Dungeons and ANGRY PEOPLE !

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Originally Posted by Snugglebutt

Your a liar. That's plain to see even if you try to hide being 'in my experience' as there is no way in hell that you leveled from 1 to 50 multiplied by five dungeon character classes all to level 50 yet never once had a bad veteran player being rude or angry

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Trying to remember angry veteran players while leveling four times. . .Yeah, drawing a blank.

Trying to remember angry newbies while leveling four times. . .Nope, still drawing a blank.

Guess I'm a liar, though.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

Believe what you want. Probably at least 90% of my runs, not one word is ever said other than "Hello." It's not that much of a stretch to see how someone can go without meeting rude players.

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I wish I could like this more than once.

Believe what you want. Probably at least 90% of my runs, not one word is ever said other than "Hello." It's not that much of a stretch to see how someone can go without meeting rude players.

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Originally Posted by Elim

Honestly, the only angry people I see in low level dungeons are the newbies themselves.

Conversations in these cases tend to go like this:

Vet: Hey, be careful about not standing in x AoE.
Newbie: DONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN'TTTTTTTT YOU FREAKING DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDARRRRRRRREEEEEE TELLL ME WHAT TO DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *FLIPS TABLE* *EYEBALLS BULDGE OUT OF HEAD FROM RAGE*

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This is SO TRUE. It has gotten to the point that I don't give advice to new players anymore, unless they specifically ask for it, because I'm sick of getting hated on for giving assistance.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

I've also not had that experience with veteran players being rude or angry. ....

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Go do some Brayflox HM on the DF. Perhaps the speed runner don't infest that one nearly as much as they used too. Go do expert roulette then. Go as your WHM, either way if you slow down a little bit, watch them speed runner get mad at you. It doesn't take much. Chat with your FC for 10 seconds and they get mad at you, I've seen them abuse the vote kick and kick a WHM that got thru the first boss just fine on Stone Vigil HM, but because the WHM was chatting with other members of our FC, the tank went got himself wipe, they voted to kick the WHM. Then everyone had to abandon because the wait got long. LOL.

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Originally Posted by Elazu

This is SO TRUE. .......

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Go bogus. Someone must not be able to detect a troll properly. That green sprout is just cover for the trolls using their alt smurf characters. Trolls act like that, because they want to troll you and get a rise out of you. Vote kick is what you do the trolls.

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Originally Posted by NyarukoW

Go do some Brayflox HM on the DF. Perhaps the speed runner don't infest that one nearly as much as they used too. Go do expert roulette then. Go as your WHM, either way if you slow down a little bit, watch them speed runner get mad at you. It doesn't take much. Chat with your FC for 10 seconds and they get mad at you, I've seen them abuse the vote kick and kick a WHM that got thru the first boss just fine on Stone Vigil HM, but because the WHM was chatting with other members of our FC, the tank went got himself wipe, they voted to kick the WHM. Then everyone had to abandon because the wait got long. LOL.

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I wiped multiple Brayflox speedrun attempts when I was still new. All I ever got was "sorry, didn't check healer's gear."

Elim, I explained why your doing so in my opinion already, that you saw a thread pointing out the flaws of veteran players and somehow felt they were referring to you or all veteran players like when misogyny is brought up in discussions a lot of men become defensive even if not referring to them personally. Like in those types situations it seems you felt in this case the need to deflect it back on the new players by coming up with a lie when saw veteran players getting some blame for bad behavior...but you took that lie to far which made it blatant as far as myself and others have pointed out. If your going to make something up at least make it believable, like you comes across many or a lot, even mostly in your experience is more believable than only new players nonsense you claim.

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Originally Posted by Snugglebutt

Elim, I explained why your doing so in my opinion already, that you saw a thread pointing out the flaws of veteran players and somehow felt they were referring to you or all veteran players like when misogyny is brought up in discussions a lot of men become defensive even if not referring to them personally. Like in those types situations it seems you felt in this case the need to deflect it back on the new players by coming up with a lie when saw veteran players getting some blame for bad behavior...but you took that lie to far which made it blatant as far as myself and others have pointed out.

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Wow. . .you have some serious issues with logic.

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

Wow. . .you have some serious issues with logic.

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Not at all.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

I wiped multiple Brayflox speedrun attempts when I was still new. All I ever got was "sorry, didn't check healer's gear."

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You obviously didn't run it daily for the next 100 days. But some people can get lucky. But the speed runners will do that full pull up that bridge and cuss at with "!@#$%^& no heals?". Seen that at least a dozen times. And sometimes the tank rage quit and strand everyone else. I even had a tank tell the healer, that because they "expletive" can't heal the full pull it was destroying all the fun he had in game and he was going to quit.

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

Wow. . .you have some serious issues with logic.

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No your logic is broken. You don't understand logic. Your memory alone is not an adequate sample set and it could be faulty as you say " still drawing a blank." Or it could be that your had chats turned off and never see any of the yelling. Or you do not consider any of the yelling between players as "angry". Or you could have done all your dungeons with your FCs so avoid any of the DF fund and drama. In any case it is your logic that is faulty.

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

Wow. . .you have some serious issues with logic.

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Well, to be fair, his first language may not be English which would explain a lot. I probably should have asked earlier in the conversation. I know what it's like since I have French as my secondary language. lol