It isnt outliers and it's across all levels of play that people find healers unfun. That's why the thread and the amount of positive reactions it had is remarkable. For a long time I thought it really was just the raiders that are bored of playing healers but actually it turns out it's unfun for many casuals aswell. That's why they're giving feedback and why many are stopping to play healer. You say "why do you insist on it" when stopping to play healer because it's perceived as unfun is describing exactly what the plan is. Which leads me to the conclusion that you just dont like seeing critical feedback about the game being posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kohashi
Here's why I will not support this healer strike.
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07-02-2024, 02:02 AMSaraide
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07-02-2024, 03:19 AMCazzT
If you're taking any job that can heal others (RDM, DNC, SMN, etc), you're not going in without a healer. Self-heals are extremely weak and are meant only as an emergency to hopefully survive until someone with an actual heal can help you.
I largely don't care much about this healer strike, I don't think it will result in the change they're hoping for. Strikes rarely do, after all, and even less so in an MMO where nothing of real world value is being impacted.
That said, healers do need changes. Or rather, encounters need changes so that healers can be healers. One-shot mechanics, body-count mechanics, spike damage mechanics... none of these are fun. Neither for the target nor for the healer. Beyond that, I won't claim to have any revelatory solutions. I don't need to be able to paint a masterpiece to recognize a masterpiece. I can see when something isn't good, even if I don't know how to fix it. The only time Healers should be thinking about DPSing is when they overgear the content. Anything before that line is crossed should be about healing and survival of the party. But I'm from old school healing, back when healers didn't have time to DPS because they had to keep the party alive. -
07-02-2024, 05:12 AMIsalaIf you're taking any job that can take a hit (DRG, BRD, BLM, etc), you're not going in without a tank.Quote:
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07-02-2024, 06:35 AMSylpharia
The reasons I don't support them is because I do not agree with their methods and their CONSTANT harrassment of other topics that remote mention the word 'healer'
I also don't think that a few hundred out of 30+ mil players refusing to play a role will do anything in the grand scheme of things so there's that 2. -
07-02-2024, 06:49 AMAsari5i really doubt they are stupid enough to believe the strike is going to do much directlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Sylpharia
they just try to get attention.... and they did get more than they would have with another random healer feedback topic. so i guess you can say that whole thing was a success. -
07-02-2024, 07:01 AMKathrynI agree with you, I've just been reading the forums over the last few days and as soon as someone mentions they like healer or are happy/not supporting the strike you have the same 5-6 people gang up on the one person calling those who like it stupid or braindead... I won't name names but they know who they are and it's absolutely abhorrent behavior and they should be ashamed of themselves.Quote:
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07-02-2024, 07:06 AMStriker44It's unfortunate for some people to hear, but it really is outliers. There were ~1.1 million active players before DT's early access started, so figure with more people coming back we're likely closer to ~1.5 million now. The "reaction" to the "strike" post is meaningless in comparison. Just look at what's happening in-game. Tanks remain the most "in need" role (I just checked on Aether this moment and the entire roulette board is Tank). It defaults to tanks even if tanks/healers are "equally" in need, but it's just further hard evidence that the amount of people involved is minuscule compared to the playerbase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saraide
Again, think about that. There's over a million people playing this game. You could put any position you wanted out there, and you'll find "many" people aligned with it. It doesn't mean there aren't many more taking different positions. That concept gets even further amplified when you look at the comments being made and realize that people finding it "unfun" do so for many different reasons which often completely contradict each other (which further limits the ability to usefully change anything).
Oh, and as one last note just to give a sense of numbers. The "strike" post is almost a month old and has just under 400 "likes". Someone made a positive hype video about DT on Youtube 4 days ago and it already has just over 850 "likes." The forums are just a very small sliver of the actual playerbase.
Just need to point out the number of players you're using is the total number of accounts that have been created over the entire life of the game, not the number of presently "active" ones.Quote:
I also don't think that a few hundred out of 30+ mil players refusing to play a role will do anything in the grand scheme of things so there's that 2.
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07-02-2024, 07:10 AMRaven2014
I wish this healer strike is real, but seeing how I play almost exclusively healer and rarely ever get a healer bonus for DF, this strike sounds like fake news.
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07-02-2024, 07:29 AMaiqaThe game/devs are explicitly asking people to post their feedback on the this forum. The healerstrike is just a firm feedback. That feedback isn't for you to act on. I am very sure that people giving the feedback aren't trying to adhere to your opinions about when it's worth giving feedback. So if there is anything in these feedback threads that is pointless, it's discussions about the validity of feedback on the forums.Quote:
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07-02-2024, 07:33 AMManamaruWhich 5-6 are swarming to intimidate those that are happy or like healer?Quote:
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