Are the numbers too high?

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Originally Posted by Zangetsu

I feel like people want to hit for 200 more damage a hit by adding on 50 STR. Hitting for 30 more damage on level 50 mobs in gear vs naked is a huge difference. If you put that into a party setup with everyone doing that much more damage your looking at a ton more damage than before. 200 arrows= 6,000 more damage. 5 archers: 1,000 arrows= 30,000 more damage. I'm pretty sure 200 arrows don't last long for an Archer.

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This isn't what I want at all FWIW.

I want to see a significant difference in wearing gear of lvl 40 and lvl 50, right now most of your damage stats are heavily focused on weapons only.

And armour makes very little difference if you are naked or not, as proved by naked Ifrit and Moogle fights.

The way I would do it would make level mostly irrelevant all be it for a few base and allocated stats, then move all stats to gear, physical damage stat should be across all pieces of equipment including armour. (you would still be required to level to wear armour)

This way if you are wearing nothing you get 1 shot unless you are fighting something lvl 1-5.

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Originally Posted by Coglin

Yeah, I am and ARC / THM / CNJ. How is auto attack on those classes aplicable to your comment?





Okay, you have been shown, I am happily awaiting you next comment.

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Grats to the folks who did it. Also look how long that fight took still, Archer taking 500+ dmg ws with sent up, all that vid proves that stats don't have a potent enough effect but they indeed work.

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Originally Posted by Firon

Grats to the folks who did it. Also look how long that fight took still, Archer taking 500+ dmg ws with sent up, all that vid proves that stats don't have a potent enough effect but they indeed work.

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Talk about back peddling. First you demand proof, with implication that it hasn't happened or isn't possible. Then you attept to down play it. Like it or not. it shouldn't be possible. You can do the 3 main endgame items in level one gear. Thats just not right, and needs to be fixed. Its clear evience that the stats are broke.

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Originally Posted by Coglin

Talk about back peddling. First you demand proof, with implication that it hasn't happened or isn't possible. Then you attept to down play it. Like it or not. it shouldn't be possible. You can do the 3 main endgame items in level one gear. Thats just not right, and needs to be fixed. Its clear evience that the stats are broke.

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First don't get hostile and i didn't back peddle read my post i said show me an vid where ppl doing moogles in said gear w/o taking tons of dmg. He didn't show that at all, he gave me a vid where someone beat moogles in lvl 1 gear and they was taking tons more dmg than normal.

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Originally Posted by Firon

First don't get hostile and i didn't back peddle read my post i said show me an vid where ppl doing moogles in said gear w/o taking tons of dmg. He didn't show that at all, he gave me a vid where someone beat moogles in lvl 1 gear and they was taking tons more dmg than normal.

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Yea... I think you're both agreeing on the same point....
and I think we could all agree with this:

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Originally Posted by Zangetsu

So my understanding is you don't want gear to make you stronger. You just want to be useless naked.

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yes... that would absolutely work for me...
And it doesn't alienate anyone really because NO ONE, casual or hardcore, is forced to do NM or primal battles nude or in holiday gear
The stats you have naked now... SHOULD BE the stats you'd have at Level 50 wearing level 38 gear
And Naked should be absolutely USELESS

And as a second (But not as important) point.... I'd like it if upgrading gear made more of a difference. The stats do what they are supposed to do... Thats what I've been saying.. it is "working as intended"
I just have a preference on the philosophy of gear stats....
Not better or worse... just opinion really

You make false assumption to assume I am getting hostile.

Define tons of damage?

My point remains the same, the fact that you can do the 3 main level 50 "raids" in all level one gear with the same effort as in "top end" gear, is clear display that stats and gear are broken. Because if that is working as intended, then the way I see it, the intension is wrong.

Tons of damage doesn't even come into it, if you get hit by a moogle with reindeer suit on it should be a 9999 hit.

Of course stats work, for example if you go pick a fight with lvl a 99 goblin he will hit you for 9999 damage.

But the reason this doesn't happen when people go to Ifrit/moogle naked/low geared is because base stats are too high.

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Originally Posted by Coglin

My point remains the same, the fact that you can do the 3 main level 50 "raids" in all level one gear with the same effort as in "top end" gear, is clear display that stats and gear are broken. Because if that is working as intended, then the way I see it, the intension is wrong.

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Inarguable.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Tons of damage doesn't even come into it, if you get hit by a moogle with reindeer suit on it should be a 9999 hit.

Of course stats work, for example if you go pick a fight with lvl a 99 goblin he will hit you for 9999 damage.

But the reason this doesn't happen when people go to Ifrit/moogle naked/low geared is because base stats are too high.

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I agree Jinko, You should get harder I'm just saying the stats do work they just need to fix them is all. The damage calculation for this game has always been fuked up tbh. I wish they would code their stats like pokemon -.- because in that game I can know exactly how much dmg i take based on another pokes attack stat vs my def stat.

your base stats are too high from leveling, imo they should be cut in have of what they are and adjust gear to make up the difference/balance.