SE, no effort anywhere lately.

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Originally Posted by CStrife912

Doing my custom deliveries today I will say there is definitely room to lower the amount of inputs, like allow me to hand in however many up to the 6 and not me having to spam each one. It is things like that, that they indeed can fix or make much easier and have proven so in other aspects of the game. I definitely feel there are many areas they can trim down button input bloat or delay. In regards to wow flying...I just don't like it, both games suffer from old zones being pointless but at least with 14 I can teleport about where as in WoW I have to flight path to an area...or boat to another or mages guild to another...counter point it does give coherence to the world but I think I'll forgive the coherence for ease of getting about.

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Yeah, I think after awhile I did start to feel like I wished there was an easier teleport in general. So maybe for WoW it's more an issue that it can sometimes feel frustrating to figure out how to travel to a certain area.

So if WoW had an easier way to teleport to each expac it'd be nicer. I know you all like your jank ass portal tower, but it's jank. It old. Delete that shit. Also delete your 20yo ass towns too. They gross. lol

Then if XIV maybe removed some of the excessive Aetherytes and centered them in the zone instead of always in a far corner. But also XIV just barely has any reason to even be in 90% of the zones..

Like this is just absolutely excessive.

https://i.imgur.com/hSCMARc.png

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Originally Posted by R041

Okay, I came on a bit stronk. And for that I'm sorry.

But I can almost guarantee that's what they meant. I still stand by what I said with how it's all forced animations and button delays for the sake of slowing the player down at every turn.

It just.. Doesn't feel as fluid as most games these days, and even MMOs. Playing WoW as an example (Yeah..) is so refreshing because it never stops you. Or if it DOES, it does it in a way it doesn't feel like it's taking your time.

A good example is how XIV has teleportation, but WoW mostly has flying. I never felt like WoW was intentionally slowing me down, or that it felt aged. I just felt like it was a world to explore. Even though getting to A-B is way faster in XIV in general.

I wish XIV would get rid of all of these anim delays and mass prompts for everything. If they want to slow us down, then do it while we're teleporting, make it a travel where we float there. But don't make me wait at the portal with my hand on it for 5 seconds. That just isn't engaging as a player. It feels weird and slow.

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This is exactly what I meant. I thought I made my point pretty clear. I don't expect this 10 year old game to produce the same quality as a game released a year or two ago but there's so much clunky jank here that could use a lot more fluidity and way less pointless confirmation windows and interaction animations. MMOs thrive on immersion, you want people to feel like they want to live in that world, as for an MMO, you're supposed to spend a sizable amount of your freetime in it.

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Originally Posted by Sheriyana

This is exactly what I meant. I thought I made my point pretty clear. I don't expect this 10 year old game to produce the same quality as a game released a year or two ago but there's so much clunky jank here that could use a lot more fluidity and way less pointless confirmation windows and interaction animations. MMOs thrive on immersion, you want people to feel like they want to live in that world, as for an MMO, you're supposed to spend a sizable amount of your freetime in it.

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It's really why the mod community has taken off this past year. They have the ability to scrub some of that abrasiveness away, and they did. Yoshi needs to be paying more attention to what we hate, and what takes us out of the general mood with basic gameplay.

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It's really why the mod community has taken off this past year. They have the ability to scrub some of that abrasiveness away, and they did. Yoshi needs to be paying more attention to what we hate, and what takes us out of the general mood with basic gameplay.

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Yeah, I can only imagine! Wish we could have access to all that on console too. They very much do need to start focus on the fluidity of the gameplay, no one wants casting bars for interactable items or endless confirmation windows.

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Originally Posted by Slayer25c

This a odd patch this made for catch up idk why u shocked if u play this game for years odd patches always being boring

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Odd patches used to have exploratory content lmao.

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Originally Posted by Kickwars

Odd patches used to have exploratory content lmao.

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I can't wait for this patch tbh, mostly because this has been a 5 month wait (the longest patch by far, btw) and we're going to get an influx of "this is all we get before 7.0?" lol. The increased time between patches has literally done nothing but make EW feel sparse in content.

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I can't wait for this patch tbh, mostly because this has been a 5 month wait (the longest patch by far, btw) and we're going to get an influx of "this is all we get before 7.0?" lol. The increased time between patches has literally done nothing but make EW feel sparse in content.

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The funniest thing will be the few whiteknights saying

"yeah there is old content though ! there is endless content in ffxiv, you can also do achievements like desynth 10000 items and catch 5000 fishes ! just because you decide to not do it doesnt mean there's no content"

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

The funniest thing will be the few whiteknights saying

"yeah there is old content though ! there is endless content in ffxiv, you can also do achievements like desynth 10000 items and catch 5000 fishes ! just because you decide to not do it doesnt mean there's no content"

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no it's going to be uh, "are you having fun though? clearly this is the worst game by far if you think this, just quit", smh cmon get it right. 7.0 comes and astro gets the cut to become like WHM, SGE, and SCH. MNK, BLM become like SMN; MCH is dead to them. and all is complete :P

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

The funniest thing will be the few whiteknights saying

"yeah there is old content though ! there is endless content in ffxiv, you can also do achievements like desynth 10000 items and catch 5000 fishes ! just because you decide to not do it doesnt mean there's no content"

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Oh you don't want to do POTD? The thing we've been doing since.. (checks calendar) 2016?!

I'm still exhausted from running it for a month straight on release. That was before job boosts. lol

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

The funniest thing will be the few whiteknights saying

"yeah there is old content though ! there is endless content in ffxiv, you can also do achievements like desynth 10000 items and catch 5000 fishes ! just because you decide to not do it doesnt mean there's no content"

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Old content might as well not exist in a game with such a verticality and option to unsync. Old raids, EX, anything? Just unsync it, you get same rewards anyways. ARR/HW relics? Passively get poetics and then unsync few duties. Old crafting/firmament/whatever? Trained Eye -> Groundwork = EZ HQ. Seriously, why tf is Trained Eye even a thing, few days ago I tried to do those rabbit quests and Trained Eye works for all the items so far for some reason. Even content released this patch is somehow already outdated.

Only good old content is Eureka and Bozja. Since EW gave us no exploratory zone, 7.X droughts will be even worse if they don't pick up the pace and start releasing actual MMORPG content, and not once-and-done content.

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Another round of undyable outfits in the Mogstation that we have to pay for
Lackluster patch content. You know it's bad when people are excited for deep dungeons because there's nothing else to do. Crit & variant dungeons were a flop. Island Sanctuary is still a 5 minute get in, get out content when you consider how many people just use the Discord for workshop recs.
Recycles /eat emotes for the past couple events, new /dance emote doesn't even loop.

This game isn't in maint. mode but it sure feels like it is.

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it's kinda sad aint it

can't belive people are white knighting still even on such flagrant faults.
6.0 has been the most barebones patch cycle we've ever seen, paradoxically, the franchise does better and better, the cash shop cashes more and more, yet we the players recive less and less.

Its notorious that the development of XVI affected for the worse the Endwalker content cycle.

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can't belive people are white knighting still even on such flagrant faults.
6.0 has been the most barebones patch cycle we've ever seen, paradoxically, the franchise does better and better, the cash shop cashes more and more, yet we the players recive less and less.

Its notorious that the development of XVI affected for the worse the Endwalker content cycle.

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20 more days to see if we're wasting our time or if they were working on something good.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

20 more days to see if we're wasting our time or if they were working on something good.

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spoiler: no

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spoiler: no

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Lmao, I'm willing to give them at least a chance. We'll see.

7.0 needs to be good. Currently, EW was mid AF.

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Originally Posted by Zarkovitch

7.0 needs to be good. Currently, EW was mid AF.

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Honestly, it's below mid.

The game's largest arc just ended so I'm not really sure why you're expecting so much from the story NOW of all times.

And I loved Endwalker. Shadowbringers is a bit higher in my repertoire but Endwalker was incredible. I'm not in the minority here. People insisting the game is dying just kill me. I think the game will be fine regardless of what a minority subset of players have to say in the official forums. The game is bound to bite it eventually like all MMOs and franchises but it's not even close yet.

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The game's largest arc just ended so I'm not really sure why you're expecting so much from the story NOW of all times.

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Absolutely true. The game is pretty much finished now, so it doesn't have to be good--

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The game is bound to bite it eventually like all MMOs and franchises but it's not even close yet.

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Wait. Okay, so it was good, and it WILL be good, but right now it's not good, but THAT'S OKAY takes out notecards Because it's FFXIV. Still the best MMO, still better than WoW. Critics love it and we love it too. We're all here for it. We're the majority. Ever since Yoshi-P saved the company with ARR we've been loving ARR. Endwalker is the all-time peak and our subscriber numbers keep growing. Everyone else is happy with it except for TitanMen and the other trolls.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a /beesknees date at the nightclub. Yeah, that's right. I play the game. Unlike these trolls.

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Yeah, that's right. I play the game. Unlike these trolls.

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If you play XIV as a second life game with mods, thats cool.

But i and i dare say most players purchased an MMORPG.
Have fun tho, don't let me tell you how to engage with the game, but XIV is not a dating/tinder simulator, it's an MMORPG and what people wants is content to be excited about. A predictable 10 year old pattern of patches, which only changes has been the constant downgrade of content or cut of it is not something to be excited about.

Considering the lack of endgame content of an MMORPG, not a tinder simulator, the criterion dungeons are a flop, the new deep dungeon is a flop, the relic quest is a disaster... We have recived LESS and WORSE content this expansion than any other expansion, not even the lul of Heavensward till 5.3 is comparable, we at least had hope. But is also where the cuts began, the hard mode dungeons first to go and the game has been cutting and cutting content since. First it was for "new diferent content": Deep Dungeons and Field Campaigns (Eureka and Bozja). What we got of those today? Deep Dungeon is a boring allagan-themed dungeon that you can summon a rando NPC for 1 floot, it's greatest contribution... By comparison HoH at least was refreshing and PotD still is THE deep dungeone experience. And we didn't get Field Campaign... Why? Why this was cut for? For Criterion Dungeons which have the worse reward structure (no rewards) in the game since the old ladder PvP? Was it cut for more Hildibrand?

How you slice it: This game either is not getting the resources enough to do all it's supposed to do, OR, they just don't care anymore, XIV solved the finances of SE by now and they can focus on another things like XVI which HAS CLEARLY affected the developement of XIV.

Also also aslo ARR was 10 years ago, cool. Im playing today. Not 10 years ago.

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The post you quoted was dripping with sarcasm...