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  1. #191
    Player GlobalVariable's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Can people please stop riding on the fact that the OP mentioned mob holding and get back to the actual issue?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilax, thread originator View Post
    Thanks for all reply guys, tbh i don't care if BST have -100% PDT, then SE should just give them 20,000,000 attack bonus while at it, so they can kill they stupid NM in 1 sec and not blocking the NM for 90 min...
    Not the issue huh?
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  2. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    A "nerf" is when they go out of their way to change something already in place, lowering it's effectiveness. SMN was never nerfed in this respect.
    Per this definition (and every other definition I'm aware of) it was. That precisely describes what happened to SMN. A certain game mechanic was already in place, one that still exists with BST an PUP, so SE definitely doesn't disagree with it in principle. Yet they went out of their way to lower its effectiveness, precisely for SMN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlobalVariable View Post
    Not the issue huh?
    No, not the issue. Look at the title. Look at what the OP proposed (opening post, not opening poster). His motivation wasn't the issue (and in fact, he didn't even mention it was his motivation, he only gave mob holding as an example of why it is an issue), the issue at hand is the actual PDT (and, according to the title, that it is "plain BS"). He made the thread, whatever he said after that may or may not have been off topic.
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    Last edited by Arcon; 05-13-2011 at 06:19 AM.
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  3. #193
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    I honestly don't see all the crying about the stupid atma, I can solo just fine without it, Actually, I don't even HAVE Ducal Guard and I am able to successfully kill on my Petjobs.
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    You've been trolled! You've been trolled you have probably been told, "don't reply to this guy, he is just getting a rise out of you," yes its true you respond and that's his cue to start trouble on the double while he strokes his manly stubble. You've been trolled you've been trolled you should probably just fold when the only winning move is not to play! And yet you keep on trying mindlessly replying, you've been trolled, you've been trolled, have a nice day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlobalVariable View Post
    Not the issue huh?
    Wait? When did it go from waiting for 60 to waiting for 90?
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  5. #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlobalVariable View Post
    No, you are backpeddling and claiming nobody "gets you".
    Sorry but if you can't get the point i just can't help, keep doing the clown you amuse me.
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  6. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Can people please stop riding on the fact that the OP mentioned mob holding and get back to the actual issue?
    Did you mean "did not mention?" Just checking to be sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlobalVariable View Post
    Not the issue huh?
    Wow you really can't get the point? where i say: At this point of invincibility why not just give a 1 shot kill.

    just wow dude... just wow...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilax View Post
    Sorry but if you can't get the point i just can't help, keep doing the clown you amuse me.
    Stop replying. You're discrediting the only legitimate discussion in your thread.

    Edit: @Kaji, no, the OP did mention it, and is bawww'ing about it. But the rest of us are trying to ignore his tears and have a real discussion on a legitimate game issue.
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  9. #199
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    Did you mean "did not mention?"
    No .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilax View Post
    Sorry but if you can't get the point i just can't help, keep doing the clown you amuse me.
    Poor misunderstood you. We're all "getting you wrong" again, and I amuse you.
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