[Dev 1009] Force Pop HNM's FTW

[Rambus]

If the 10 people who stood around a king pop spot for 3 hours instead went and farmed KS for 3 hours, chances are they would get *at least* 99 KS (not all on the same person, but over time it works out the same).

Also, NPC level cap will be going up, so for anyone who bothers to do that, they will be leveling their NPC and get more KS that way. Maybe not 99 per player, but people who have 250 now will go over 300, etc.

who said I had to sit those 3 hours stright?

sorry time spent in old way would be a lot less then this craptatic update.

[SNK]

who said I had to sit those 3 hours stright?

sorry time spent in old way would be a lot less then this craptatic update.

And yet you spent 5 years in Dynamis getting a Yoichi. Tell me how this logic works out where you had to do 2 to 3.5 hours of Dynamis twice a week for 5 years to finish a relic vs camping a NM once a day for 3 hours a day works out again?

Don't sit there and cry about how bad this update is and that the old one is better when you've commented on Magian Trials being hard for you to do because you have a bad back?

Get your stories straight man please.

[Rambus]

so far everyone I talked to in game thinks this update is stupid, supporters of this update is a minority

no idea how you can be so blind to say otherwise.

you can stand there and say i am crying all you want, I am not a sheep I do not accpet something because someone goes "here". it is a bad update.

[Karbuncle]

so far everyone I talked to in game thinks this update is stupid, supporters of this update is a minority

no idea how you can be so blind to say otherwise.

you can stand there and say i am crying all you want, I am not a sheep I do not accpet something because someone goes "here". it is a bad update.

Can't really say i agree with you. You

shouldn't think "But this doesn't help me, so it sucks" and instead "Well, before only 1 mob popped per day, It left a lot of people out, Especially if the window fell into Early AM and people needed to sleep, Now everyone has a chance to kill it regardless of time of day, and TODeath, so long as they have seals to do so, Or can join a friend for it"

It may not help each and every person, But i think its going to benefit more people in the end than the old system. While the update could have gone without the Nerfing of BB Drop rate form NQ/HQ... I don't know what more to add. I'm getting kinda bored trying to explain this to you. You simply do not and cannot understand.

This Update is an Improvement, It won't be to every single 1 person, But it will be to the majority. In the old System, You had to take things like ToD into account (Say its due to pop @ 1AM, Most people have jobs and need to sleep, They're Screwed), That only 1 Group per 24 hours has a chance, (Meaning, Everyone who didn't claim now not only doesn't fight the NM, but has 0 chance at drop). Botting is null at this point since the major botters left HNMs a long time ago.

With this update, Each person has a fair chance to pop the NM. They don't have to wait for ToD, they can wake up and get an Orb, or wake up and Farm some Kindred seals while LFG, cause i guarantee half of them spend 90% of the time sitting in port Jeuno looking at shouts or browsing the internet waiting for something to fall in their lap. Basically they have the freedom to now chose when they want to kill it, and not have to worry about competitor campers (to an EXTENT), or losing claim and being screwed for the next 24 hours, etc!

Even though it won't benefit every single person, It will benefit more people than the old system. Which is an Improvement. Of course its not going to be an improvement to every player if they don't want it too/have no Kindred Seals, But for the most part more people will Benefit. Maybe not much more, but more.

[Tannlore]

It may not help each and every person, But i think its going to benefit more people in the end than the old system. While the update could have gone without the Nerfing of BB Drop rate form NQ/HQ... I don't know what more to add. I'm getting kinda bored trying to explain this to you. You simply do not and cannot understand.

This Update is an Improvement, It won't be to every single 1 person, But it will be to the majority. In the old System, You had to take things like ToD into account (Say its due to pop @ 1AM, Most people have jobs and need to sleep, They're Screwed), That only 1 Group per 24 hours has a chance, (Meaning, Everyone who didn't claim now not only doesn't fight the NM, but has 0 chance at drop). Botting is null at this point since the major botters left HNMs a long time ago.

This, exactly this. This new system will give more people more shots at chances to get the items. The drop rates were lowered because you can spawn the nms petty much when ever you pleased. This is definitely an improvement over the old system. Not perfect, but an improvement. I think people are just mad because it doesn't fit their idea of what might be perfect in their eyes. But at least it is something.

As for the drop rate, yes it has been reduced. However, by how much? I see a lot of QQ but can anyone provide any concrete numbers yet? An exact amount if you please? Can you? No, you can't because it hasn't come out yet. You may be getting upset over a lot of nothing. It might not be reduced so drastically you practically never see the items drop you know. Might be 40%, hell 30% even. That's tons better than a lot of items out there I can easily think of. Even some in abyssea that drop with blue !! triggered.

Reserve the complaints on drop rates until you actually experience the drop rate. You have no clue what the reduction is until you experience. Why get aggravated over an unknown quantity? In the end, there's a lot of people out there who will have a shot at an nm the either would have never gotten a chance at, or would have had to merc/pay to get items for. I'm glad they changed this.