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  1. #121
    Player Elexia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    The potential is there, Some say I'm being to optimistic, I say you're all being to pessimistic.
    The potential is there, but when you complete WoTG and Abyssea's storyline, the game's story is damn well done since we saved the world what, 3 times now? Even started to "heal" Abyssea by rekilling Promathia so it won't need to be an expansion pack. All they have to do, much like Abyssea and the like, is just put new end-game stuff in version updates like every other MMO does.

    So it's not optimism or pessimism, it's more that there really is no need for an expansion pack at this point in time given the current storyline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    The potential is there, but when you complete WoTG and Abyssea's storyline, the game's story is damn well done since we saved the world what, 3 times now? Even started to "heal" Abyssea by rekilling Promathia so it won't need to be an expansion pack. All they have to do, much like Abyssea and the like, is just put new end-game stuff in version updates like every other MMO does.

    So it's not optimism or pessimism, it's more that there really is no need for an expansion pack at this point in time given the current storyline.
    I don't see you're logic, and I'm sorry for that.

    We don't know whats going on in the North, the West, or the Far East (outside of Tenzens accounts). ToAU is completely (to an extent) independent of CoP/Saving-the-world-Abyssea-Storyline, yet it managed to get along fine. For all intents and purposes ToAU Was about difficulties between Family, a power-hungry Brother, Ghost Pirates, and Apocalyptic Deities.

    The Southern Continents Storyline could very well be nothing more than revolving around the idea one Mithran Chieftaness is attempting to take over the other Tribes, Your goal is to stop the invasions. Later you find out the Chieftan is being influenced by an Inter-dimensional creature, and they start appearing to fight with her forces (Look! Voidwatch tie-in). New goal, Defeat said multidimensional mind-influencing creatures. Ta-da, story and HNMs.

    Just because our current storylines are tied up in a nice bow, Doesn't mean there isn't room for more, and so say there isn't, Whats stopping them from making a Far-East or Southern Expansion based around the idea abyssea brought on? "Battle Add-Ons". Limited Story, maximum Endgame/Battle/HNMs/etc?

    I know, what response i can expect, but honestly, i have to try~
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  3. #123
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    So it's not optimism or pessimism, it's more that there really is no need for an expansion pack at this point in time given the current storyline.
    It's not just the fact there is no addons/expansions that bothers me the most, it's that they made FFXI a newly released game again, with very little content and the stuff they are adding over the next year looks really weak given what they just did to the game.

    If you destroy everything in a game you need to put some serious new content in place that can last and the stuff they listed just ain't it. Abyssea was good I enjoyed it but I always said what they do after Abyssea was what counted and most of it from what I can see is honestly not good enough.
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    What got me was the best body piece's for sam came from a HNM + crafted item or a lvl 59 +1 with everything else being side grades if that. I know one player that quit over the Nocturnus Mail being better then his hauby +1.
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    the story is damn well complete . We learned about everything in XI's lore at this point since the only areas we didn't explore would just be areas to explore, nothing new to learn
    Not true actually. About the Far East, we still don't know why it is at war with AU. Then there's the emptiness that surely caused many problems, and there are probably many aspects that could let us know yagudo better. Gha Naboh Matriarchate is no different. Lekho hints many times during WotG that the Mithran queen is a bitch, that she's plotting things, she's evil, etc. Sin Hunters are also sent many times during the game to try to get back the Bow of Light and god knows what the queen wants to do with it(I think slay AU, but that's just speculation for another thread eventually). Not much was said about Ubulka and Razowha. So yeah, there are still things to learn.
    Just wanted to point out at those statements, I already said what I think about all of this at page 11.
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    They pretty much have to have a new expansion even if it is dlc or some sort of addon for 2012 or FFXI will pretty much die off from lack of anything to do.

    Lot of players already bored with Abyssea.
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    All these add on expansions are just rehasing old zones with a twist and we are tricked into paying for a full price expansion but its in three installments so I guess SE thinks we are too dumb to feel we are cheated. Abyssea expansion was good but the other three are a waste of time and money.
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    Holy sh*t man. When Anguis died today in Walk of Echoes, my group got thrown into a cutscene and a mob named Chaos pops up. YES, the same mofo from FF1/Dissidia! Like an idiot I forgot to record the beginning cutscene when he comes in, but at least I got the fight.

    Chaos in Walk of Echoes
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    90 MNK. 90 BLM. 90 COR. 90 WAR.

    All POST-Abyssea LEECHED and proud of it.

    Cept MNK (Got up to 41 in 2009). All that time wasted camping Retaliators....

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    I think of it this way:

    Nobody knew what the cap for # of people in a zone at the same time was until ToAU. There was literally that much anticipation. It doesn't matter that a new zone is eventually a place to grind quests, NMs and exp in. It doesn't matter if new mobs are reskinned old mobs with new tp moves/behavior, or if they're completely new mobs with a completely different dynamic required to fight them.

    What does matter is that there's a new zone. And new mobs. I want to be excited again. I wanna take a ferry/airship/flying chocobo to a new continent. I mainly just want to get away from Abyssea. I think everyone would love to take a break from spending a maximum of 2-3 hours obtaining the best armor imaginable from a Moogle, because the only places to "show off" or make/get any use of the uber gear is Abyssea. And the only content in Abyssea is seals (encompassing cards/coins/weapon upgrade items). Throw in new uber armor from NMs or whatever (not 72 hour respawn 3-5 hour window mobs).

    Speaking of NM respawn etc: ZNM/SCNM were awesome systems I thought. One was completely competition free, you just farmed up Zeni and force popped NMs in succession. SCNM, there was competition for the "trigger" NMs but once you had the complete set, you had a battlefield all to yourself.

    If the new content offers challenging, high level mobs, difficult BCNMS (which I'm not holding my breath for, the current trend is that if you can't enter a BCNM solo as a naked SMN with a permanent Mute status and win, it's too difficult), and a good story, I'll get excited again. If instead I'm told I can get uber gear that's ridiculously more powerful than the already ridiculously overpowered gear I already have, but I need to kill several thousand mobs and then get a group of friends to stay up all night grinding 3 of the most boring NMs imaginable about 100 times each so that a deformed albino midget with a very serious malignant growth on its head can shoot me with star lazerz and pull Lepicdary gear out of its "Mog Satchel" for me.. I'll pass.

    Harpies in Dangruf Wadi =/= content.
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    For lack of better words, the current trend sucks. Abyssea is entirely too easy. Any herpderp player can pretend they are "amazing" thanks to the overpowering atmas, and anyone can just go in and get the best gear possible for their jobs in less than a weeks worth of work. I understand the idea to maintain casual player interest, but where is the self-satisfaction and the feeling of accomplishment? Good for you new guys to finally get something worthwhile. We want something better. Something that takes much more effort to achieve.

    The thing I'm sick of the most, is all the rehashing of current zones. There's always been a reason why we didn't visit these areas, let's just keep it that way. I don't want to go out of my way to experience newly added bs nms that will likely only keep peoples' attention for about a month~ depending how good the drops are. Seriously this game could have be left to die after WotG, but no, they had to go and temp us with new content, which btw, ended in utter disappointment. Just give me one more reason to quit SE.

    Oh wait. You already did! That ridiculous timeline you graphed out for us! On top of that, more server merging! Way to go! I'm about done with this crap. I'm so tired of paying for the same garbage over and over.
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