Any new HNM coming?

[Cream_Soda]

Yea there is something wrong with it, whats the point in everyone having the exact same things? MMO like that are dull, im asking for diversity here, not everyone to be uniformed.

Then wear diff things than other people?

[Linh]

Yea there is something wrong with it, whats the point in everyone having the exact same things? MMO like that are dull, im asking for diversity here, not everyone to be uniformed.

Look at it this way too:

It's also the developers' fault for not implementing a system where you can change how you wear your gear. Like for example rolling up your right sleeves, or being able to hang a small nail from Bahamut's claw off your belt as a trophy. Just because everyone has the same gear, doesn't mean they all wear it the same.

Think outside the box.

[Natenn]

Maby im not explaining it right, lets try this: Say MMOs are like the olympics. People from different areas of the world are all here competing, NOW, what if the prizes for first, second, third, and ppl who didn't even place, were all the Gold cup? There would be no incentive to strive for first since even if you ran say 1 mile in a min the guy who took 5m+ gets the exact same reward. Then no one cares afterward about who came in what place. Primevil brew slaughtered w/e challenge developers had in mind, who cares if someone can kill something hard w/o brew? The point is if ppl can take the easy way they will.Every MMO is an epeen contest XI is no exception. If you play an MMO and want everything and everyone to be equal then thats your way, dont try and make the game that one way just so you can be like that 2nd or 3rd ect winner and destroy all meaning of the first place spot.

Bring back the old HNM system please in some way, its 2011, im sure theres a practicle way around bots by now.

[Cream_Soda]

That example couldn't be any more off base.

Gold medals aren't comparable to gear. Why? Because a gold medal does nothing but sit there. My gold medal would be identical to yours.

Even if you have the same gear as someone else, its not identical because how you use that gear makes a huge diff in what you get out of it.

If you depend on gear to be better than or stand out as compared to someone else, then you're doing it wrong. Stand out based on being a better player.

Basically what you're saying is that you can only be better than another player if you have better gear than them.

[Karbuncle]

That example couldn't be any more off base.

Gold medals aren't comparable to gear. Why? Because a gold medal does nothing but sit there. My gold medal would be identical to yours.

Even if you have the same gear as someone else, its not identical because how you use that gear makes a huge diff in what you get out of it.

If you depend on gear to be better than or stand out as compared to someone else, then you're doing it wrong. Stand out based on being a better player.

Basically what you're saying is that you can only be better than another player if you have better gear than them.

You could tie those gold medals around your hands and use it to climb a giant pole to get an arrow. THEREFOR YOUR ARGUMENT IS inVALID>

[Natenn]

No, basically what im saying is, gear should reflect skill lvl. In that regard claiming should be hard, and the fights even harder then that. But you come off as all "No competition for anything plz". If SE not gonna make HNM in the traditional sense then make it getting a pop exceedingly difficult idc. Seeing bad players in good gear is sickening to me. Hoping these voidwatch are all hard with time limits or else they depop or rage after X amount of time.

Instead of flaming on me, what would you suggest to the idea of new "HNM"? How would you set it up? Make it all easy so everyone can kill with out strategy and little to no effort? Thats basically what abyssea is now.

[Karbuncle]

No, basically what im saying is, gear should reflect skill lvl. In that regard claiming should be hard, and the fights even harder then that. But you come off as all "No competition for anything plz". If SE not gonna make HNM in the traditional sense then make it getting a pop exceedingly difficult idc. Seeing bad players in good gear is sickening to me. Hoping these voidwatch are all hard with time limits or else they depop or rage after X amount of time.

Instead of flaming on me, what would you suggest to the idea of new "HNM"? How would you set it up? Make it all easy so everyone can kill with out strategy and little to no effort? Thats basically what abyssea is now.

No it shouldn't. The difficulty should be winning the fight, Not beating the Bots.

a System like what was in place for PW and AV (large Work-filled Build up to Pop NM) Would be perfect. Its difficult but remains an Obtainable goal over time. Not just when the window is open

[Natenn]

Did you read the 2nd half of my post or just rage went off after you seen "claiming"?

[Karbuncle]

Did you read the 2nd half of my post or just rage went off after you seen "claiming"?

I read the second half, Doesn't mean i don't disagree with the first half.

Did you see the second half of my post agreeing with the second half of your post?

Secondly, I'm far form raging. however, Your offensive attitude is understandable i suppose. Consider I'm nearly the only one in this entire thread trying to address your points in any calm fashion, while the rest basically call you a superiority-complex having douche.

But I mean, If you wanna see me rage, I can gladly do it. Considering i feel, out of all my posts toward you, I have never once "Flammed" you. Unless you consider "Disagreeing with your points" Flaming.

[Natenn]

More directed at Cream, not you. I don't see to many ideas out there.