Please more housing wards soon. And no more FC/Private Hybrid.

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Originally Posted by Yuniko

I did find something to bid on. But as always it's gonna be a ''Better luck next time''

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Wishing you luck! <3

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

It’s not that I won’t make an FC, it’s that I already belong to an actual FC and I’m not leaving it to make a fake one for what amounts to a personal house and screwing over everyone else who also belongs to an actual FC that has to suffer through the personal lotto hell. As I’ve said, I won’t judge anyone desperate enough to do it, I get it, but let’s just admit it’s a selfish thing to do with the current situation.

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Oh yeah I forgot about this self inflicted struggle: feeling morally superior for bidding on the type of house one is less likely to win that also uses up a plot on the server.

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

It’s not that I won’t make an FC, it’s that I already belong to an actual FC and I’m not leaving it to make a fake one for what amounts to a personal house and screwing over everyone else who also belongs to an actual FC that has to suffer through the personal lotto hell.

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*Looks at the 20 FC plots in Mist wards 1-6 alone on Gilgamesh, one of the biggest servers.*

Yeah, FCs are truly struggling to get a home. Think of the FCs who have to suffer 0 bid odds on the monthly! The horror. /s

If you want to bring in the selfish angle / morally correct angle, isn't you taking up a personal plot screwing over some poor soul who might also be stuck in the personal lotto hell? Wouldn't it actually be more morally correct to take an FC house so that way someone else can claim that personal plot, meaning two people get a plot instead of one? You should be doing your duty to give as many others a chance at a plot by staying our of the personal lotto to increase their odds!

If you don't want to go trough the effort of making a shell FC to get a home, that's your decision. Just don't pretend you're being moral about it when the alternative is actually more moral to giving as many people as possible access to housing due to the immensely vast overabundance of FC housing vs actual minuscule demand.

Also, speaking as someone who's actively a part of three different FCs on Balmung for RP purposes: If your FC won't make a LS/CWLS to make sure you can stay in contact if you chose to leave, or wouldn't accept you parking an alt in there, then maybe those people aren't exactly friends if they won't do the minimum effort required.

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

Expecting others that have been on their servers for years to move just to have a chance at housing is ridiculous. Again, it’s hypocritical to say they want housing to foster community, then expect leaving that community to be a “solution” to the scarcity problem they created. There should be enough plots per server and if there’s not, they need to consider other options, like instanced. And they never should have reopened Crystal!

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As I said in my previous post, you either work with the limitations of the system, or you deal with your self inflicted punishment (Though I agree that they should have kept Crystal locked) - a golden instant win ticket exists for anyone willing to work within the limitations (even bigger golden tickets to come soon). Besides, fostering community is irrelevant in the day & age of DC travel, people going to Dynamis don't have to give up anything, not even their former communities due to CWLS's besides the minor inconvenience of having to DC travel to play with friends. This ain't SHB & below where transferring meant leaving everyone & everything behind.

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

Because it’s not one size fits all here… personally I’m trying to relocate. I have a dream plot I bid on when it’s up, but I’m not winning any of the low bid “starter homes” either. And I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen any zero bid plots! In fact, let’s just forget the whole “starter home” concept, since relocating is just about impossible now. As I’m trying to relocate my main, that’s one factor against server transfer for me. My alt doesn’t need a house, and my main can’t access it even if they got one. It’s not that I won’t make an FC, it’s that I already belong to an actual FC and I’m not leaving it to make a fake one for what amounts to a personal house and screwing over everyone else who also belongs to an actual FC that has to suffer through the personal lotto hell. As I’ve said, I won’t judge anyone desperate enough to do it, I get it, but let’s just admit it’s a selfish thing to do with the current situation.

The new servers were added so new players could make characters there, so we won’t have hour plus login queues for 7.0. A few bonuses got some people with no real roots to their server to transfer, and a bunch of people to make alts there. Expecting others that have been on their servers for years to move just to have a chance at housing is ridiculous. Again, it’s hypocritical to say they want housing to foster community, then expect leaving that community to be a “solution” to the scarcity problem they created. There should be enough plots per server and if there’s not, they need to consider other options, like instanced. And they never should have reopened Crystal!

I’m seeing the divide on this issue: some people play this game as an MMO, with other people and create community. Some people play this game like it’s a solo RPG and as long as they can get theirs, they don’t see any problem.

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There comes a time when you (general you) have to admit to yourself that remaining on a server that has (for years!) been notoriously crowded, you also accept that resources like housing are going to be scarce. In that event, you have to take opportunities when they are available to you. Creating an FC in order to buy a house is a clever, not selfish. Bidding on a small, not so desirable plot that other people aren't likely to bid on is wise when you have /no plot/ to speak of yet.

What's ludicrous is you stubbornly staying on a server you know to be overcrowded (for years!) and thinking you should get the exact house you want handed to you on a silver platter. Not in the current state housing is, especially not on Balmung.

Do I want housing changed? Yes. But we have to be realistic about the here and now.

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Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir

Yeah, FCs are truly struggling to get a home. Think of the FCs who have to suffer 0 bid odds on the monthly! The horror. /s

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Yeah that was kinda my point… I was responding to those that said keeping the FC wards as-is was more important than personal buyers getting those unwanted houses to bid on.

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Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir

If you want to bring in the selfish angle / morally correct angle, isn\\\\'t you taking up a personal plot screwing over some poor soul who might also be stuck in the personal lotto hell? Wouldn\\\\'t it actually be more morally correct to take an FC house so that way someone else can claim that personal plot, meaning two people get a plot instead of one? You should be doing your duty to give as many others a chance at a plot by staying our of the personal lotto to increase their odds!

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If I weren’t trying to relocate, you might have a point. I could make an FC with my alt, and then I’d have 2 houses, with the one I actually want, being unusable by my main. I want to move and give someone else a chance at my current house. Taking up two doesn’t help anyone.

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Originally Posted by Nepentha

In that event, you have to take opportunities when they are available to you. Creating an FC in order to buy a house is a clever, not selfish. Bidding on a small, not so desirable plot that other people aren\\\\'t likely to bid on is wise when you have /no plot/ to speak of yet.

What\\\\'s ludicrous is you stubbornly staying on a server you know to be overcrowded (for years!) and thinking you should get the exact house you want handed to you on a silver platter. Not in the current state housing is, especially not on Balmung

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Not sure if you were replying to multiple people, but you quoted me. To clarify, I have a house already, I’m trying to relocate, I’m currently in an FC, I do bid on not-so-desirable smalls quite frequently in between the rare occasions my favorite comes up and I’m not on Balmung. lol

Beyond my personal opinion behind not wanting to create a solo FC, it’s not about any kind of “moral superiority.” It’s just not a solution that works for me, even if it wouldn’t make me feel like I was giving myself a golden ticket at someone else’s expense. I have a house, an FC room and an apartment, all filled to capacity. I have 8 retainers, almost all filled to capacity. And I can’t share anything with my alt… you can only hold 140 things in personal inventory at a time, and only trade 5 items at a time. And most of it is binding and can’t be traded anyways. So my alt would have an empty house, that my main can’t share in any meaningful way unless both my characters leave the FC I already belong to. And my main still has a personal house I don’t want.

And yeah maybe it won’t do any good but I’m still going to campaign for changes, because ultimately the current system isn’t sustainable.

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

Yeah that was kinda my point… I was responding to those that said keeping the FC wards as-is was more important than personal buyers getting those unwanted houses to bid on.



If I weren’t trying to relocate, you might have a point. I could make an FC with my alt, and then I’d have 2 houses, with the one I actually want, being unusable by my main. I want to move and give someone else a chance at my current house. Taking up two doesn’t help anyone.



Not sure if you were replying to multiple people, but you quoted me. To clarify, I have a house already, I’m trying to relocate, I’m currently in an FC, I do bid on not-so-desirable smalls quite frequently in between the rare occasions my favorite comes up and I’m not on Balmung. lol

Beyond my personal opinion behind not wanting to create a solo FC, it’s not about any kind of “moral superiority.” It’s just not a solution that works for me, even if it wouldn’t make me feel like I was giving myself a golden ticket at someone else’s expense. I have a house, an FC room and an apartment, all filled to capacity. I have 8 retainers, almost all filled to capacity. And I can’t share anything with my alt… you can only hold 140 things in personal inventory at a time, and only trade 5 items at a time. And most of it is binding and can’t be traded anyways. So my alt would have an empty house, that my main can’t share in any meaningful way unless both my characters leave the FC I already belong to. And my main still has a personal house I don’t want.

And yeah maybe it won’t do any good but I’m still going to campaign for changes, because ultimately the current system isn’t sustainable.

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This my friends is what happens when you put everybody else before yourself. You care so much about everyone else that well.. you have nothing that you'd like to have in the end, but hey at least you can feel good about everyone else getting their dream plots while you get.. nothing. /shrug lmao

Meanwhile I have everything that I'd like on EU, and I'm pretty sure it could be done on Dynamis as well, because I put myself before others, I dont see why I would care about others that want a house, sorry not sorry, housing is scarce and I care about myself before caring about others

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I have a house, an FC room and an apartment, all filled to capacity. I have 8 retainers, almost all filled to capacity. And I can’t share anything with my alt… you can only hold 140 things in personal inventory at a time, and only trade 5 items at a time. And most of it is binding and can’t be traded anyways. So my alt would have an empty house, that my main can’t share in any meaningful way unless both my characters leave the FC I already belong to.

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Hey you do what works for you but I wanted to give a small tip to anyone reading.

If someone were to make an fc with 4 alts and keep their main in another fc, they can have someone else add all 5 characters to a linkshell (or make a new one). This allows one to right-click a character in the linkshell and see the fc plate like you would from a housing placard, which allows one to join the fc on other characters even before the fc has a house. The main can join, turn-in some gear to rank up the fc, leave gil + furniture + other items in the alt fc bank and then leave to go back in the original fc (which may require someone else's invite). And if the alt fc already has a house one can just dump furniture directly in it.

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And yeah maybe it won’t do any good but I’m still going to campaign for changes, because ultimately the current system isn’t sustainable.

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It was a general you, though your points brought out my response. I'm glad you have what you have. In fact, it only strengthens my argument. Don't judge other people for being clever by creating an FC in order to get a house. You already have what you want, don't be riding a moral high horse at people who don't. And don't be making excuses for people refusing to try something new, a new server, to get what they want.

I understand why folks may be reluctant to leave. But there's a price for staying on servers people /know/ are overcrowded (and have been for years!) and that price is you may not get the house of your dreams... or any house at all.

another loss. woo.... *sigh*

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another loss. woo.... *sigh*

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Same here… *hugs* another one a little higher up on my list opened up though (5th choice as opposed to the 6th choice I just lost! lol), so I guess that’s what I’ll try for next time. Only 2 other smalls open next round so far so we’ll see… every small was between 10-14 bids this time, so there’s at least a good 50 people actively trying for a small. Maybe whoever wins the medium or large that are still unclaimed will open up something a couple more to spread out the bids.

Not sure what your general play time hours are, but if you’re going to be on this Saturday, let me know when and I’ll try to find you and send a friend request. :)

Moved my alt's house on Halicarnassus from one small to another, 0 issue, also 0 bids, got the other plot I wanted a single round.

Player inflicted problem as has been said multiple times.

They should make it one ticket for all open plots where the winners can pick which open plot they want. Better than only being able to bid on only one plot or add a lot more wards.

For anyone on Dynamis/Seraph, my old mansion plot at Goblet W14 P35 is on the market now, I won my bid yesterday to move to the plot I always wanted since Shiro first opened many years ago now, Mihgo Manor has moved to Shiro W14 P60.

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Shiro 30 was one I considered but then I just hated that when you leave your front gate you are just staring at other people's roofs. Ended up getting myself one of the mist mansions. Less staring at others plots there and I like the beach view. I think the only plot I would like now is one of the beach front cottages but I should finish decorating what I do have before I get another. More wards will come eventually and if I never get it oh well.

Good luck to people bidding.

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Shiro 30 was one I considered but then I just hated that when you leave your front gate you are just staring at other people's roofs. Ended up getting myself one of the mist mansions. Less staring at others plots there and I like the beach view. I think the only plot I would like now is one of the beach front cottages but I should finish decorating what I do have before I get another. More wards will come eventually and if I never get it oh well.

Good luck to people bidding.

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Ah I see, I like seeing the roofs on the contrary and the reason why I wanted this plot since it first came out was because the sunset is very nice from there, especially from the attached onsen of the Sukiya-Zukuri walls that came out in 6.3. It's also very private when bathing after a long day of adventuring when no other houses block the view of the sea. Best of luck on getting the plot you want, I waited since 2017 to get this plot :3

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Ah I see, I like seeing the roofs on the contrary and the reason why I wanted this plot since it first came out was because the sunset is very nice from there, especially from the attached onsen of the Sukiya-Zukuri walls that came out in 6.3. It's also very private when bathing after a long day of adventuring when no other houses block the view of the sea. Best of luck on getting the plot you want, I waited since 2017 to get this plot :3

https://i.ibb.co/hC4yTcG/2023-05-10.png

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That view is lovely for sure! And imagine it after the graphical upgrade we have coming later ^^ I do love the onsen house, it is the best house skin to me. The privacy is great. As much as I love to see other people's houses the roofs being at my eye line out front just put me off. So the irony of shiro being my fave theme housing ward but I have no house there since so many plots just don't meet what I am after there.

I am still praying for some instanced ward, won't ever happen but at least everyone could get their dream plot without much fuss!

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Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver

That view is lovely for sure! And imagine it after the graphical upgrade we have coming later ^^ I do love the onsen house, it is the best house skin to me. The privacy is great. As much as I love to see other people's houses the roofs being at my eye line out front just put me off. So the irony of shiro being my fave theme housing ward but I have no house there since so many plots just don't meet what I am after there.

I am still praying for some instanced ward, won't ever happen but at least everyone could get their dream plot without much fuss!

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I'm looking forward to the graphics update and hope we get ray tracing too, it would make the sunsets here breathtaking. The new walls are the best yet and for now, I don't intend to change them since I like the attached onsen and it's perfect for Shiro's aesthetic. Maybe the beach front homes are what you are looking for in Shiro?

I think it was the last Live Letter where they said Island Sanctuary is getting a major update where you would be able to put up to 90 pieces of outdoor furniture and such. So I say that's somewhat halfway towards instanced housing you're looking for. Maybe they will add interiors in the future for those that wish to live on their Island Sanctuary.

There is a platform with a possible ramp on the island that is currently blocked by a rock, but it looks like something house sized could be there. I wonder if it's meant for another facility or something else.

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There is a platform with a possible ramp on the island that is currently blocked by a rock, but it looks like something house sized could be there. I wonder if it's meant for another facility or something else.

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I think we’ll probably get another landmark next patch… I know you have to increase your rank to place the outdoor furnishings. But I think it could be doable… what the island really needs is a real cabin, with the ability to place indoor furnishings. (And no mammets inside! lol) Like maybe the size of an apartment, but with the exterior of a cabin. Though I’d rather see a true instanced housing system added, based on the existing wards, still, in my wildest dreams, there’d be a little house sized island off to the side of the main island somewhere that you could customize for an instanced house, with the ability to have it not be tropical scenery! (I did say my wildest dreams! lol)

I imagine we’ll see more of what they’re actually planning (at least for the coming patch) when they do the Live Letter tomorrow.

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I'm looking forward to the graphics update and hope we get ray tracing too, it would make the sunsets here breathtaking. The new walls are the best yet and for now, I don't intend to change them since I like the attached onsen and it's perfect for Shiro's aesthetic. Maybe the beach front homes are what you are looking for in Shiro?

I think it was the last Live Letter where they said Island Sanctuary is getting a major update where you would be able to put up to 90 pieces of outdoor furniture and such. So I say that's somewhat halfway towards instanced housing you're looking for. Maybe they will add interiors in the future for those that wish to live on their Island Sanctuary.

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I think ray tracing would be amazing but I wouldn't hold my breathe on that one! I do wonder what the next set of walls we will get are gonna be, I'd love a castle personally :3

I just love the idea of walking out your front door and being hit with that amazing view. I did get lucky with a lb 11? I forget the number, the one looking out over the lake. It's lovely. So I also look forward to gfx upgrade to see how much more that plot shines! Maybe one of us should make a thread so we can share our newly upgraded plots after 7.0.

Being able to put stuff outside in the sanctuary will be so nice! I really enjoy that content I just want more to do there, story of seasons are some of my favourite games so I hope they keep expanding on it's features to be a bit more similar to other farming sims.

I hope everyone is having a good weekend so far? :)

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I hope everyone is having a good weekend so far? :)

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Just a couple years and going still trying to get a large.

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I hope everyone is having a good weekend so far? :)

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So far. :) How about you?

I’m bid number 5 of 6 on my plot at the moment. But there’s one higher up on my list that just opened today. So if I win, great. If not, at least there’s something to hope for next round. lol

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There is a platform with a possible ramp on the island that is currently blocked by a rock, but it looks like something house sized could be there. I wonder if it's meant for another facility or something else.

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Hopefully this is what happens tbh, instanced housing should be on the island and nowhere else, it's not actual housing, it's a substitute for housing because of the scarcity

Be patient :o I'm sure well get more wards. In the mean time why not start saving up an aiming for that medium or large :D its good to have funds ready right now than panicking in the future :D

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Be patient :o I'm sure well get more wards. In the mean time why not start saving up an aiming for that medium or large :D its good to have funds ready right now than panicking in the future :D

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You mean the 200+ of us that are trying to get a large on my server? Good luck.

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Originally Posted by Kaiproberts

You mean the 200+ of us that are trying to get a large on my server? Good luck.

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So like Balmung. Lol i mean last i knew a large is at like +300 atm

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So like Balmung. Lol i mean last i knew a large is at like +300 atm

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Our highest large was at 105 last time I looked… lol

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You mean the 200+ of us that are trying to get a large on my server? Good luck.

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In bold is the amount of bids.

Marilith has :

Mist, Ward 14, Plot 35 Large 50,000,000 27 Accepting Entries Individual
Shirogane, Ward 24, Plot 46 Large 40,000,000 20 Accepting Entries Individual
Mist, Ward 24, Plot 45 Large 47,500,000 9 Accepting Entries Individual
Empyreum, Ward 20, Plot 42 Large 50,000,000 8 Accepting Entries Individual
Empyreum, Ward 12, Plot 52 Large 47,500,000 5 Accepting Entries Individual

Maduin has :

Shirogane, Ward 1, Plot 30 Large 45,000,000 23 Accepting Entries Free Company
Shirogane, Ward 24, Plot 30 Large 45,000,000 17 Accepting Entries Individual
The Lavender Beds, Ward 21, Plot 58 Large 47,500,000 15 Accepting Entries Individual
Empyreum, Ward 12, Plot 12 Large 50,000,000 14 Accepting Entries Individual

Halicarnassus has :

Shirogane, Ward 24, Plot 7 Large 42,500,000 13 Accepting Entries
The Lavender Beds, Ward 18, Plot 28 Large 47,500,000 12 Accepting Entries Individual
The Lavender Beds, Ward 24, Plot 33 Large 47,500,000 9 Accepting Entries Individual

Seraph has :

Shirogane, Ward 8, Plot 60 Large 45,000,000 79 Accepting Entries Free Company
The Goblet, Ward 4, Plot 30 Large 47,500,000 39 Accepting Entries Free Company
The Goblet, Ward 16, Plot 30 Large 47,500,000 27 Accepting Entries Individual
The Goblet, Ward 14, Plot 35 Large 42,500,000 21 Accepting Entries Individual

Player inflicted problem.

You want a large ? Move, or deal with the 200+ bids. Stop complaining all the time if you refuse to move for one, it's ridiculous at this point to constantly complain when you refuse to make an FC to get a house, that includes larges, or you refuse to move.

You are putting yourself in that mess and ruining your chances, not anyone else, you have yourself to blame and only yourself.

It's not that hard to move to Dynamis and coordinate hanging out with friends, someone in this very same thread did it without issues, and their fc friends even come to their plot on Dynamis to hang out. Just stop.

"Coordinate Hanging Out With Friends": No one does this.

Also the how much money to get re-married?
Also how much time spent making relationships with FC members and easily able to visit the FC house?

No one is leaving any of that behind unless a large is guaranteed. Give me a guaranteed large in NA and I will transfer instantly. Until then, stop with that argument. Do you own a large yourself or does your FC have one?

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I did have those same fears at first but once you get used to data center traveling, it simply becomes a sort of commuting to return to your old NA world to play with your friends and old FC members there and vice versa when they visit me. As you said, it takes a bit of coordinating with friends but they have no issues with that because they like visiting me to bathe in my onsen from my own plot 60 Shiro mansion as well to chat. Some people act like waiting a minute or two to login between data centers is the same as having to go to an airport to travel..... Exodus is now congested and more people are showing up to Dynamis while the new wards have yet to open for bidding lol. Once they realize data center travel isn't as bad as they think, it's so much less stressful when you own your own plot instead of losing lotto after lotto on their congested worlds. It's true that you can't access your retainers but I solve that minor issue by having my Choco bags empty and then take what I will need when visiting other worlds and data centers.

I even won two mansion lottos on Seraph, the fullest of the Dynamis worlds, the first was my mansion at W14 P35 in Goblet when Seraph first went live and on Monday at Shiro W14 P60 :3

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Guess they do ?

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If you move with your partner, you dont need to remarry iirc.

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I'm not sure I get what you mean by that, sorry

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No one is leaving any of that behind unless a large is guaranteed. Give me a guaranteed large in NA and I will transfer instantly. Until then, stop with that argument. Do you own a large yourself or does your FC have one?

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Are you going to tell me that you'd rather bid agaisnt 200+ people and have absolutely no chance, instead of taking your chances agaisnt 10-15 ?

Life is a risk, be it IRL or in the game, either you accept that it is, or you dont.

In the past, I moved from Louisoix on EU to Spriggan because an LB11 popped up back in the placard days, I tried my luck and lost, I took the risk for it because it's one of the best plot in the game.

As for your remark about me having a large, I do have everything I want on EU new worlds, yes, which is comparable to Dynamis (minus Seraph)

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"Coordinate Hanging Out With Friends": No one does this.

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I literally do this every day since I have friends on every DC and we play together. I know plenty of other people that do this. Not that its "co-ordinating" by any serious measure.
"Logging in, you on Crystal?"
"yeah"
"Alright, hopping over"
*Que the next 5 hours of hanging out doing content.*

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Also the how much money to get re-married?

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The ring stays active even after a transfer, so long as you happen to be on the same server simultaneously. In fact, my EB partner moved to Dynamis to get a home and we still ring to each other all the time. So unless you reaallllllllllyyyyyyyy want to do the anniversary...$0. EDIT: Also technically even if you wanted to get remarried for whatever reason, there is literally a free marriage plan on the mogstation.

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Also how much time spent making relationships with FC members and easily able to visit the FC house?

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As someone who's socially a part of 3 different FCs on Crystal despite my character residing on Aether:
-CWLS
-Discord
-Party / say / shout / yell / etc chat when with friends

Take your pick. If people wont go to the absolute basics to stay in contact with you if you chose to leave...kinda says a lot about your "friendship", huh?
As for visiting the FC house? Right click someone in the FC on your friend list -> estate teleportation -> select their FC house. I warp to the FC houses of the ones I'm socially involved in every day, you just gotta take the effort to do 2-3 extra clicks. The horror.

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No one is leaving any of that behind unless a large is guaranteed. Give me a guaranteed large in NA and I will transfer instantly. Until then, stop with that argument. Do you own a large yourself or does your FC have one?

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My friend made an FC when Dynamis first opened, they got a large literally uncontested. Most larges in the personal wards of Dynamis also had 2-3 bids each, and plenty only had 1 on the first round. Sure beats your forever 200+.
There'll be 5 more wards, along with 4 new servers of 30 wards coming to Dynamis in the future, will be literally a gold ticket to get a large nigh uncontested. If you choose to not move at that time, then that's your problem.

If you don't want to move, that's your self-inflicted decision. But don't try to justify it as some great sacrifice when you lose literally nothing besides having to wait 1-2mins every now and then to swap servers.
You either exploit the openings in Square's housing design to get what you want (Going a solo FC route or by utilizing the golden ticket that is Dynamis ward openings / new servers), or you suffer with perpetual 200+ bid rounds until 2ish years from now when Square may put in more wards in 7.1...that will also be almost guaranteed to be 200+ bid rounds.

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"Coordinate Hanging Out With Friends": No one does this.

Also the how much money to get re-married?
Also how much time spent making relationships with FC members and easily able to visit the FC house?

No one is leaving any of that behind unless a large is guaranteed. Give me a guaranteed large in NA and I will transfer instantly. Until then, stop with that argument. Do you own a large yourself or does your FC have one?

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There's little difference between me teleporting to a friends house to hang out with them when I know they're online and me using data center travel then teleporting to a friends house to hang out with them when I know they're online.

Why would you need to get remarried in game?

Why would you have to remake relationships with your current FC's members? If you're referring to joining a FC on your new world, forming relationships will happen over time just as it does in real life as we change jobs, join new social groups, etc. You don't have to invest time in it. It will happen naturally if you're a decent person others would like to know better. As for visiting a FC house, see hanging out with friends.

I got a LB large on Marilith during the first lottery when the data center opened. I had the winning number 1 out of 1 entries. The only larges that were getting any sort of competition were the Mist 5/35s. My Marilith FC likewise could have gotten a large uncontested when FCs were finally able to bid but opted for a Mist medium instead (also uncontested), deciding they didn't really need a large.

The same will be happening on the remaining 4 worlds to be added to Dynamis later this year. I wouldn't be surprised if there was even less competition then. Those who were struggling to get what they wanted back on their old home worlds and were willing to transfer did so when the first 4 worlds opened. There won't be many left to make the same leap when the next 4 open.

But then your problem is you have a house and you're not satisfied. Some would envy you. They'd be happy to get any house without having to move off their current home worlds.

Sometimes you have to be willing to make a change to get what you want instead of expecting everything around you to change for your benefit. Keep pining for that large. Maybe you'll get lucky in a few years.

Just had a thought… what happens with your island if you server transfer? Does it move with you? Or would you have to start it over? Is Doma still finished or do you have to do that over? Because I remember being told that the new servers didn’t have to do the Firmament restoration stuff, it’s just there, so I’m curious what happens with that type of content, if it’s just character-dependent on world-dependent. Like what monument do you all have in Firmament without doing restoration? lol That’s one of my hubby’s big attachment points to Bryn. He spent a lot of time in Firm and helped get the Blacksmith monument to win!

Honestly I am getting beat down enough that I am considering it as an option, when the new Dynamis worlds release, if I haven’t gotten what I want by then. Right now I’m content (if frustrated!) to win a small in general and wait for the one I really want, or possibly for the next 6 wards to be added, which I’m sure will be coming sometime next expansion. I’m not going through all the hassle of a transfer without at least a guaranteed chance at my dream plot. It would take a lot of work to pare down my inventory enough to even make it possible though.

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Just had a thought… what happens with your island if you server transfer? Does it move with you? Or would you have to start it over? Is Doma still finished or do you have to do that over? Because I remember being told that the new servers didn’t have to do the Firmament restoration stuff, it’s just there, so I’m curious what happens with that type of content, if it’s just character-dependent on world-dependent. Like what monument do you all have in Firmament without doing restoration? lol That’s one of my hubby’s big attachment points to Bryn. He spent a lot of time in Firm and helped get the Blacksmith monument to win!

Honestly I am getting beat down enough that I am considering it as an option, when the new Dynamis worlds release, if I haven’t gotten what I want by then. Right now I’m content (if frustrated!) to win a small in general and wait for the one I really want, or possibly for the next 6 wards to be added, which I’m sure will be coming sometime next expansion. I’m not going through all the hassle of a transfer without at least a guaranteed chance at my dream plot. It would take a lot of work to pare down my inventory enough to even make it possible though.

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good idea love. *hugs*

And I lost… to number 1! The amount of times I’ve been first on a plot and lost, and it comes up when I’m not. I hate RNG and clearly it hates me too. :(

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Just had a thought… what happens with your island if you server transfer? Does it move with you? Or would you have to start it over? Is Doma still finished or do you have to do that over? Because I remember being told that the new servers didn’t have to do the Firmament restoration stuff, it’s just there, so I’m curious what happens with that type of content, if it’s just character-dependent on world-dependent. Like what monument do you all have in Firmament without doing restoration? lol That’s one of my hubby’s big attachment points to Bryn. He spent a lot of time in Firm and helped get the Blacksmith monument to win!

Honestly I am getting beat down enough that I am considering it as an option, when the new Dynamis worlds release, if I haven’t gotten what I want by then. Right now I’m content (if frustrated!) to win a small in general and wait for the one I really want, or possibly for the next 6 wards to be added, which I’m sure will be coming sometime next expansion. I’m not going through all the hassle of a transfer without at least a guaranteed chance at my dream plot. It would take a lot of work to pare down my inventory enough to even make it possible though.

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Yes, both Doma Restoration and Island Sanctuary does carry over to Dymanis, mine were just the way I had them when I moved to Seraph from Exodus. I missed out on the Firmament stuff, so that one, I'm not too sure.

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It's not that hard to move to Dynamis and coordinate hanging out with friends, someone in this very same thread did it without issues, and their fc friends even come to their plot on Dynamis to hang out. Just stop.

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Its not the same for everyone, especialy if you do have friends which already have a medium or large house. Server travel is on that still an option since you can still convince close friends to travel to whatever server is needed (sometimes switching to yours, sometimes to theirs). But DC travel is just a step further and because of that unlikely.

And there are also linkshell based friendgroups, usualy these arent made cross server. Which essentialy makes the server of the linkshell the default, moving away is on that a bigger step.

Depending on the personal situation, moving away might not be an option at all.

And that while duty instances are already easily cross server... The easiest step to improve here would be that housing areas are also cross server. And while i know more information needs to be transferred for this compared to a standard server. Housing servers dont realy need all the information for all visitors anyway. Inventory and chocobo saddlebag might generaly be enough. And otherwise the retainer bells could just have their information loaded in later on (upon calling one, it then might display an error that its waiting for retainer information to load - which is fine).

Cross server usage for housing areas can resolve a lot of server related conflicts, as now even the less popular servers with plenty of houses become usable for the well populated servers. As in that case you dont need to move away from your server anymore. And note, if needed a server name purely for housing purposes can be introduced, which is a lot more efficient compared to the current state in which you end up with a few very poorly populated servers.

Having the server location in the address is already something most 'event advertisers' already do anyway. Its not going to be a big hassle for players to adjust, as they will very quickly get the servernames to be shortened to 1 or 2 characters (R-Wxx-Pxx for for example a ragnarok house).

That players are forced to move is a design inflicted problem. Housing should never have been tied to servers on that part, or be made as flexible as duties. Players simply just set demands of what is reasonable. Moving to a diffirent server for just a side activity is never reasonable.

Put a 45 day cooldown on relocating

No back to back relocation trolls then

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Put a 45 day cooldown on relocating

No back to back relocation trolls then

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At least relocation opens up another plot to be bid on. I’m seeing a lot of sprout winners lately, so plots are drying up.

And as someone who’s been trying to relocate for over 6 months now, I haven’t won once! If someone is managing to win multiple lottos in a row, I want to know their secret! I sure miss my instant relo. :(