[Dev 1009] Force Pop HNM's FTW

[wish12oz]

Except that you were quoting my statement about wiki droprates being correct stop trying to change subject ? If this was even true you sould have noticed that wiki doesn't show 3% droprate, no ?

Hey Pchan, Im still waiting for my answer to this:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ll=1#post64917

[Harukusan]

I'm shocked to see that so many people still give a damn about ground kings. If you haven't already gotten all the outdated garbage they drop before they started raising the cap, you probably weren't meant to have it. This is just another way to give noobs what they want the easy way. Hell, Adamantoise and Behemoth were soloable at 75, at this heightened level, I wouldn't be surprised if Faf is too. My point is, stop complaining and go camp it if you want it that bad. No need to spend money for black belt. I had black belt well before my MNK could even use it. You can do it too if you just put the effort in. I'm going to admit I'll be dumping my seals to make a pretty penny off needy suckers, and maybe get a D.ring in the process. Thanks for an extension to an already easy way to make gil SE!

[Korpg]

I think that most people are complaining about that since MNK is the new bandwagon job, the long-time MNKs who have had a black belt for a while no longer have that "elitist" feeling they had for so many years now that everyone can get a black belt now.

[Cream_Soda]

I think that most people are complaining about that since MNK is the new bandwagon job, the long-time MNKs who have had a black belt for a while no longer have that "elitist" feeling they had for so many years now that everyone can get a black belt now.

I've had a black belt for ages, and with certainty, I can say this is no where even close to the case for me.

[Korpg]

I've had a black belt for ages, and with certainty, I can say this is no where even close to the case for me.

You are also a career MNK. You were playing MNK before it became popular and useful.

I'm not saying that every MNK feels the same, I'm just stating that all the negativity shown from this has been towards how easy the getting Black Belt is going to be now.

Black Belt will no longer be a status symbol for hardcore MNKs. Like Masamune is for SAM.

[Harukusan]

Can't say I've ever felt elitist with a black belt. My MNK is pretty crappy. Not 90 yet, at least not wearing any aurore or other trash gear like that. There's a difference between being elitist and being experienced or educated.

[Korpg]

Can't say I've ever felt elitist with a black belt. My MNK is pretty crappy. Not 90 yet, at least not wearing any aurore or other trash gear like that. There's a difference between being elitist and being experienced or educated.

Most people wouldn't know if they are acting like an elitist or not. Then again, some people don't know what elitism is, but thats besides the point.

The point is, those who are complaining about making black belt easier are mainly those who had to wait in line, or buy their drops, or had to endure months of competition, just to get their black belt, and see this new system as belittling their efforts where any john doe MNK can get the same belt that they spent so long getting quicker.

But you are right, somewhat. There is a big difference between experienced/educated and gear. Not so much difference between elitism and experienced (since you have to be experienced or educated to become an elite). I could Abyssea burn my MNK to 90 right now, and become geared up as most any other MNK, but since I don't have the experience to back it up, I would not be in the same level as they are.

[Cream_Soda]

You are also a career MNK. You were playing MNK before it became popular and useful.

Mnk has been useful for as long as I've been playing it, so I disagree

[Harukusan]

But you are right, somewhat. There is a big difference between experienced/educated and gear. Not so much difference between elitism and experienced (since you have to be experienced or educated to become an elite). I could Abyssea burn my MNK to 90 right now, and become geared up as most any other MNK, but since I don't have the experience to back it up, I would not be in the same level as they are.

I missworded that slightly. Of course you need to be experienced to become elite, but judging by peoples' opinions about "elitists" there is a large gap in attitude and the feeling of being superior to others. Having the gear and experience and education of game mechanics is something that is available to everyone, but those who are ignorant would only bother to criticize those whose intentions are in the right place, possibly because of a slight intimidation factor? maybe? It's quite ironic and hypocritical to judge someone and call them an elitist. You're calling them on the same charge you yourself are guilty of. Of course, I've been criticized before I've even met some people. Go figure. The feeling is mutual.

Back on topic!

This force-pop king thing is terribad! There are many other issues with the game that need to be prioritized before you pick out something that wasn't broken to begin with. Like, can we just make Assault, Salvage, and Einherjar open for solo players? Thanks.

Oh and I want to say this again, I oughta say this in every post:

Stop the server merge! You're only making things worse!! I don't want to be a part of any server other than my own~ especially since it's not been so congested as it used to be. Not that it isn't congested still, but it's not as bad.

[Henihhi]

I'm shocked to see that so many people still give a damn about ground kings. If you haven't already gotten all the outdated garbage they drop before they started raising the cap, you probably weren't meant to have it. This is just another way to give noobs what they want the easy way. Hell, Adamantoise and Behemoth were soloable at 75, at this heightened level, I wouldn't be surprised if Faf is too. My point is, stop complaining and go camp it if you want it that bad. No need to spend money for black belt. I had black belt well before my MNK could even use it. You can do it too if you just put the effort in. I'm going to admit I'll be dumping my seals to make a pretty penny off needy suckers, and maybe get a D.ring in the process. Thanks for an extension to an already easy way to make gil SE!

Haukusan will you have little mithran/taru half breed babies with me?