[Dev 1009] Force Pop HNM's FTW

[Karbuncle]

No it isn't people do not farm HNMs much, people do not have a reason to monopolize HNMs in the respect of buying a bot and paying for said bot from claiming HNMs. people have bigger interest for abyssea. Maybe if this was before abyssea yeah good chance I am wrong, but with times now? no i am not.

the amount people shout should not be an argument to support this change.

So what you're saying here is that. You think the System where the entire population of people after a BB item had at best 1 chance per day, Is better than the Entire population as individuals being able to pop the NM when they get the seals, any time of the day, and multiple times depending on Seals/friends available?

I'm sorry that doesn't make any sense. At BEST the old system allowed 1 Group of people to have a shot at the NM once per day. this new systems gives everyone a shot at the NM (seals allowing) meaning multiple people will kill the NM per day.

its an improvement.

[Fiarlia]

QQ bbbbaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwww

I swear to god you whine and complain almost as much as Krystal.

[SNK]

No it is not.

Old way > new way for getting BB items chance.

If the old way is better then how is it you spent 5 years building a Yochi but couldn't be bothered to spend three damn hours a day camping NQ mobs for Black Belt? You finally decided to go after an egg after the system is now being changed. You obviously didn't think it was worth the effort to camp NQ with the drop rate being crap as it is so I'm surprised that all of a sudden it's important to you to go after it now that the spawn conditions are being made better.

[Sparthos]

Yet only one group could benefit from the HQ per week. The NQ droprate was a freakin joke and KS99 remains the same.

The new system allows MORE people to finish through increased opportunity.

You lose the negligible NQ rate, you get to pop this stuff on your own time and get a second chance on the KS99, arguably the most casual way to get a BB.

Also with people rushing popkings for other loot, the chances of getting a BB also increase with people spawning who have no interest in BB items. This previously would have been people who just sat on kindred seals as KS99 only benefits MNKs atm.

Many people will finish their BB now at the KS99 stage when groups pop for HQ king trigs and eventually cap out on BB items or simply don't care. This can translate to handing out BB items or charging for them, both superior to the previous once/day system.

[Flunklesnarkin]

It doesn't make sense to me..

everybody is saying the ??? are going to be overcrowded but at the same time complaining about how difficult it is to obtain kindred seals.

I'd imagine after a month nearly everybody that cares will have burnt off all their excess kindred seals.


Lets say you had 2K kindred seals... and it takes about 30 mins to get a 99 orb >> run to the zone >> and beat the ksnm

that would be about 10 hours... say maybe 10 days to do all your ksnm if you did it an hour a day

It would take considerable less time to actually kill w/e hnm you go to kill.. but lets say another 10 hours to kill the 20+ triggers you get

so all in all.. maybe 1 hour for 20 days...

Yah.. the zone won't remain crowded for long... if you hate camping a ??? just wait a month

[Twille]

The real problem will be after people blow all their KS and still didn't get the HQ pop item....

[Flunklesnarkin]

The real problem will be after people blow all their KS and still didn't get the HQ pop item....

I agree lets complain about the right things...

We need alternate methods of acquiring these hnm triggers

Maybe the dev's could add a npc that gives you a free NQ trigger of your choosing once a week

[Twille]

I think the general idea is great! But the rewards in FFXI are always so...random.
Go to the work of gathering 99KS, get a group to kill it, get the pop item for NQ HNM, gather another group, kill it to MAYBE get a pop item for the HQ.
That's too much effort for a POSSIBLE HQ pop.

[Twille]

The only benefit to me is that i might have a change at a Dring now....maybe. haha.

[Twille]

With the way SE operates, do you realistically expect more than one NQ drop per KSNM?