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    Player Cett's Avatar
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    NA wiki reports the slow % on sea daughter to be 13.3% which really isn't that bad!! XD But the staff gives 10 tp per hit w/o any store tp. If these conditions remain the same, then letting the TP regain on sea daughter provide you with TP will beat out the TP you could gain while melee'ing without buffs. Lets say Sea daughter in 65 seconds gives you 108 and 1/3 tp, while meleeing will give you 100 tp.

    You can also melee despite this slow effect, haste yourself and what not, and you basically double your rate of tp.

    We could play with the numbers and crunch multiple gear sets and situations. Though all I want to say is that the slow on sea daughter shouldn't be a turn off for the extra benefits it provides
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    Woodworking - 100 + Other stuff
    Bravura 95
    Ukonvasara 90
    Hvergelmir 85

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    I'm a DD, I've been mentally trained to think haste is the most important stat. (cause it is)

    So its something that would require getting used too ⌐ ⌐. Though Its still uncertain. I think i attack every ~4 Seconds on SMN. Less if i keep haste up, so thats 20tp/8sec, Eh. I wouldn't be able to crunch this.

    To find something worth giving up haste for, I'd need math. But thats just me, Not saying it doesn't work lol.
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    Player Cett's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    I'm a DD, I've been mentally trained to think haste is the most important stat. (cause it is)

    So its something that would require getting used too ⌐ ⌐. Though Its still uncertain. I think i attack every ~4 Seconds on SMN. Less if i keep haste up, so thats 20tp/8sec, Eh. I wouldn't be able to crunch this.

    To find something worth giving up haste for, I'd need math. But thats just me, Not saying it doesn't work lol.
    I agree completely, I'd love to see the numbers but not even I'm that dedicated enough to figure this out right now. Though for a non DD gear'd summoner, I believe my methods provide a stronger more optimal setting for a summoner. Can pump out 1100~1400 Garland of Bliss' ws's if you are sitting on a bit of MP still and your pets still gain enough tp to always be Max tp!

    I'm about to go test out Atma of the Apocalypse with Spirits to see if they instant cast much !! :P
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    Bravura 95
    Ukonvasara 90
    Hvergelmir 85

  4. #44
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    Great use of sea daughter here i mean i usally have that on anyway to stagger red !! so overall SMN/WHM with that kinda of a setup it great.

    I will mention this tho /RDM i need no mp recovery siphion and convert is all i need there.

    Even if i'm /WHM or /NIN (soloing) Temp items will get me by if i need extra.
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    Subs : 99 SMN COR SCH MELEEWHM
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    Relics : 95 Ragnarok and 95 Apoc
    Ironic that when i was young i never had enough video games but now i have too many and not enough time to play them .

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    Well yeah, if you melee unbuffed with 13.3% slow, you might as well weild a Trick Staff. If you are meleeing with /SAM, 48% haste, 7% DA, and near perpetual ODD, you wouldn't be caught dead saying Sea Daughter is any good.
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