Please Please Please Remove Esuna From CrossRole

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

I don't use Lucid at all in O1S or O3S. It may be more required for white mage or astro though, but most fights have enough time in between required healing to let you energy drain on scholar.

Of course since it's hard to not have room for lucid dreaming, it may as well be required just for that fact so yeah.

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You aren't using miasma II though. Thats why your dps suffers but your mp doesn't.

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/gr6Tn...-done&source=3

Isn't Miasma 2 weaker than Broil 2 on a single target?

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

Isn't Miasma 2 weaker than Broil 2 on a single target?

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Its 200 weavable potency. So if you use any ogcd ability [energy drain, lustrate, excog, ect] during the weave time from instacast miasma II, you gain damage over broil II, since those abilities would clip the gcd, stalling your next broil II, losing you a minimum of 80 potency. Weaving two ogcds under miasma II, increases its gap.

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Originally Posted by QT_Melon

Yes, but that's raid specific. Keep in mind this brings newer players in the game, and they may hit an old encounter that requires Esuna but they wouldn't know to bring it in their skillset till it's too late. That's problematic.

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Big deal, wipe and learn. Even raiders do the same thing. Every role has something that is encounter specific.

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Originally Posted by technole

Big deal, wipe and learn. Even raiders do the same thing. Every role has something that is encounter specific.

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Right? Surecast becomes godly in V4s, pointless everywhere else.

Unless you're a healer... in Sophia EX... popping surecast and pulling DPS beside you... in the middle...just before tilt... thatll teach you to stack for heals.

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Originally Posted by QT_Melon

That way they could have kept stoneskin which is great for mitigation.

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They took your stoneskin and then gave it right back to you in the form of Divine Benison. That way it was WHM specific. Just like DRK lost Delirium and then got it right back later. Lots of jobs "Lost" abilities during the streamline but magically got them back post 60 in the form of a "new" ability.

Terrible design IMO.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

They took your stoneskin and then gave it right back to you in the form of Divine Benison. That way it was WHM specific. Just like DRK lost Delirium and then got it right back later. Lots of jobs "Lost" abilities during the streamline but magically got them back post 60 in the form of a "new" ability.

Terrible design IMO.

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DB is ogcd and grants 5% more mitigation than HW stoneskin. Its only real drawback is that its Lily locked. DB does HW ss' job, but better. It also takes away a healer applying stoneskin every gcd as useless busywork.

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Originally Posted by Rawrz

DB is ogcd and grants 5% more mitigation than HW stoneskin. Its only real drawback is that its Lily locked. DB does HW ss' job, but better. It also takes away a healer applying stoneskin every gcd as useless busywork.

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I miss ARR Stoneskin though. 18% was basically a Cure2, same cost, and you could apply it instead of Cure2 for minimal threat, to buffer against mob packs or tank busters...

DB just doesn't feel as good in that regard, mostly because as an OGCD its weight isn't as noticeable.

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

I miss ARR Stoneskin though. 18% was basically a Cure2, same cost, and you could apply it instead of Cure2 for minimal threat, to buffer against mob packs or tank busters...

DB just doesn't feel as good in that regard, mostly because as an OGCD its weight isn't as noticeable.

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HW stoneskin killed ARR's stoneskin. ARR's has already had an expac to grieve over. If anything, DB is the good guy. He killed the murderer!

Lulz

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Originally Posted by Rawrz

HW stoneskin killed ARR's stoneskin. ARR's has already had an expac to grieve over. If anything, DB is the good guy. He killed the murderer!

Lulz

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Divine Benison would be better if it was called Stoneskin and had its animation. But that's just my nitpick.