100% PDT for PET is plain BS.

[Cyranda]

100% damage reduction makes absolutely no sense. That's a PLD's 2hr, which (duh) you can only use every two hours. For a 30 second duration. Having BST and PUP fulltime it is just silly. 80% I can understand, and in fact I believe that should be the cap (for players too). And yes, as was pointed out, Abyssea is a time-sensitive area, and even if it wasn't, watching a guy tickle a mob down for 90min and more when you wanted to do that is not just generally disappointing, but also against the spirit of Abyssea, which is to make content easily accessible to everyone. People complained about 3min respawn timer for ???s, but having to postpone a NM because someone is AFKing it to death for longer than you can even stay in the zone? It's like soloing Genbu in 5 hours. While it's possible, and kudos to you if you have that much patience, it obstructs content for everyone else. It's simply unfair.

It's hardly any more or less unfair than wanting to play your BST and being told that you're worthless for the content and/or to come on another job that you don't like to be "productive" for proccing. If your response to that is "you could level and play another job and suck it up," well then you could just level a BST and solo your own monster with the -100% PDT and take advantage of it. Taking one of the only bones thrown at the BST away would be VASTLY more unfair to them then having to wait is to you.

[Akujima]

well then you could just level a BST and solo your own monster with the -100% PDT and take advantage of it.

Actually I think there should be only one job (that is essentially all current jobs rolled into one). And that we should all be our own Tanks, Healers and Melee.

We should all have -100% PDT and -100% MDT, as well as infinite STR, DEX, VIT, etc.

There should also be only 1 massive zone, and we should be able to teleport to a pinpointed location at will. (take note SE, I really want this... I'm tired of having to use warp scrolls and home points) Why? Because walking is too slow and I'm too lazy to press the W button on my keyboard to go anywhere.

[Cyranda]

Actually I think there should be only one job (that is essentially all current jobs rolled into one). And that we should all be our own Tanks, Healers and Melee.

We should all have -100% PDT and -100% MDT, as well as infinite STR, DEX, VIT, etc.

There should also be only 1 massive zone, and we should be able to teleport to a pinpointed location at will. Why? Because walking is too slow and I'm too lazy to press the W button on my keyboard to go anywhere.

Oh, totally, because spending 60+ minutes to solo something with an almost 0 rate of return is the same thing as just killing everything. I mean, think of what you could do if you were totally invincible and did 1 point of damage to a monster with 200,000,000 hit points every 10 seconds. You should be the first to have that ability available to you.

There's a reason why not a lot of BSTs or other pet jobs run around soloing things (hint, it's really slow and nets you almost nothing), but those that do shouldn't have the ability removed unless they're compensated with some sort of *gasp* useful abilities that other people actually value!

[GlobalVariable]

SE have to fix that exploit, watching a BST 60 min long solo Hedjedjet is dumb, so is watching a PUP pet solo dargua for 60 min long as well.

Major mistake from SE allowing PET to have more then 50% PDT....

I could agree that 100% is to much, but you come off as crying that you had to wait because someone else had the NM. Terming it an exploit just because another job can do something you can't. It is an obviously allowed game mechanic and is a pain to max out requiring some really specialized gear. It isn't like every pet job is getting fat loot solo - need proc's. That is already a strong deterrent.

And my personal opinion? All of us should be able to hit 80% if take the time and effort to get the proper gear to go with those atmas that only work in abyssea anyway where you can just primeval brew anything anyway.


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And everyone is acting like each and every NM only does physical damage. News for you, you can't afk and you still will have to heal that pet. I could solo ahmuluk on bst. I wouldn't want to because I can't proc solo, but I could. Its still costing me some pet food and I have to pay attention. And if pdt builds got nerfed? I'd just be using more food and/or more than one jug. And taking just as long to kill it.

Pets don't have utsusemi. Pets can't pop a fanatics drink. Pets can't be cure bombed of na'd instead requiring the use of a long recast timer ability instead of spell. Pets are not frakkin unkillable even with -100% pdt though I am in favor of reducing it to -66~80%. as well as measures to prevent idiots from holding (which changing -pdt will not effect).

[Akujima]

There's a reason why not a lot of BSTs or other pet jobs run around soloing things (hint, it's really slow and nets you almost nothing), but those that do shouldn't have the ability removed unless they're compensated with some sort of *gasp* useful abilities that other people actually value!

Not my fault SE decided to make every job vague and non-descriptive when Abyssea came out.

Seems their answer though is to make every job a super-hero that can do everything themselves. No wonder so many people give so little value towards other jobs eh?

[Runespider]

There's a reason why not a lot of BSTs or other pet jobs run around soloing things (hint, it's really slow and nets you almost nothing), but those that do shouldn't have the ability removed.

So if I play a non-party job and have no friends I should be allowed to be invincible? There isn't even any skill to it, it's -100% pdt. Can go watch tv while the pet fights it.

[Zyeriis]

I'm going to direct my response to this page of the debate back to what I posted on the first page.

[Cyranda]

So if I play a non-party job and have no friends I should be allowed to be invincible? There isn't even any skill to it, it's -100% pdt. Can go watch tv while the pet fights it.

On the balance, absolutely. I'd certainly prefer that than them losing the damage reduction and being forced to do things on other jobs they may not have or don't like playing. If they want to waste 60 minutes killing something with a low drop rate due to having no procs and whatnot, more power to them. With the very small number of people who actually do it and the only bother being the minor inconvenience to other players having to wait if they happen to come across the few monsters they solo this way, which is nothing compared to the inconvenience of them having to take the same amount of time and getting even less in return, yeah. Absolutely.

The effect on the game is pretty much negligible, and given that people with brew can already essentially be invincible, the arguments against it are simply weak.

[Arcon]

It's hardly any more or less unfair than wanting to play your BST and being told that you're worthless for the content and/or to come on another job that you don't like to be "productive" for proccing. If your response to that is "you could level and play another job and suck it up," well then you could just level a BST and solo your own monster with the -100% PDT and take advantage of it. Taking one of the only bones thrown at the BST away would be VASTLY more unfair to them then having to wait is to you.

Having a pet hit 80% PDT (which is quite easy to attain), is still an incredibly good tank, better than most player characters could be. Even if a perfectly geared and fully def-buffed PLD were to eat a 1k base damage hit to the face, it would be hit for maybe 400 damage. A pet would take 200 (twice as good), with a PDT set that isn't any challenge to attain. Some may argue even that is broken, but I wouldn't mind it. All I'm saying is 100% PDT makes no sense whatsoever.

[Ilax]

Thanks for all reply guys, tbh i don't care if BST have -100% PDT, then SE should just give them 20,000,000 attack bonus while at it, so they can kill they stupid NM in 1 sec and not blocking the NM for 90 min...

For the part where you say BST are refused in LS bc they can't trigger, that just plain bullshit, my friend is often on BST, we use him to tank mob, but you know what? We trick attack him and his pet hold and we trigger and we kill fast, that how the job should be play to not piss off entire community, but yet there always some lame douch that are ready to play on they own and screw everyone on they way careless if it take 90 min.

Why you think ppl hate the job so much? 7yr ago it was a problem, and guess what? Same deal today, the job isnt a problem, is the way ppl play it....

Sorry world have plenty of douch, PDT -100% no thanks.