Shocked at the reduction in mage damage, quadruple mp cost, and lowered resources

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Originally Posted by Speeral

Who knew players have to think now ....

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I know...but in today's world, thinking is a hindrance, apparently.

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Originally Posted by Jin_

let me sum up the community

um "lol @ THM and ARC" "shut up CON lern to cure onry" "quit then, go play wow" "dont let the door hit you" "let the door hit you" "yer wrong im right now cure me and go passive" "servers werk fine"

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Exactly man. To those of you reading that post that kind of stuff, please work towards finding a better perspective.

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Originally Posted by Teknoman

Neptune, if you havent had the chance to attempt a solo battle against a moderate enemy/guildleve since the patch was implemented, i'd give it a shot at least once. It might not be as bad as you think, especially since enemies have been tweaked due to the new system as well.

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I haven't because I can't log in. As soon as I can, I most certainly will. I'm thinking to my last Conjurer solo, a 50sish NM in the Black Shroud. It hit for 500-600 damage, and I had about 1100 HP. The fight took about ten minutes if I remember right, and I was rank 50. Cure 3 is about 600 hp. If nothing else has changed but the MP cost of Cure 3 I would last about 70 seconds on that NM before I got wiped from running out of MP. Meanwhile, classes with better defense can keep on truckin' as their abilities are simply on recast timers.

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Originally Posted by Speeral

Who knew players have to think now ....

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yea too bad you magitek legends people cant seem to do it. If you cant understand how a job that can play a dd, buff, debuff, and main healer will be much favored over a job that can only play dd/debuff then idk how to help you.

It will end up with the group of 2 tank 2 conj 1 thm (started the party) and the rest dd. And a lot of times that thm will be interchangeable. there is no debuff/buff spell other than shadowseer from thm that a conj with proper thm gm abilities cannot use.

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Originally Posted by Dacen

It's appalling to see how many complaints there are flying around since the 1.18 update....which was hours ago.

This is what we call balancing, people. Welcome to challenge.

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I'm not sure if you read my OP but I'm upset because now Conjurer is NO challenge. What is the challenge in casting 4 buffs, then 7 Curaga 2's? Previously I was engaged in difficult solo fights, dots/buffs/enfeebles/curing/nuking/ magic bursting.. and now my class is reduced to.. cure whore. Conjurers will need to save all their MP for healing.. completely negating all of their other abilities.. and for what? Balance? Challenge? I don't think so.. it's so that a dev team lacking solutions can grasp at one, poorly.

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Originally Posted by Dubont

170 int...Harlequin gear, Jade Crook+2 and 170 Lightning Element..Thunder 2, outside of BRs, on big NMs, might do 200 dmg...if you're lucky. Purge 2 + Shock + Thunder II leads to around 300dmg, then about 5 seconds of shock dmg...so you're looking at 400 dmg (maybe) by mixing an ability and 2 spells as well as quite a bit of mp. But none of this matters now because THM's dmg is much higher now and CON is fulltime healer. Problem?

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Now we're speaking the same language!

Yeah seriously my archer can use thm abilities with awesome potency with transcendence, my conjurer with transcendence can use all my THM spells with almost no reduction in potency. Like int matters, or pie at this point till they fix stats lol. They're only really noticeable at higher levels, and really its magic pot and magic acc that people need to stack once they get to the level to feel it anyway. Its all bs and malarky. Can anyone find the stat cap for pie and int anyway, i know vit and mnd are 174, I was assuming they'd be similar.

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Originally Posted by Neptune

Let's get this man a PROMOTION! Hey, let's team up. What kind of strategies can we come up with while we're sitting in passive mode because we cast all of our MP out in cures in 30 seconds?

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Thanks. I am so glad I am not the only one who thinks this non logic is garbage

sitting around watching mp refresh = challenge
casting cure non-stop and never being able to use another spell = challenge

How about some real challenges instead of cheap shots that just make mages suck to play?

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Originally Posted by Dubont

I know...but in today's world, thinking is a hindrance, apparently.

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Yes, I will have lots of time to think while watching my mp refresh. But, you know what, I don't play videogames to stare at a bar slowly refilling - I play them, to you know, play.

Luxlex is also one my new heroes, challenge=/= mp sink, mp management is a challenge, but not an all around mp sink.

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Originally Posted by LuxLex

Yes, I will have lots of time to think while watching my mp refresh. But, you know what, I don't play videogames to stare at a bar slowly refilling - I play them, to you know, play.

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Which is why next month I will be playing 10x more Xenoblade than FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by zaviermhigo

Luxlex is also one my new heroes, challenge=/= mp sink, mp management is a challenge, but not an all around mp sink.

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And Cure 3 / Curaga 2 costing 100+ MP out of 700 or 800 MP isn't MP management.. it's MP rape!

..where's my MP rape-horn?

wtf do u mean 800 MP put some damn points into mind and have 2000+ mp is it that hard think people its not hard.....