[Dev 1009] Force Pop HNM's FTW

[Cream_Soda]

Wtf @ this update. Did I just lv to 90 my mnk for nothing -.-. This update is going to drive the price up at camps because now the ls' have to use their KS to pop these nms.

FML. I just wanted to get my black belt and finish capping my h2h so I could be a good tank for my group.

Really, if they're going to go through w/ this, SE better give me my 3 days back that I spent on mnk. I could have been studying or something.

[Gotterdammerung]

Wtf @ this update. Did I just lv to 90 my mnk for nothing -.-. This update is going to drive the price up at camps because now the ls' have to use their KS to pop these nms.

FML. I just wanted to get my black belt and finish capping my h2h so I could be a good tank for my group.

Really, if they're going to go through w/ this, SE better give me my 3 days back that I spent on mnk. I could have been studying or something.

Sarcasm is really hard to pull off in text form. Well done sir.

[Henihhi]

And a lot of people have totally missed the fact that now you can kill the nm any time you want, instead of having to camp it at ungodly hours and praying for claim. Think the OP mentioned this also. So its win- win for all those people who have posted tons of complaints about hnm camping.

[RAIST]

Fafnir : Wyrm Beard removed
Nidhogg : Drop rate of Wyrm Beard decreased
Behemoth : Behemoth Tongue removed
King Behemoth : Drop rate of Behemoth Tongue decreased
Adamantoise : Adamantoise Egg removed
Aspidochelone : Drop rate of Adamantoise Egg decreased

I really don't get why they had to take the drops from the NQ versions. Rates were already pretty low as they were. now you have to kill both, and they are taking away the 100% drop on the 2nd fight. Granted, we don't know what that reduced rate will be now, it could be high like 1/2 or 2/3 or something--if you don't get it on the first try, have to go back and start over and do all 3 fights again. If you still had a small chance of getting them from the NQ version it wouldn't be so bad--you would STILL have to do two fights to have a shot at getting it from the NQ (KSNM99 for pop item, then kill the NQ). Taking them away from the NQ ones I think is really unnecessary.

[Octaviane]

I am a tad confused. Will BB items still be a possible drop in KS99's after the update? Or am I reading thet SE has now made it even more frustrating to get those BB items with a REDUCED drop rate from HQ Land Kings and NO drop at all from NQ after you do the KS99's for a 100% drop pop item? This is not what was asked for or suggested at all. This forum in general asked for reduced spawn times of Land Kings - success, we asked for drop rates from NQ Land Kings or the KS99's to be improved, not removed -fail. Getting pop items to force spawn Kings was suggested, but not with the conditions SE have come up with. I also know that we have to accept some kind of trade off for the reduced timers, but, this is too severe. I have no issue with obtaining KS, they drop like candy levels 36+ in non-abyssea areas, but to earn them and have the option to do KS99's with a chance of getting the BB item without having to do the Land Kings is, I am hoping still there. Well, it will be at least until the update anyway. OMG SE......................I shake my head at you. (runs off to do her KS99's and finish BB before the update).

[Greatguardian]

Yes, they will still be a possible drop from KS99. Nowhere does it mention changing that drop at all.

[Toren]

From the way it looks KSNM's drop rates will remain unchanged, NQ's won't be able to drop them anymore and the items to pop the HQ's are not 100% either, as well as the HQ's not being a 100% on the black belt items as well.

which is where I see the problem coming in especially if you farm 99 seals not to get a HQ pop item from the NQ.

[MarkovChain]

Seeing as Kindred seals cannot drop more than once per 5 minutes unless you form an alliance in which case it is 3 drops per 5 minutes maximum, and considering it is subject to treasure hunter, I say 99 kindred seals require a minimum of 3 hours with super luck, and realistically (TH limitations) probably double of this time. 6 hours for 1 behemoth BCNM = 1 behemoth = random chance at King Behemoth. You are probably looking 400 seals for 1 king behemoth or 24 hours of farming. WTF were they thinking.

edit : just realised they wanted it to be as much cock blocking as camping it : 24 H respawn NM, and 1/4 chance of HQ version of the NM (or something like this) means the average joe would spend on average 4 evenings of 6 hours until he sees an HQ >_>. That's propably how they thought it lol.

[Octaviane]

Greatguardian: Thanks I didn't see it mentioned either that drops from KS99's would be removed. You just never know with SE though..................

[wish12oz]

I just hope they increase the drop rate for D ring, thats the only thing I never got =[