Vote Kick if watching cut scene? Dev Pls Respond

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Originally Posted by kanjitai

Yeah I was kind of worried about using this analogy. I meant no offense by it. I think it shows how majority rule can lead down a very slippery slope.

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Agree with your point but I can't agree with ever using the Nazi Holocaust as an analogy for actions in a video game.

They just need to make the decision to watch or skip cutscenes apply to the entire group. If everybody agrees that they all want to skip a cutscene, then that cutscene will be skipped. If there is anybody in the group who wants to watch a cutscene, then everyone will watch that entire cutscene. That way there would be no way to single out the player who was watching it either to kick him, harrass him about it, or leave him behind.

If it's a cutscene with dialog that needs to be advanced, this would require setting a minimum time (reasonable for at least a fast reader to read that dialog) before it can be advanced. There would still be a few seconds difference in how long different players take to finish, based on how fast they read and advance through it, but anyone continuing through it legitimately would finish pretty near the same time as the rest of the group. On the other hand, if someone went AFK during the scene, it would become obvious when the rest of the group had been finished for a couple minutes and they're still in the scene. The vote-to-kick feature could be temporarily disabled right as people come out of the cutscene, but reenabled a couple minutes after its minimum time, so as to kick anyone who went AFK during it.

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Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi

sure he does

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So, the player has to actually be AFK? What about if they "AFK" by alt tabbing and just moving around every minute or two?

So, either the OP's concerns are real, or the vote kick system is utterly useless.

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Originally Posted by kanjitai

Yeah I was kind of worried about using this analogy. I meant no offense by it. I think it shows how majority rule can lead down a very slippery slope.

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You compared people who wants to skip cutscenes to Natzis. Yes, you absolutely meant to be offensive. One of the most offensive things I've read in this forum. Disgusting.

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Originally Posted by KraggyKor

The problem is that SE don't understand the utter selfish and self-centred attitude of many 'western' players. I doubt very much that any such 'CS-watcher kicking' will happen on JP servers, by and large JP players are not like that, on the NA/EU servers I expect it'll be common place.

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What a racist thing to say. What makes you think it is only western players that are self-centered and selfish?

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Originally Posted by Bossycow

You compared people who wants to skip cutscenes to Natzis. Yes, you absolutely meant to be offensive. One of the most offensive things I've read in this forum. Disgusting.

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Again it was wrong of me to use that analogy. The principal is the same. The way some people in our community have verbally assaulted others for watching cut scenes or not doing things there way would get them arrested in real life if they were to say that to someone's face. It would be taken as a threat, abuse or assault. So again I say I'm sorry for the analogy.

I should have phrased it different but where does it end? If people are allowed to do these things what's to stop it from progressing further?

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Originally Posted by Despite

Pretty much every dungeon I've been in someone told me to skip the cutscenes.. not ask. Told.

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This is the number one reason why I just go with majority Free Company members, and maybe take one DF person along. Watching cutscenes will not that THAT much out of the dungeon timer, that you must rush through.

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Originally Posted by kanjitai

Again it was wrong of me to use that analogy. The principal is the same. The way some people in our community have verbally assaulted others for watching cut scenes or not doing things there way would get them arrested in real life if they were to say that to someone's face. It would be taken as a threat, abuse or assault. So again I say I'm sorry for the analogy.

I should have phrased it different but where does it end? If people are allowed to do these things what's to stop it from progressing further?

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Thank you for the apology. Nazi and Racist slurs have no place in even spirited discussions of video game playstyles.

I think the main concern is that people can use it to grief and luckily that falls under harassment. Think about it, if people are going to kick you for watching cutscenes and you are a damage dealer, which means you probably already waited 20+ minutes to get in, to be kicked out 5 minutes into the dungeon for watching a cutscene? Yeah, I will be hitting that report button faster then my mouse can act on it.

Also, they keep server / duty finder logs. Just report the time, when, where and with who'm and they can easily retrieve the names over multiple servers, tied at that exact moment, with you in a group. Databases are the key here and they have them.

I do not think you understand how things work, mainly life in general.

The majority of the public wants a vote to kick feature, of course this comes with many limitations to attempt to keep people from abusing, but YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT.

A vote to kick feature serves one purpose and one purpose only, TO KICK a person or persons out of the group due to majority vote.

The reason does not matter, sorry it really does not.

If you are in a group of 8 and NO one else needs to watch CS, sorry but they should have the right to vote kick you. What else would it be for?

I myself do not use the DF to find party members, but with the new features coming up on 2.1 I likely will quite often.

If I get qued with someone who is wasting the parties time by randomly afking and not doing their best to progress the dungeon I should have the right to initiate a vote kick.

Sorry if the reason behind the vote kick bothers you, but that is life, grow up a bit.