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    Rox_Unlimited's Avatar
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    Rox Unlimited
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    Excalibur
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80

    Please Please Please Remove Esuna From CrossRole

    Now most good healers understand that Esuna is pretty much mandatory. However, you do occasionally run into those healers who don't have it on. Yesterday, while leveling my DPS, I got Satasha Hard and the first boss hits you with a mechanic that leaves you with a bit of health and if you have a damage over time (which is unavoidable to another mechanic) you will die. Well we wiped twice of the boss and we asked the healer nicely multiple times to use Esuna on the DoT. This was not a new healer at all they were 60+, but without a word after the 2nd wipe they left and we got a healer who actually had Esuna and cleared with no problem. Please SE give each healer their own Esuna back even thought majority of healers will have it on, there are many mechanics in the game which require it in order to prevent death and therefore should just be given back to the healers naturally through leveling.
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    Last edited by Rox_Unlimited; 06-30-2017 at 03:25 PM.

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    Uriel Valesti
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    JI was original outraged by the Role Actions being what they are, but I have to admit that I actually really like them. A lot more than Cross Class...

    I don't really care if Esuna stays the way it is now, but I really do think people have to get out of the mind set that Esuna is optional... It's probably the most mandatory RA we have, next to Swiftcast. People can argue that "you don't always need to cleanse stuff" but the simple fact that there are times you do? That makes it mandatory imo. There us the the fact that being paralyzed as a healer/Tank could lead to a wipe in some instances, and stacking poison can kill DPS/healer pretty fast. Yeah you can avoid some of it but what if you don't? Esuna is always a welcome boon.

    Edit: Phone... tgat is not a word.
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    Last edited by VanilleFang; 06-30-2017 at 10:45 AM.

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    Lunafreya's Avatar
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    Ellia Lombardia
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    Lamia
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    Dancer Lv 90
    It is pretty damn stupid it is on cross skill in the first place because I liked what we had before. I wouldn't mind just having Exalted Detriment back so I can have cleric stance on my cross skill instead.
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    Zetsumei Tsunarashi
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Most status detriment in the game can't be removed and the ones that can are usually avoidable or can be removed by doing the mechanic properly. You don't need esuna.
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    Uriel Valesti
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    Most status detriment in the game can't be removed and the ones that can are usually avoidable or can be removed by doing the mechanic properly. You don't need esuna.
    This kind of mind set confuses me. So because being paralyzed in some instances is avoidable you don't need to set Esuna? What if you screw up and get paralyzed? You can't get a enough casts off to heal your tank ans then your tank dies, and it leads to a wipe?
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    Furious Laughter
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    Ravana
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    Most status detriment in the game can't be removed and the ones that can are usually avoidable or can be removed by doing the mechanic properly. You don't need esuna.
    The OP literally just gave a specific example where Esuna is mandatory if you don't want to wipe to the mechanic that is unavoidable.

    Literally, the first post, in this thread, that you replied to.
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    Veliona Umrtia
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    Most status detriment in the game can't be removed and the ones that can are usually avoidable or can be removed by doing the mechanic properly. You don't need esuna.
    Wrong. There are plenty of status affects that are removeable that are not avoidable, by not having esuna you are just making it intentionally harder on yourself and your group. This also is not a healthy mindset for newer healers or people looking to get into healing with no experience. Please stop spewing this garbage.
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    Nol Lac'nala
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    Most status detriment in the game can't be removed and the ones that can are usually avoidable or can be removed by doing the mechanic properly. You don't need esuna.


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    Player Miles_Maelstrom's Avatar
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    Miles Maelstrom
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    Most status detriment in the game can't be removed and the ones that can are usually avoidable or can be removed by doing the mechanic properly. You don't need esuna.
    O4 Normal says otherwise. Literally they have the boss cast a cleanse-able doom on 2 players once at the beginning of the fight. Its a mechanic absent from OS4 and it is literally there only to make sure one healer is wasting a role skill on esuna. Because that fight has nothing of note else to cleanse.
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_Maelstrom View Post
    O4 Normal says otherwise. Literally they have the boss cast a cleanse-able doom on 2 players once at the beginning of the fight. Its a mechanic absent from OS4 and it is literally there only to make sure one healer is wasting a role skill on esuna. Because that fight has nothing of note else to cleanse.
    I mean, you *could* Thin Air and raise both of them instead... but yes, it seems only there to catch out groups where nobody brought Esuna. I sure hope that isn't the design plan long term.
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