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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyranda View Post
    I'd much rather that person have fun, especially if she is my friend, and continue playing instead of burning out and quitting or forcing her to do something she doesn't like. Even if we decided to find a WHM to go too, I wouldn't kick that person, nor would I demand or be angry with her for making that decision. It's certainly not selfish of her. I mean, do you tell a person who donates money to charity every year that the one year he doesn't donate because he ran out of money that he's selfish? Hell no. That would be disrespectful to the time he'd already donated, or in this case, kicking the person would be disrespectful to the time she'd already spent AND the help she can still bring outside the role of WHM simply because she'd ran out of patience (or the idea that it was fun) to play WHM. Even if the person had always been a BST, despite being a "lesser job" as it was oh so recently put, they're still bringing something, even if it's just help killing the monster faster, taking care of adds, holding things when people die, etc.
    You pretty much keep sidestepping the point. I must look the same to you. Fact of the matter is, I think your attitude stinks. You probably think mine does too.

    But you know what? With my attitude, I get things done in FFXI. I come on whatever job I'm needed, or whatever job is best suited for the task at hand, and my versatility makes me a valuable asset to the people around me. I have friends, whom I've completed multiple Empyrean Weapons and Armor sets with, and whom I don't even raise objections around when they occasionally (key word) come Paladin or Blue mage instead of Ninja or Bard. I have a sack in an incredibly successful NA Endgame shell. I've killed everything in the entire game short of Pandy Warden and content that came out yesterday, and I had fun doing it.

    Meanwhile, with your attitude, you're steeped in bitterness and hatred towards Endgame linkshells and players. I don't know what your current situation is, but it's obvious you hate anyone who "forces" you to come on anything but Beastmaster. By limiting your usefulness to a group, you lower your appeal to linkshells who can actually complete content. I can't assume too much, but it's fairly obvious you're not happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyranda View Post
    I don't know that anyone is arguing about absolutely essential roles here, otherwise they'd be talking about any DD or tank and not just pet jobs. My focus, for certain, is more on the propensity of people to resist taking BST and other jobs when they can be helpful and can still function, even if it's a reduced rate (the all or nothing approach, or the insulting "we'll take you as a second rate" character sort of thing). I suppose it shouldn't surprise me too much that someone might have taken it to an extreme and assumed I meant that you should have a party entirely of rangers trying to fight something immune to ranged attack, but these are internet forums, so there is that.
    Considering I have no natural bias against Beastmaster, Yes, I did implicitly apply all of my arguments to any DD, Tank, or Mage job in the game. I don't care if it's BST, SMN, PUP, PLD, or freaking MNK. If someone refuses to come on something vital because they want to play la dee freaking da Anonymous Job A, they have a horrible attitude.
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    Last edited by Greatguardian; 05-12-2011 at 11:07 AM.