Ran into a tank that didn't like that my ninja was 218 ILV, (have a 225 drk, felt like dpsing for a change, casual player) that harassed me and told me to "get the __ out" of the run. Went on about how I'm not bothering to gear up and wasting their time as my DPS would be too low for them to clear. They sat at the start and refused to move, threatening to kick me if I didn't leave. Reported them for harassment and left.
Now the other day a friend who just got back into the game after being away for over 6 months ran into the very same tank... (they were reported by everyone)
http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5065/hzwbGK.png
http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/7594/5TjCeP.png
So running expert for lore is 'refusing to gear up'
Also I tanked their run when they barded, the run didn't take any more longer than normal.
Also note after they posted the above on tumblr (with names visible) others came forward of their own run ins and reports. This tanks been this way for over a year, and even brags on this forum not caring as there untouchable because none of the many reports ever led to anything.
Needless to say I'm tanking all their runs from now on, because elitests like that should not be allowed to ruin the game for people.
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07-04-2016, 08:31 AMTaiine
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07-04-2016, 09:31 AMAnienaiYa gotta link the Tumblr!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Taiine
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07-04-2016, 09:37 AMTaiineI would but as it has the names visible, I don't want to get in trouble here for name shaming. As is I took their screenys and blured the names myself to post here. But the tumblr post has over 130 replies, and some are other horror stories from others who also delt with the tank in question.Quote:
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07-04-2016, 09:41 AMAnaviAnaelQuote:
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07-04-2016, 09:58 AMTaiinehttp://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/2466/T2t8ZP.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by AnaviAnael
There's one of the replys from the tumblr on the tank.
http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/8237/9Jwml0.png
and more replies like that... They been doing it for years.. yet.. nothing has been done at all.
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07-04-2016, 10:30 AMRaquelleAvarosa
Wiping City of Mhach. Reminds me of my own nightmare.
I went in as a Astrologian and the other DF healer was a Scholar.
1st boss, he was healing a little.
2nd boss, he was constantly on the floor and subsequently AFK-ed for the rest of the raid.
3rd boss, I had to solo heal and get help from the healers from other alliances. I voted dismiss on him but got rejected because JPs are nice people and they don't really vote people off.
Before 4th boss, my 2nd attempt of vote dismiss got through since the rest of the party finally realised he was not there throughout the whole Ozma fight.
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07-04-2016, 10:41 AMcammiPeople like that need to stop playing any games as I bet they aren't anywhere near as good as they think they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taiine
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07-04-2016, 10:42 AMAnaviAnaelI feel absolutely fortunate I've never run into this person. How awful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taiine
BTW, please encourage your friend to stick around with the game. It really sours my stomach to know that they came back to the game and day 1 this happens. I'd hate to see someone leave for good because of one jerk SE refuses to ban. -
07-04-2016, 10:51 AMAlphaFox
I just fail to see how GMs can claim multiple reports but just go "meh" to it. On the upside, nice to know I could turn into a complete ass and not have any worries :D However I wouldn't do that, I'm way to nice.
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07-04-2016, 11:10 AMAlien_GamerI'm not condoning the player or the GMs for this but I suspect he gets away with it because of the blanket rule of "play how you want". The GMs may agree that he should be banned but unable to because of the policies they have to support on the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaFox
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07-04-2016, 11:20 AMAlphaFoxI mean yeah its the whole "play how you want" but when your way is literally trolling and refusing to play before you even begin then your just a pompous ass who deserves to be kicked. My way could be that I could kick all Roes from the party cus I don't like them or other lalafells cus I deserve to be the only one. =/Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer
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07-04-2016, 01:21 PMTaiineQuote:
Originally Posted by AnaviAnael
Yeah it was pretty rough but there sticking around. There going to be joining me on my roulettes while I tank on my drk. Really, are you under geared? Alright I'll do normal pulls. New to a run? I'll pause, let you enjoy the cutscenes, and go over the boss's.
But yeah, if you wanna see this in full, look up "Midgardsormr" on tumblr, and look for someone with a fat cat avatar (me). I wont post it here as it does showcase the user names, but you can find it if you want.
http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/5236/tVBhLi.png
enjoy yet another..
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07-04-2016, 01:30 PMSnugglebuttSE can only ban someone who breaks the ToS, no matter how many people report a person just because he/she may be obnoxious and arrogant. SE cannot ban someone just because x amount of people report them, there could also be campaigns or 4chan style trolling of a random person whom multiple people might choose to report just to join the bandwagon without ever meeting aforementioned person. Now I have no idea who the person your referring to is and have no intention of going off to read that other site but my point is that bans are not based off how many people make a report. What matters is the context of the report, whether the information in the report is accurate/true and most importantly whether they broke the ToS or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taiine
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07-04-2016, 04:22 PMObysuca
Incoming more "how can people be this bad?!" stories ;w;
So, today I did some Bismarck EX, through DF (not the best way to get a bird, but I was bored and needed something to do while FC members got on so we could have a decent/good pt for it and get us some birds). Now, all of you know that this fight can and has been beaten at i170/i180. Well, this was the most special run ever >_> Everyone was i220+. We didn't have enough dps to kill the snakes. -
07-04-2016, 05:07 PMTaranTatsuuchiI'm fairly certain disruptive behavior is against the terms of service...Quote:
Originally Posted by Snugglebutt
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07-04-2016, 06:31 PMFluestergras
Was doing trial roulette on my BLM and got Cape Westwind. Nice, fast Esos. While the new ninja watches the cutscene, one of the WHMs /slaps me. I feel like wtf and answer with /surprised, just to get another /slap from her. I /cry and she answers "YES LET ME BATH IN YOUR TEARS!!". Telling the party that she kinda scares me (in fact I was laughing my ass off), the other WHM /comforts me. Then the ninja finishes the cutscene and asks what to do, we tell him to "just burn the motherf***er", so we do. After the fight is done, this weird WHM /slaps me again and says, "I have an eye on you, Arutemus. We'll meet again."
I'm just like, what. I don't even know who she is, I looked her up on Lodestone to check if she might have seen me somewhere before, but she's not even on my server. ...I don't know what I've done to deserve her /slaps :D
Later, I was spamming some ARF on my WHM. One run was pretty smooth, but during the ascians fight, I lagged and thus died to AOEs. The summoner raised me, but before I could accept it, the battle ended and Ascian Prime spawned. I was still dead, and it took about 10 seconds before I got an option to do anything, then the option to accept the raise appeared. I actually wanted to release to get rid of the weakness debuff, but as this option kinda didn't show up, I accepted the raise and respawned inside the boss room, hoping that I won't facepull the boss by doing this. But... there was no boss. Actually, nobody but me was there, the tank asked me "where the heck did you raise to!?" So, I was all alone in something that seemed to be a copy of the area I was supposed to be, fortunately I could exit and re-enter the area to find my group mates again. Was actually kinda fun, I was joking that I'm Gilgamesh in disguise and I found a secret dimension :D -
07-04-2016, 08:42 PMEvumeimei
Maybe I shouldn't have waited until Sunday to do the Lost City of Mhach because it was a slightly painful experience. One of the things I've noticed the most, and which causes a lot of deaths more often then not, is healers not cleansing that darn bleed during the Ozma fight. I have died a number of times because of it. Yesterday I even let them know to cleanse it (in case they were new) and I still died because I got two stacks.
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07-04-2016, 08:47 PMIlenyaTo be fair, depending on timing and luck, the healers could be dealing with Acceleration Bomb when the bleed stacks hit, or people being stupid and sharing the stacks. I've had times where I had to ignore the bleeds because I was dealing with other slightly more important things than the bleed DoT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evumeimei
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07-04-2016, 08:48 PMLarkspur
Pretty much during the triangle phase you should be spreading out if you can so the bleeds affect as few people as possible.
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07-04-2016, 08:58 PMEvumeimeiYep. I always keep away from others during that phase but RNG is RNG, so sometimes I get targeted multiple times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Larkspur
Well, when I see myself slowly but surely dying to a bleed stack, and then watch from the floor as our MCH gets a bleed stack and slowly dies without any help... That's two party members the healer has to rez now which is much more mana intensive than a quick cleanse. Or, you know, they could even try and pop a regen on us until they have time to cleanse. I get it, though, the fight can be intense to heal in depending on how the party performs. But this has happened often enough that I can't help but wonder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ilenya
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07-04-2016, 09:27 PMErryK
I have to vent about this run, I just did not have the patience to deal with these people... I queued for Leveling roulette for the 100 Esos, I have quite a bit of patience when it comes to newbies and how they deal with mechanics... but even before the pull, my patience was just immediately draining. I got Brayflox's Longstop, so we spawn in, the barrier disappears, I cast Protect... Paladin then proceeds to cast Protect afterwards too... okay, I mean it was up anyways but no big deal, better a PLD who knows about Protect than one who doesn't. So then on the first pull, he Shield Lobs and runs to the single mob and just wails at it, along with the Dragoon and the Bard, so now I have to heal so I start using Cure on him... I've grabbed aggro on two mobs. At this point, the Bard begins to sing Mage's Ballad, even though I am at nearly max MP, but I deduced that the Paladin has no clue how to AoE aggro, so back to my main point.
After the first group of mobs are dead, I try typing to tell him to apply Sword Oath and use Flash but he just goes and pulls the second set, I immediately follow and start casting Cures on him again, and again, I've grabbed aggro, but THIS time, it's on two Colibris and a Galago, so I'm taking about 300-400 damage every now and then, I went down to 104 HP and barely saved myself with a crit Cure II. At this point I am fuming to my SO on Discord, because the Bard is gimping their own damage for nearly no gain, and the tank just has no clue how to play his class. He applies Sword Oath after the second set of mobs just as I tell him to, then I tell him he has to use Flash to aggro mobs, got no response from him. After that, the bard jokingly says "no more songs xd", which to me is a little bit douchey considered I am helping the Paladin. We finally get to the first boss after the Bard was running around kiting a mob, and I stood there trying to heal everyone. At this point I was contemplating just up and leaving the dungeon, but I just went through with it. The tank pulls the boss and ignores the adds that are with the boss. I end up aggroing two of them, while the Dragoon tanks and takes down one of them, while the Paladin is just dancing around with the huge pelican. The Bard, meanwhile, stood behind the barrier line and got themselves locked out, they literally stood still and just did damage from behind the line, then when the barrier went up, they acted surprised... please, that purple line has been there since Level 15 and it's hard to miss...
At this point, I am at my wit's end... I have dealt with a tank who does not know what Flash is. A Bard who seems to think "I have a brand new shiny ability, I should use it instead of reading the tooltip that comes with it!", along with thinking "Ooh there's a line on the ground, and the boss is on the other side, let me stay on this side." I should not have to explain a mechanic that has existed for nearly 15 levels now. Fair enough about Flash and Mage's Ballad but they didn't listen to what I told them, so at this point I just posted a huge paragraph about how you should read your tooltips and how you should pay more attention to your surroundings, and then left. I just couldn't deal with the stupid there. -
07-04-2016, 11:02 PMAosha
A story from a while ago:
Got Darkhold in leveling roulette. In my party was a summoner. Sorry, no, an arcanist. A level 48 arcanist.
When the tank asked him to stop his carbuncle from knocking back mobs all the time, his response was to unsummon the pet entirely.
When asked why he hadn't unlocked summoner yet his response was "I don't want to waste my time." To this day I am still confused by his reasoning. -
07-05-2016, 01:31 AMSnugglebutt
Something I am not proud of is my alt character which I was leveling a MNK on for sole purpose of unlocking all zones/flight paths and leve NPC's (originally intended to be a pure DoH/DoL character), I leveled it all the the way to 60 without even unlocking a single 50+ job skill. It simply slipped my mind to do so because in no dungeon (MSQ story dungeons/trials) all the way up to 60 did I struggle to do sufficient DPS to clear the place in a reasonable time, not a single person ever commented on the fact I was not using a single 50-60 MNK job skill.
I don't use the MNK anymore (don't like playing MNK in general) since hitting 60 though because it served it's purpose which was to unlock HW, the flight paths and such. I would certainly have never tried doing the hard 60 content on it without picking up the job skills post-50 but I just find it funny that I forgot to pick them up and how no one ever complained about it. If someone had complained about it I may have gone off and picked them up but since no one ever did and I was able to clear all the content required without problem and in a timely manner so I forgot to pick them up. I was not carried either and my DPS was on par with most other DPS I came across even without them. -
07-05-2016, 05:18 AMPoisonous
Second time tanking Aurum Vale. Let the party know at the beginning. Start pulling mobs carefully in the first room. Notice we're getting a lot of extra mobs running at us, go WTF? and realize the SCH is running around pulling half the room. We wipe (with aggro largely on me). Second try. SCH immediately pulls a mob, also attracting attention of the Nix. We wipe. Third try. "Please don't pull for me, it doesn't help" I ask.
For the rest of the run things go a bit smoother. I notice things getting pulled still ("I just asked you not to pull". "It was the pet." I don't recall if SCH pets can aggro new mobs on their own but they certainly don't run in spurts across the entire room on their own like this SCH's was!). Get to Coincounter, things are going OK. SCH and NIN both get hit by the big AoE, SCH doesn't heal either of them up enough and they both get hit again and die. "GG". BLM and I finish Coincounter off the last 50%.
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07-05-2016, 07:19 AMNaesakiAshwellI guess it probably boils down to the Monk's main rotation doesn't really change from 50-60, you just get additional skills to your off global cooldowns. So unless the other party members know what to look out for they'd probably never bat an eye at you not using forbidden chakra and elixir field etc.Quote:
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07-05-2016, 09:31 AMTaiineYeah, harassment, threatening, and refusing to do the run, sitting there until the timer runs out... They been reported many many times over the past year or more. They even grab that there untouchable on the forums, and how there views are valid and everyone else that isn't top notch sucks and should leave the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi
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07-05-2016, 09:34 AMAwful
This isn't a bad story it was a good experience actually I que'd up for lvling roulette on my Drk to get some fast Esos before work and I got into a group with all sprouts in Satasha normal and I asked them how they liked the game. They responded back with it's pretty fun just want gear and get their mounts which I said it was soon to not spoil anything. The healer made mistakes and got locked out but we were talking the whole time and they learned from what I taught them about throwing some DoTs out when you can in Cleric Stance, showing them how to tank and set up positionals for their Mnk in the party.
It was a great feeling to have all the positiveness in the group most dungeon groups don't talk at all these guys were talking a lot and asking questions about later gameplay. Sucks they weren't on my server or i'd invite them into my FC was awesome teaching people about the game and communicating effectively by saying "DPS the clams when they're open!", marked adds for them and everything wish I had runs like this everyday. -
07-05-2016, 10:17 AMArikDimasI actually had a couple of similar experiences in leveling roulette this week. Had a gladiator who was only using his riot blade combo so he was having issue holding aggro. I just assumed it was because new tank vs over geared people until I noticed that I kept seeing the animation for riot blade. I even went and changed the combat log to only show allied actions to make sure that was right. When I asked why he was only using the Riot Blade combo, he said because he thought it did more damage. As I was typing out the differences between riot blade and savage blade he actually read the skill descriptions of the two and realized his mistake. He then started using his savage blade combo and was doing better at holding aggro. I made sure to send him to the hall of novice as well to at least get the ring and help him out with some pretty simple basic stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Awful
Next was Halatali. Still a gladiator, but his issue was more of the new player vs over geared issue, though he still did good at holding aggro. I decided to check his player info and noticed he only had gladiator leveled, and on a whim checked the sprout pug as well, same issue. So at the end of the dungeon I asked the two if they knew about cross class actions. The pug was just an alt on a different server while the gladiator was completely knew and had no idea about them. So we took a couple minutes of me explaining cross class actions to the tank, which classes he can pull from when he becomes a paladin and what levels in each he should get. Despite knowing them, the pug stayed around as well and when I told the tank about the hall of novice, they didn't know it was a thing and decided to go there as well for the leveling ring.
My finally one was in Satasha which also had a gladiator tank. He was doing ok during the run, lost aggro here and there, being the only one not synced. So at the end of the dungeon the tank asks me and I think it was the healer who was still there, might have been the other dps, if there was anything he was doing wrong that was causing him to lose aggro so much during the dungeon. We explained to him that it was more of a gear issue, couldn't really critique him as I wasn't giving his rotation much attention. Just like the other two, after talking, I tell him about the hall of novice for the ring and than I spent some time talking with the other person after the tank left.
It's definitely nice when you run into people that actually accept the help you try and give them, or go out of their way to ask for ways to improve themselves. -
07-05-2016, 11:42 AMRLofOBFL
If everyone did play perfectly we wouldn't be able to have this entertaining thread anymore
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07-05-2016, 02:32 PMGalaktica
WTF happened to Ramuh HM? I've been spamming trials for poetics and the last 10 times I've done it, people are just eating the orbs whenever they pop up so when someone finally does get tethered, there are no orbs to eat. I asked someone not to do that and the dummy replied "does it matter?" Yes, you imbecile, it clearly matters because the NIN I'm tethered to is literally killing himself because he won't stop attacking and I can't break the tether BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY ORBS TO EAT.
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07-05-2016, 02:36 PMFrederick22you know what is worst? a troll on ramuh ex, a ninjawe had completly ignore the add face and was still atacking ramuh. Wost he did LB, of coruse we couldnt kill adds on time. After the wipe he disconnected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaktica
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07-05-2016, 03:08 PMLarkspurKinda wish the Hall of Novice was a mandatory thing and taught more than just basics, such as the cross class skills you mentioned and recommended skills to help each job do better.Quote:
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07-05-2016, 03:19 PMChiramuMore advanced classes should be offered at the Hall of the Novice too. Cleric Stance dancing should be offered to teach people about it :(.Quote:
Originally Posted by Larkspur
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07-05-2016, 03:22 PMLarkspurSomething like Hall of the Advanced at level 50 and Hall of the Expert at level 60?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiramu
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07-05-2016, 04:37 PMPoisonous
Aurum Vale was rough tonight. FC leader and I spammed it a bit as healer/BLM. Got a lot of bad tanks, but the worst was a GLADIATOR that mostly just spammed Halones. At the 15 minute mark we were just getting through the first room but boss was pulled before we could vote abandon. We voted abandon promptly after the wipe, though.
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07-05-2016, 04:56 PMFluestergras
Aurum Vale in leveling roulette with a friend, he's paladin and I'm AST. The dragoon never uses Heavy Thrust, keeps standing in the yellow stuff and barely dodges any AOE, getting herself killed twice during the second boss fight. The bard is okayish until she hits level 50, then she's suddenly more or less just autoattacking with a handfull of weaponskills used. At one point my paladin friend stops to write something in party chat, meanwhile everyone waits, but then the bard suddenly runs to the next trash group and attacks it with Rain Death. Her apology is "wait, you weren't ready? I'm in TS with friends, not paying much attention".
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Paladin grabs the mobs, we kill them and then proceed to the final boss. Bard gets 5 stacks but doesn't eat a fruit and stands at the far end of the arena, out of my healing range (which she also did during the other boss fights, first one was a pain to keep her up), and when adds spawn, none of the DPS uses any AOE skills, in fact they even focus the boss when the mini morbols hatch and eat the paladin. We wipe, I tell the DPS to unleash AOE hell to kill the adds, but as I don't trust them (specially this bard ._.), I stop to change my crossclasses and replace Aero with Blizzard II.
Second try, adds spawn again, bard doesn't do anything, dragoon hits the adds in single target, so it's me Blizzard II'ing them to death, which surprisingly works (this spell deals double digit damage! Imagine how fast the shit dies when an actual DPS deals with it ._.). Bard gets hit by bad breath, I cleanse the debuffs, then she eats a second bad breath. Now I decide keeping her up is nothing but a waste of mana, so I let her die, don't raise her and we 3-man this for the last ~20%.
After the clear, I say "people should stay away from TS if they're not able to talk and play at the same time", and the bard is like "are you f***ing serious, I'm running this dungeon for the 5th time today and never died until now".
Of course, it's the healer's fault if the DPS is distracted. But whatever, I just shrug it off and leave the dungeon. F*** Aurum Vale ;_; -
07-05-2016, 10:04 PMFarronFair
Duty Finder: Trials...I was trying to do about ten trials a day so I could get the trophy on PS4 for doing 100 instanced raids/dungeons...
I got Ramuh three times in a row (my least favourite because people always forget the adds and we always get wiped.)
After those three I got Good King Moggle Mog XII. In the party chat I expressed my relief that it wasn't Ramuh again and how I can't handle his beard because it's where he keeps all his secrets.
Someone else called him a dirty grandpa. It was a bit messed up but it made me laugh quite a lot and that was probably the most interesting trials thing that happened.
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07-05-2016, 10:21 PMMalicewolfI hope it wasn't Ramuh Ex you were doing... Even unsync'd that bearded (insert adjective) is a pain in the butt that wipes groups all the time. Not that hard if people actually follow the mechanics... but alas, that always seems to be asking too much ._.Quote:
Originally Posted by FarronFair
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07-05-2016, 10:48 PMErsilon
A couple of days ago, I did leveling roulette on my scholar with a couple of FC mates, and we end up in Brayflox with a sprout paladin. At first, I was a bit grumbling unhappily to myself because level sync takes away my Leeches in a dungeon with debuffs. During the second boss, the pally quickly gains control of the add mob and tanks it along with the boss. It's smooth, and I check his info to see if pally's just an alt job. It's not, so this guy's gotta be an alt character, I'm thinking.
Next pull, the start of the water area, he ends up grabbing everything in the first part of the area, and I'm healing furiously to keep him up why am I healing so hard wtf his gear was on level - oh, I'm just dumb and in Cleric's. Toggle that off, and it's easy peasy mode to keep him up, and if I hadn't left Eos on sic, we'd have wiped horribly. I feel horrible when he compliments my healing and jokingly admit that I was dumb and in CS.
Now, the tank admits he's not sure where to go. This sprout is on his first characer, and he's doing a damn good job tanking an instance he doesn't know except maybe from a guide online. Where's the cloning machine? We get to the last boss after murdering the coeurl, and I ask if he needs to know about the fight, and after his confirmation, we explain the mechanics. Proceeds to be one of the smoothest runs I've ever seen in there, and the dragon goes down PDQ, never even has a chance to heal from his own poisony barf on the ground.
I meant to ask what server he was on, but he left before I could. I wish I remembered his name. -
07-05-2016, 11:37 PMObysucaLast time I got Ramuh, we had an ot war who ONLY ran around the arena grabbing orbs, not even touching Ramuh or adds :/ Worst part, they weren't newQuote:
Originally Posted by Galaktica