Avesta Bangles

[rog]

but they're not that great. Maybe if they were around when the cap was still 75...

You may want to take another look at the stats.

[Sama]

Successfully solo'ed a few game monsters does not make you a hero...

Come on seriously???? To honor 1 individual? What he/she done for the game or the players?

[rog]

Come on seriously???? To honor 1 individual? What he/she done for the game or the players?

More than you think, less than others think.

[noodles355]

I'm with rog on this one. A lot of what he did was great and pretty ground breaking, but if you actually gave some of it a go at 75 it wasn't as impossible as a lot of people thought.

Not that I don't respect him, I do. He's sort of like Final Fantasy 7. It was a good game no doubt, but people need to stop thinking it's the best in the world.

[Runespider]

but if you actually gave some of it a go at 75 it wasn't as impossible as a lot of people thought.

The point was, nobody knew or even attempted it before he showed everyone it was possible. He pretty much single handedly created the solo RDM fad.

[Ravenmore]

RDMs were soloing things before and at the same time he was just he posted vids of it. Whats more impressive is the mnk that soloed genbu. Not that genbu was hard but for a mnk to do it was pretty cool slow as hell though lol.

[Greatguardian]

The point was, nobody knew or even attempted it before he showed everyone it was possible. He pretty much single handedly created the solo RDM fad.

Avesta had youtube fame, and "JP fame" among the NA playerbase. That doesn't mean other people weren't doing the same stuff at the same time, nor that he "created" anything. I suppose it's possible he made a bunch of NA players think they could solo if they leveled RDM, but it's not like he influenced the real soloists much at all. If anything, most, like Rog, became a bit embittered because people tended to sing Avesta's praises despite the fact that they could do all of the same things, and were often told that they were "just copying Avesta".

Fact of the matter is, Avesta is just one of many good Red Mages. Plenty of other people have done everything he's done, at the same time or before, he's just the one who got e-famous for it. That said, the bangles are almost certainly named after something else entirely.

[MarkovChain]

Avesta is the best soloer ever and all he people claiming he isn't that great are doing the same thing than him but it only took them 7 years to do so... You soloed despot so what ? He did all Gods and the final Zilart mission. He soloed the Halvung bomb NM when most people still didn't know their way inside halvung.

[Sama]

Avesta is the best soloer ever and all he people claiming he isn't that great are doing the same thing than him but it only took them 7 years to do so... You soloed despot so what ? He did all Gods and the final Zilart mission. He soloed the Halvung bomb NM when most people still didn't know their way inside halvung.

Avesta is great and I believe most other players are the same.

The time Avesta solo'ed those mobs, the rage system wasn't even introduced. I bet there were 394852948 RDM/NIN solo'ed lots NM back then and they just don't care to make a video.

Soon SE realized the 'glitch' they added the rage system and boom Avesta the video poster became the legend. Does that sound fair to the other great rdms lol?

I'm not a solo kind of person and I am not here to argue who's better and what item should be name after certain individual; SE wants to do it they will and already did nothing can be undone. It just doesn't sound fair for the other great players if SE's intended is to 'award' or even 'honor' someone.

[rog]

Avesta had youtube fame, and "JP fame" among the NA playerbase. That doesn't mean other people weren't doing the same stuff at the same time, nor that he "created" anything. I suppose it's possible he made a bunch of NA players think they could solo if they leveled RDM, but it's not like he influenced the real soloists much at all. If anything, most, like Rog, became a bit embittered because people tended to sing Avesta's praises despite the fact that they could do all of the same things, and were often told that they were "just copying Avesta".

It is especially funny because avesta just copied strategies that were used since the time the first rdm reached level 9. Avesta was not the first, nor the best. He was simply the first to record all of his solos, and gain recognition.

I came up with exactly the same strategies avesta used on my own at level 50, back in 2004, without ever seeing a single rdm/nin before that, let alone any real soloing done. The difference between me and avesta at the time was that he was level 75 with all the best gear, and i was a casual at level 50, who ended up putting rdm off for 3 years. We were using exactly the same strategies to do exactly the same things, just on different mobs.