Allow Weaponskills from off-hand weapons with 50%- damage

[hordecore]

allow us to use ws from our off-hand weapons with reduced damage

[Arcon]

I don't actually think this is a bad idea. Could see some uses in that, offhand sword for Flat Blade or something similar, could also used for WS points. Of course people would use it for Abyssea procs, but I don't see how it is better or worse than what we already have.

[Zyeriis]

I don't actually think this is a bad idea. Could see some uses in that, offhand sword for Flat Blade or something similar, could also used for WS points. Of course people would use it for Abyssea procs, but I don't see how it is better or worse than what we already have.

You lost me when you posted in a hordecore thread. If you're going for abyssea procs just equip it to main hand?

[Tamoa]

I completely fail to see the point in being able to ws with offhand weapon for reduced damage.

Inb4 "to deal less damage while trying to proc blue so you don't kill the nm before proc".

[Xilk]

I completely fail to see the point in being able to ws with offhand weapon for reduced damage.

Inb4 "to deal less damage while trying to proc blue so you don't kill the nm before proc".

bst/dnc offhand twilight knife, then I can use Aeolian Edge for Amberlight/multikill w/out sacrificing Rampage.
OR, you can proc on multiple weapons w/out switching and losing tp.

you build tp on weapon and someone else gets a hint about what ws type it is. You can have that for your off-hand.
Its gives one more dynamic control. I think its a neat little idea.

blue mage, sword and club would be another handy time to have either ws type.

[Tamoa]

Ok so, elemental weaponskills used for red procs normally don't deal a hell of a lot of damage. Have one or maybe two DDs with discernment using an elemental ws until one of them gets hint. Hint will narrow it down to only a few weaponskills, sometimes to one specific (Freezebite, Earth Crusher, Red Lotus Blade, Raiden Thrust).

To proc blue, we all know that depends on time of day. So if it's slashing, there would be no reason for a blue mage to offhand club for ws (not that I have any idea which club weaponskills a blue mage has access to). If it's blunt, there would be no reason to offhand dagger/sword/katana for ws. And so on and so forth.

Bst/dnc offhanding Twilight Knife for Aeolian Edge would still be sacrificing Rampage as I would assume offhand ws would still require 100%tp and would use that tp? Then you might as well mainhand it and get full damage, instead of reduced damage as suggested by the OP?

[Alukat]

god no, pls dont make thing easier as they are already

[Arcon]

You lost me when you posted in a hordecore thread. If you're going for abyssea procs just equip it to main hand?

Despite the fact that he's an obvious troll he posted more useful ideas than some other members on here. Also, now you posted too.

Getting TP with offhand often sucks due to low skill rating, and quite possibly being underskilled even for the already low cap. Club is a nice example. So dual wielding a dagger and club would help TP gain a lot, making it easier to proc.

And changing weapons is just tedious if you need different kinds of WS all the time, especially if you only decide to AoE mid fight, and you do it frequently. Sometimes it's just nice to be prepared for either situation. What about Skillchain properties, trying to open a level 3 skillchain with one hand, close it with the other. Every bit of TP counts, you can't just switch weapons to make it work.

Not saying it's a grave issue or anything, just saying I could see uses for it. In fact, I don't see why it shouldn't be possible at all, offhand has no other penalties, so apparently FFXI characters aren't just right-handed. So why not allow it, even at full strength?

Inb4 "to deal less damage while trying to proc blue so you don't kill the nm before proc".

People think putting "Inb4" in front of an argument makes it less valid. I remember a few cases just off the top of my head where this would have been useful. Just last week we held Empousa at 1% for our DRK, 2 WSs, we chose the wrong one, mob dead. It happens, not even that rarely.

[Tamoa]

Just last week we held Empousa at 1% for our DRK, 2 WSs, we chose the wrong one, mob dead. It happens, not even that rarely.

In this case I'm assuming you were going for blue and it was either GS or scythe, and those are 2h weapons last I checked. And if you haven't triggered blue by 1% then it's rather pointless to try in my opinion, since 1 blue ws is likely to 1shot the mob.

[Tamoa]

And once again, Hordecore has made a thread demanding SE to change something that is not to his liking, not explaining why he thinks his idea is a good one and what purpose it would serve.