people who just have no understanding of what role they're playing.

Sometimes I have to slow down, there are healer sprouts who can't handle massive pulls.

But some people just don't give a damn and run ahead to pull anyway.

Other times right out the gate someone runs right in anyway instead of staying behind the tank.

I've had situations where the white mage sprints off to hoard them up and then spam holy.

Like, hell...

what's the issue with that, exactly? do 2 AoEs and you have your aggro back
if people pull too much and wipe, well, at least they tried and everyone might have learned something
if a healer can't handle w2w in lvl 50 and above dungeons they should practice more - and how do you practice more? doing w2w

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Originally Posted by Ottkins

I've had situations where the white mage sprints off to hoard them up and then spam holy.

Like, hell...

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Have you ever considered to think that the WHM was silently communicating to you: "I have better reach with Dia, here! I'll help round them up for you so you can grab them easier with your AoE; this is also where we'll start burning them down!"

It also helps them to keep up with the rest of the party in term of contributing overall dps so the mob will be burnt sooner. WHMs in particular have less healing tools compared to other two healers to deal with extended pulls; henceforth it is where their slow-startup Holy stuns comes in to substitute that. Waiting 1 or 2 GCDs behind means they will have to heal your more because of that slow startup (you take more beating before the stun comes into play).

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Originally Posted by Ottkins

Some of us don't have time to throw away.
Job, studies, other pending obligations looming...
There's a dungeon to do and I'd rather do it than sit idly by sniffing the flowers.

I main tank, usually I do big pulls and don't dawdle, but it never hurts to check how geared/competent the healer is.

As for people who pull instead of the tank...

If someone runs ahead of me while I am playing tank and starts pulling, I don't take aggro and turn stance off.
If they want to tank so badly, I let them.

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You get me.thanks.

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Originally Posted by Rinhi

what's the issue with that, exactly? do 2 AoEs and you have your aggro back
if people pull too much and wipe, well, at least they tried and everyone might have learned something
if a healer can't handle w2w in lvl 50 and above dungeons they should practice more - and how do you practice more? doing w2w

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Respect ,one day you may find your own. If they don't even pretend to respect the tank why will the tank be respectful to them.

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Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar

Respect ,one day you may find your own. If they don't even pretend to respect the tank why will the tank be respectful to them.

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Someone jumping ahead and grabbing mobs then bringing them back to your AOE spam is the opposite of disrespect. They are helping you. Accept their help by simply continuing to press AOE buttons like you were before.

what I truly do not get is; the DPS or healer pulling doesn't mean they disrespect the tank, it's actually the opposite like xirean said. they respect the tank's ability to handle it without issues, but most importantly, to not behave like a baby whose toy fell on the floor