Avesta Bangles

[rog]

He's still better than scrubs that use cheat tools to enhance their movement speed, teleport around and look though walls and then brag about how good they are at soloing. I'd love to see how those "awesome" soloers would do without their cheating. If you cheat you aren't good, you're just a cheater.

It is possible to be both a cheater, and good. Just sayin'. Especially if they do not use those kinds of cheats while soloing.

[Volkai]

He's still better than scrubs that use cheat tools to enhance their movement speed, teleport around and look though walls and then brag about how good they are at soloing. I'd love to see how those "awesome" soloers would do without their cheating. If you cheat you aren't good, you're just a cheater.

Hear hear!

It is possible to be both a cheater, and good. Just sayin'. Especially if they do not use those kinds of cheats while soloing.

If you cheat, how good you might have been before you cheated stops mattering. There's a reason olympic athletes that are caught taking performance-enhancing drugs get their medals stripped and are barred from competing. There's a reason it doesn't matter WHEN they actually took those performance-enhancing drugs. You understand that, right?

[rog]

Everything is easy once someone else has done it and shown others it's possible, even the devs see that and have made an item to honour him. Won't ever see any items named after you.

It's easy to copy or improve on something, being the first is where the status is. e.g. first shell to beat AV legit > shell that killed it quicker/better.

Sorry but the only significant difference between almost all nms is the name. Applying a strategy that has been used since day one on a new mob does not count for anything.

[Vold]

I doubt SE named a piece of gear after Avesta. You should google Avesta sometime. It's much more likely it involves real world stuffs. Also consider what the chances are that SE even knows or cares who Avesta is.

[Mnakal]

Also consider what the chances are that SE even knows or cares who Avesta is.

While you have a point about the religious ties of the name, if you think about the history behind the Taisaijin NM and why it drops Refresh, it's hard to believe that SE doesn't know about him. Given their history of tying in other "real world stuffs" they likely gave him a nod by tailoring the item towards the two jobs he's best known for.

As for the rest of the conversation, next item to come out will be named for Kanican...

[Volkai]

Also consider what the chances are that SE even knows or cares who Avesta is.

Pretty high, actually. The community team, which listens to most FFXI-related podcasts (and has been guests on them in the past as well) is quite likely to be paying attention to FFXI-related YouTube videos that have high view counts.

Like Avesta's soloing videos.

This is also the community team which reads the bluegartr forums that are not, as far as I can tell, officially recognized by SE, so I'm sure they've read the threads in various forums that ARE officially recognized regarding Avesta's soloing.



Of course, the only people that know for certain if this item was named after Avesta or not are the dev and localization teams... I'd like it if we could get some official word on if these are named after Avesta or if it's a coincidence.

[Runespider]

Sorry but the only significant difference between almost all nms is the name. Applying a strategy that has been used since day one on a new mob does not count for anything.

Having an awesome piece of gear every good rdm would want to try to own named after him says different. In a game steeped in status, this is the ultimate.

[rog]

Having an awesome piece of gear every good rdm would want to try to own named after him says different. In a game steeped in status, this is the ultimate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avesta ?

Also, being well recognized, and thought to be amazing does not actually make him amazing.

[JTF]

Data mining has just revealed another item


Rog Bangles Rare Exclusive
Hands
Bitterness +6
Envy +15
Jealousy +15
Inferiority Complex +15
Lv88 MNK WHM BLM RDM THF DRK BRD RNG SMN BLU COR PUP DNC SCH


Keep on keeping on Rog...

;-)

[rog]

Data mining has just revealed another item


Rog Bangles Rare Exclusive
Hands
Bitterness +6
Envy +15
Jealousy +15
Inferiority Complex +15
Lv88 MNK WHM BLM RDM THF DRK BRD RNG SMN BLU COR PUP DNC SCH


Keep on keeping on Rog...

;-)

Should have been rdm, blm, brd, rng, nin, war, drk, rng, smn, cor to go with the jobs i have leveled.