[Dev 1009] Force Pop HNM's FTW

[Elexia]

It's an MMO, duh? This will still be better than the previous system, far far more people will get to fight them than ever before.

It is indeed an MMO, however the majority of MMOs I've played and currently play aren't built around such a two sided update regimen.

It's mostly the fact that they tend throw you into content that get rarely utilized in order to do what you wanted. There's nothing wrong with having to do prerequisites...but it's the type of prereqs that tend to be laid before you. It is better than open world claim, but it's still going to be the same general few spamming it unless the item vanishes after use.

[Pawkeshup]

Seriously, this is a ridiculous method, and removing the drops from the NQ as well as nerfing the drop rate on the HQs is just plain stupid. 99 KS for a CHANGE at MAYBE getting it... either make it 100% off of HQs and 50% off of NQs or leave it as is.

[Eeek]

Hey, y'all wanted the chance to fight these HNMs without fighting bots or camping at odd hours of the day or night, and now you have it.

And yet people bitch anyways. So predictable.

I guarantee that most of you have a few friends who built up a ton of Kindred Seals while upgrading several Magian weapons. I'm one of them. I'm sitting on about 900 KS. Gather together a few friends with 2-3 orbs, and a single party can probably work their way from KS99s to killing a few HQ kings in an evening. In this scenario, a MNK would have 4-6 chances for a BB item to drop. Within a few hours. Forgive me while I play my tiny violin.

God forbid SE makes KS99s worthwhile again. God forbid SE makes HNM fights accessible to anyone with friends and a halfway-functional brain. God forbid SE updates non-Abyssea content to make it accessible and worthwhile. Isn't this the kind of content you people on the anti-Abyssea bandwagon have been crying and begging for?

What the fuck is wrong with you all?

Any MNK with half a brain will have no problem getting their BB. And guess what? Their friends will get to fight HNMs and pick up a few toys along the way.

Go ahead. Sit here and complain all you want. This will end up just like Abyssea. The people who grab their friends, head out, and try to accomplish something will generally have a good time while the rest of you will sit in Port Jeuno and cry endlessly about the terrible new content despite the fact that you've barely scraped the surface of said content and accomplished fuck all.

(Sorry for the profanity, but how clueless can people be? These forums are endlessly frustrating.)

[MarkovChain]

I really dont buy the "give people a reason to exp outside of abyssea" rally I saw going on.

It's because greatguardian is trolling the thread like every other. Every one but him agrees that this ajustement makes getting a black belt much harder that what it is now.

Better ajustement would be :
30 Kindred's seals per bcnm
add a chance for fafnir to drop his own pop
allow multiple pops to drop from the KS 99 (you enter with 18 so make it 18 drops ? lol)

[Eeek]

It's because greatguardian is trolling the thread like every other. Every one but him agrees that this ajustement makes getting a black belt much harder that what it is now.

Nah, only dumb people without friends or gil think this will make a Black Belt harder to get.

[MarkovChain]

I don't see what gil or friend have to do with this. Those KSNM are most likely easy duo at 90 for one, and for two you don't need gill to enter them do you ? If you expect to get people to give you their kindred's seal and waste their time travelling to to do the KSNMs, instead of doing abyssea, you are wrong. Money has no value right now.

[Eeek]

I don't see what gil or friend have to do with this.

Of course you wouldn't.

[MarkovChain]

You run too quickly out of argument, simple math consideration tell you how retarded it is.

[Korpg]

This is a great update for people who don't have the time for old-style HNM shells to have to bot for anymore.

Yeah, it sucks that the BB item would no longer be from NQ mobs, but the NMs are not that hard anymore. 6 people could kill them back at 75, 6 people who aren't as good can kill them at 90+ now.

Maybe this is SEs sign that BLUs will be learning HNM moves soon?

[Eeek]

You run too quickly out of argument, simple math consideration tell you how retarded it is.

Really? You can't see how easy it is to have two chances (KS99 and HQ HNM) at a BB item whenever you want? Assuming MNKs bring friends (well, not you. people who actually have friends) with their own KS99 orbs who'd like some shiny drop off an HNM, BB items will have even more opportunities to drop.

Yet, this adjustment is somehow worse than camping a 21-24 hour HNM for one chance for a BB item to drop.