Play poll: No Open world vs Instanced world?

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Originally Posted by Coglin

Tell yourself whatever you have to to convince yourself its a fact, that is fine my friend. A fact would be a pole that ask the diect question in debate here and not a conditional one and would include those playing. As you ademently stated the player base. Not the potential player base. Not the past player base.

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It looks like you didn't read through the material I gave you.

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Originally Posted by NadienKirisame

Is the title so it could be said this thread is all about open world vs instanced... though really its more like he was asking why there was no question on the new poll about open world or instanced world. In a way the thread title can be taken in a few different ways... and of course there is the OP and the following posts by people the make the flow of what this thread is about... which has come to be open world vs instanced...

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You need to read the OP. The content of the OP is more relavent to the tittle. Very specifically initiated the thread in reference to "not having open world content changed to instanced"

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

It looks like you didn't read through the material I gave you.

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You mean as in how it related to you and your references being specifically inaccurate to the actual topic and how you refuse to aknowledge that we are refering to curing paying player base and not the over a year past of the freeroll players?

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Originally Posted by Coglin

You mean as in how it related to you and your references being specifically inaccurate to the actual topic and how you refuse to aknowledge that we are refering to curing paying player base and not the over a year past of the freeroll players?

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I already addressed this. It's irrelevant, because the people that the game is being designed and developed for include more than just the people that are actively paying right now.

You still haven't given me any real numbers or posts from devs stating that people want open world over instanced, where as I have given you numbers. Numbers which you decided to nitpick and reject based on red herrings.

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Originally Posted by Coglin

You need to read the OP. The content of the OP is more relavent to the tittle. Very specifically initiated the thread in reference to "not having open world content changed to instanced"

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Right I stated that about how the OP was but look at what the thread evolved into... its not really what Rokien started it out as or to be... Rokien has always stated that he wants them to keep the current open world stuff as open... but he has also stated that he would want more open world content. Granted Rokien also knows that you can't really just have one or you lose some people... because a lot of people actually do like instances that they can go into with their friends and fight through.

As I said if you look at what this turned into is pretty much an open world vs instanced thread which if I'm not mistaken Rokien actually has a second thread for that as well :P

But you all can keep fighting... and being completely off topic if you wish... I'm not going to push for one way or the other :P

The cat is bemused =-.-=

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Originally Posted by NadienKirisame

I said if you look at what this turned into is pretty much an open world vs instanced thread which if I'm not mistaken Rokien actually has a second thread for that as well :P

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Yes, turned by 2 posters. wolfie and jinko.

So if your going to clutter up this thread with post that are off topic and only attacking post of players just because the disagree with your friends, do you agree with my several previous post, that we simply need a standard mix of both instanced and non instanced?

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Originally Posted by Coglin

Yes, turned by 2 posters. wolfie and jinko.

So if your going to clutter up this thread with post that are off topic and only attacking post of players just because the disagree with your friends, do you agree with my several previous post, that we simply need a standard mix of both instanced and non instanced?

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Eh my friends? And actually most posts are most non attacking... I always go on the side of trying to clear up the hate you humans bring about though my efforts for the most part are wasted on some...

I have already stated before I think the game needs both open world and instanced content... I have actually stated this several times in almost every thread that has spouted up from this subject. What I do not agree on with most of you is the poking at each other and trying to claim this or that... instead I have always said that maybe if both sides tried to work it out how they could have a good flow of both open world and instanced content and keep it fair to both sides... but so far it has yet to happen... as I have also stated time and time again... you humans love to attack each other over the silliest of things...

The cat is bemused =-.-=

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Originally Posted by Coglin

Yes, turned by 2 posters. wolfie and jinko.

So if your going to clutter up this thread with post that are off topic and only attacking post of players just because the disagree with your friends, do you agree with my several previous post, that we simply need a standard mix of both instanced and non instanced?

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Yes, actually, I've agreed with and proposed solutions for a mix of both.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

This is actually a great solution. Not sure how feasible it is, but it would make everyone happy.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

Of course. That's the case now, that was the case in FFXI, that's the case in WOW, and almost every other MMO. Rokien just likes to exaggerate and come up with scenarios where everything is 100% instanced and you just hang out in a single hub city and then never see another player.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

Make a boss spawn open world. Then make the same boss spawn in an instanced fashion ala leve mobs. Then the crybabies who want open world competitiveness can stick to killing the un-instanced boss over and over while the rest of us kill the instanced one with no hassle.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

Then would you be opposed to the solution I gave above? Zones like Mun-tuy are kept as-is, but for people that want to, they can go to the aetherial gate and start an instanced version of it. Same monsters, same bosses, you don't see them, they don't see you. You can stay in the non-instanced version and kill the NM there, which will have the same drops and drop rates as the one in the instanced version.

I wouldn't depending on how that PVP is implemented. Do some people who show up for that PVP walk away with nothing gained, not even a chance to fight someone? Then I'm against it. Does everyone get a chance to fight and the losers walk away with lesser rewards? Then I'm for it.

Open-world PVE content forces the losers to waste time and walk away with nothing.

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What none of you open-world-only people have ever managed to agree on or even give me an answer is if you would be satisfied with the same content, same monsters, and same gear also being available in an instance in addition to open world.

Why ask people who don't give two cents about the game?

Also, I was asking why wasn't there a poll about it.


Also, Wolfie stop calling people "stupid".
I'm saying that it's implied in your link you gave.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

What none of you open-world-only people have ever managed to agree on or even give me an answer is if you would be satisfied with the same content, same monsters, and same gear also being available in an instance in addition to open world.

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No one here is open world only. Not to mention I know for a fact that the exact question you ask was answered. You are clearly making false accusations, having not read all of the discussion. Again you are being counter productive for....well heck , i don't know why. Why you would falsy label everyone here as you have really makes it hard for anyone to see you as nothing less then a troll.