Were Emps supposed to be this easy?

[Alukat]

oh we start with rl, ok here another example, u worked on the relationship with your gf and after 2 year she tells you that u are "old content" and she needs to get a new one lol

[Sama]

Emp Wpn is easy to get but hard to camp because everyone is doing it so you have to fight the other 5928572938 people for Sobek especially in weekend.

[wish12oz]

Relics are by far the easiest to get,

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Even if you bought all 175 items for your empyrean, you would still have to be there while people farmed pops and killed the NMs, all 88 to 175 of them. And personally, I wouldn't sell empyrean items for less then 500k/each, thats 87.5m for a lvl 90, and you have at least 2 more gather trials to get it to 99, that will end up costing more then some relics.

If anything, mythics should blow the doors off everything else, empyreans should be second and relics last if you want their strength to be affected by difficulty to obtain/time put in.

[Olor]

oh we start with rl, ok here another example, u worked on the relationship with your gf and after 2 year she tells you that u are "old content" and she needs to get a new one lol

If that happens...urdoinitwrong

A relationship is nothing like a physical product (or game data). A good relationship gets better with time. A good computer gets worse with time. A good game gets dated over time. A good weapon in a fantasy game becomes replaced by a better one over time.

If you're comparing a weapon made of pixels to a relationship, well, maybe you should have spent less time on your relic and more on real life.

[Akujima]

If anything, mythics should blow the doors off everything else, empyreans should be second and relics last if you want their strength to be affected by difficulty to obtain/time put in.

Empyrean should be 3rd and you know it. You can solo Briareus and Sobek, and alot of other Empyrean NM's or wait around while people kill them and don't really want/need the item and just give it away for free.

The only reason you say otherwise, is because you don't want to put in the time or effort to achieve something actually worthwhile. And if you're response is to cheat, steal and/or BOT to get a relic/mythic, then that just shows where your head is at. Not everyone has such dishonest thoughts.

That being said. Relics in the first place were extremely overdone in order to obtain, and should have been toned down quite a bit.

[wish12oz]

or u simply use a bot to get a lot of gil to buy all emp items........

Even if you bought all 175 items for your empyrean, you would still have to be there while people farmed pops and killed the NMs, all 88 to 175 of them. And personally, I wouldn't sell empyrean items for less then 500k/each, thats 87.5m for a lvl 90, and you have at least 2 more gather trials to get it to 99, that will end up costing more then some relics.

Ya, you could do that, I went over it, but its still more of a time sink then buying a relic cause you have to be there while they kill stuff to lot the items if nothing else. Which will take longer then getting a relic.

The only reason you say otherwise, is because you don't want to put in the time or effort to achieve something actually worthwhile.

You're talking to the wrong person if you think I don't have enough gil to get a relic. In fact, I'm debating buying a g horn FOR MY MULE. lol, thats way better then a relic for your main. And I also said this earlier, why do I have to repeat myself so much?

And if you're response is to cheat, steal and/or BOT to get a relic/mythic, then that just shows where your head is at. Not everyone has such dishonest thoughts.

I said that because, as I also said,
That is how pretty much every relic on both the servers I was on were obtained.


EDIT::
I just realized all I did with this post was say some stuff I already said, you all need to learn reading comprehension, or just how to read.

[Alukat]

not everyone in the game are rmting,botting....
there are still legit players out there, i am one of them.
but screw us because some lazy ppl use bots or rmt services?

[wish12oz]

not everyone in the game are rmting,botting....
there are still legit players out there, i am one of them.
but screw us because some lazy ppl use bots or rmt services?

Well, as one of those people you should be happy there's a new set of weapons that are pretty good for the most part, that require friends and effort to obtain. And then you should go work on them and let go of the old broken relic system.

[Alukat]

Well, as one of those people you should be happy there's a new set of weapons that are pretty good for the most part, that require friends and effort to obtain. And then you should go work on them and let go of the old broken relic system.

well if my major targets wouldn't be af3+2's for my job and ebisu rod then probably would go for them

[JiltedValkyrie]

I'm on my second Empyrean if I just decided to camp Fistule for two days straight. Already have half my Bukhis Wings. All it comes down to is how determined you really are. Most people don't finish their Empyreans for months. No, I didn't have mass pops for my Empyrean. Wasn't in that kind of situation. I just wanted it bad.