[Dev 1009] Force Pop HNM's FTW

[Henihhi]

Lol- You guys got exactly what you asked for. Why are people crying now? You blew up these forums for reasons to exp outside abyssea, to change land HNM, to make black belt HNMs easier to claim. SE just gave you exactly what you wanted all rolled into one nice little bundle. So take your toons outside abyssea <like you made multiple threads for> farm your kses, and have fun spamming for hnm pops. <with shittier drop rates for BB lol> God i love SE!

[Chronofantasy]

Glad i never did KS99 for a long time. I still have a KS99 orb sitting in storage and 600+ KS so maybe I can try to get the BB items and possibly sell my orb pops or the pop items to those unfortunate souls who used up all their KSs.

[Runespider]

did you read the BCNM names? those are 99 KS seals BCs not those.

I'm saying they will make all new BCNM's that you enter with an orb given from collecting kindred crests which will them give you a pop item for the new HNM they showed. I know what this is for but don't you think they will use this same system on the new HNM when everyone was worried about botting and given they put a lot of effort into designing a new system?

[Karbuncle]

It is SE, past track record + these notes = shit

I am up for changing this crap but this is very bad ....

Again, i admit it could have been handled so so so so so much better. But I'll remain cautiously optimistic, until i see what the drop rate on BB items are like from the kings.

If its reduced Excessively, I'll probably join the "Fk everyone" group, then move on with my life as most of these NMs are worthless outside of BB Items.

[Karbuncle]

I'm saying they will make all new BCNM's that you enter with an orb given from collecting kindred crests which will them give you a pop item for the new HNM they showed. I know what this is for but don't you think they will use this same system on the new HNM when everyone was worried about botting and given they put a lot of effort into designing a new system?

They said the Pop item You'd get would be traded to an ??? in the zones they spawn.

I.E Get Fafnir's pop from KSNM99, go pop Fafnir in Dragon's Aery.

They aren't creating entirely new Systems for them. If that's what you're getting at :|

[Greatguardian]

It is SE, past track record + these notes = shit

I am up for changing this crap but this is very bad ....

Recent Track Record + These Notes = Final Fantasy XI Development Team actually listened to the Official Forums. Players will now have to choose between leeching in Abyssea, and EXP'ing normally to amass Kindred Seals for Kings. Don't tell me people are no longer in favor of buffing overworld EXP when it has side effects which make a portion of the game more tedious?

[Starcade]

R/Ex is not synonymous with unsellable. But you're probably going to label people who sell r/ex drops cheaters or something, right?

If the stuff is designed not to be saleable, yes -- as it controverts the intended use of the item.

[Rambus]

This is actually what concerns me about this change.. The rest I think I'm okay with. This though is kinda irritating, as something like 99 seals could take awhile to farm up.. which by itself wouldn't hurt as much except it's also couple with the lowered drop rate of the BB items. I sort of wish it were one or the other, both do seem kind of like a punch in the gut.

But.. the lowered droprate might not be as significant as we think.. And if that's the case, eh.

the egg in the KSNM is fucking shit, then it would be lower????????

the beard is who cares seems like it drops every other one, the egg is a fucking pita though.

I am not sure about tongue.

This is a bad system because of the 99 KS, if it was less time to compensate the lower drops i can see giving it a chance but this is a big NO! atm with how it is stated.

[Kensagaku]

i dont like it ><

I like the idea of a forced spawn but the removal of the BB items off of the KSNM and NQ fights means u basically have to kill 3 times the NMs b4 u get a chance at one of the only things that made the fight worth doing (theres a few other drops worth trying for but not many).


Leave the BB drops alone on the KSNM and NQ PLEASE. If u must lower the HQ boss's drop rate on it fine. But please dont completely butcher it either (30% not 5%)

I see nowhere on the development thread that they said they're removing BB items from the KSNM.

This aside, I don't see why people are so upset. You might actually have to put in a little work to get something. That's like... terrible, right? Plus this is probably an overall better chance in the long run. And I gotta agree with GG, this will definitely open up non-Abyssea XPing again!

[Gotterdammerung]

And for those who think they have escaped the bots finally. Im pretty sure a bot can be made to trade to the ??? (if one doesnt exist alredy)