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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuneo View Post
    I don't see why we shouldn't be entitled to it.
    Thats exactly like saying "i speak english so im entitled to an A+ on my english exam!" Suck less and just accept we get a statue of one of the greatest elvaans EVER!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuneo View Post
    Yet another post that says the same thing that was said 100 times already.
    and yet people are so thick as to not understand the simplicity of it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivik View Post
    and yet people are so thick as to not understand the simplicity of it...
    The simple answer is SE just wants to get sales on a collection no one would buy otherwise. I'm not demanding the hat, and I don't even want it. I just think the tactics in use for people who do want one and already own all the content are pretty lousy.
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    Maybe those who use the world "Entitled" Simply take it too far. But i feel it would be fair if we happened to get them. I wonder if people saying "We get prishe statue" Realize people who buy the Vana Collection also receive this item?

    I don't think theres a sense of Entitlement behind my responses, But i do feel the Fair thing would have been to give the players who bought all 3 Expansions when they came out this item as well. it would have been "Hey new people, Join today for 20$, Get this awesome item too!" and "Hey Loyal Customers, You can have it too, Thanks for sticking with us and buying all the expansions for about 6x the cost of this Collection over the years!"

    In my view, Is more of a courtesy than an Entitlement. We definitely aren't entitled to anything, SE has taught us that well over the years, But to limit the item to new players, or players who spend (lets admit it) 20$ for an in-game hat seems a little under-handed.

    Its their right, I have no qualms otherwise, My feelings is that it seems kinda dirty to their Loyal Customers. you guys can sheep behind "HUR HUR ENTITLE NUTHIN", thats your peragative, But its absolutely stupid to insist those people who feel they should get the item too for purchasing all the expansions, and not be forced to toss over 20$ Additionally for said item are "Thick headed".
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  5. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuneo View Post
    The simple answer is SE just wants to get sales on a collection no one would buy otherwise. I'm not demanding the hat, and I don't even want it. I just think the tactics in use for people who do want one and already own all the content are pretty lousy.
    Actually, the simple answer is SE is releasing a new collection that comes with a free gift. IF you don't need it, don't buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivik View Post
    Actually, the simple answer is SE is releasing a new collection that comes with a free gift. IF you don't need it, don't buy it.
    The bottom line is I will buy the collection to get the item. I knew that from my first post. That amount of money is nothing to me as I am sure it is nothing to a lot of the people posting. What's funny is that the only systems I need the collection on are either the PS2 or the 360. Since, I've lost a disk/code on each system and S/E screwed up my systems with the download issue. Really, the only thing that gets affected by this is my view of S/E.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivik View Post
    Actually, the simple answer is SE is releasing a new collection that comes with a free gift. IF you don't need it, don't buy it.
    And you still miss the point behind this. The point people are trying to make is that ingame items shouldn't have to come with such a price tag (or any price tag at all for that matter), because that's all this is. This is clearly targeted at old players who feel they want that item, regardless of how good or bad it is. The fact that SE markets this as a bonus to new players (which is unfair to begin with) is disrespectful to the playerbase, because everyone knows what this is really about. All SE is doing here is real money trade. And that was one of the most attractive features of FFXI when I started.

    As I previously posted:
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    There's two possible ways to look at this:
    Either SE really believe it's something their most loyal players shouldn't have (the players who bought everything when it first came out) and they're being unfair, or they know those people will want it regardless and will spend extra money on it, making this a scam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    And you still miss the point behind this. The point people are trying to make is that ingame items shouldn't have to come with such a price tag (or any price tag at all for that matter), because that's all this is. This is clearly targeted at old players who feel they want that item, regardless of how good or bad it is. The fact that SE markets this as a bonus to new players (which is unfair to begin with) is disrespectful to the playerbase, because everyone knows what this is really about. All SE is doing here is real money trade. And that was one of the most attractive features of FFXI when I started.

    As I previously posted:
    Oh I get exactly what SE is doing. They released a new collection with a BONUS gift. You're not paying for the gift, you're paying for the collection of expansions. Read into what they are doing however you want. Whine and carry on about it if you want. Either way, the fact remains, it's a bonus. I think the sense of self-entitlement in this thread is way more appalling than anything SE could ever do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivik View Post
    Oh I get exactly what SE is doing. They released a new collection with a BONUS gift. You're not paying for the gift, you're paying for the collection of expansions. Read into what they are doing however you want. Whine and carry on about it if you want. Either way, the fact remains, it's a bonus. I think the sense of self-entitlement in this thread is way more appalling than anything SE could ever do.
    Majority will buy it just for the gift because we already bought the "collection" through the past years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuneo View Post
    Majority will buy it just for the gift because we already bought the "collection" through the past years.
    Oh I'm sure they will. Hell, I'm gonna buy it (granted I need the abyssea xpacks for a mule). If I did not need the xpacks, I would not purchase it though. I mean really, who has jobs under 30 they plan to level anymore anyway?
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