Dual Wield yes,please

[Kensagaku]

Well with THF it's alright because double daggers are a lot more sensible than using just one. xD

Double axes, you can see using one with a shield, or just an axe. Daggers with a shield just looks silly because of the whole reach bit.

BLU gets it because it's an eclectic job, able to use a wide variety of job traits based on the monster spells set (See: Zanshin, Gilfinder, Counter, etc).

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Well with THF it's alright because double daggers are a lot more sensible than using just one. xD

Double axes, you can see using one with a shield, or just an axe. Daggers with a shield just looks silly because of the whole reach bit.

BLU gets it because it's an eclectic job, able to use a wide variety of job traits based on the monster spells set (See: Zanshin, Gilfinder, Counter, etc).

Thief should never have got it, I understand NIN and DNC afterall they were always depicted with two weapons, and any good DNC subs NIN anyway, but Thief was just dumb.

As for BLU, they get almost all job traits, it's how they work it makes sense they get it, I just hope they never get a higher tier than what you get as /nin.

[Alukat]

Thief should never have got it, I understand NIN and DNC afterall they were always depicted with two weapons, and any good DNC subs NIN anyway, but Thief was just dumb.

As for BLU, they get almost all job traits, it's how they work it makes sense they get it, I just hope they never get a higher tier than what you get as /nin.

so what's the difference between THF,NIN,DNC that makes nin & dnc deserve it and thf doesn't?
is it because u play nin and dnc and u don't play/like thf?

[Daniel_Hatcher]

so what's the difference between THF,NIN,DNC that makes nin & dnc deserve it and thf doesn't?
is it because u play nin and dnc and u don't play/like thf?

It's Ninja's job trait, was from more or less day one, whereas Treasure hunter is Thief's. Dancer deserved it on the basis that they have from day one of the job being introduced been depicted with dual daggers, whereas THF never was.

I play as neither one of the three, but would you like any other job to get Treasure Hunter, I think not. Every job should have their own traits.

[Karbuncle]

It's Ninja's job trait, was from more or less day one, whereas Treasure hunter is Thief's. Dancer deserved it on the basis that they have from day one of the job being introduced been depicted with dual daggers, whereas THF never was.

I play as neither one of the three, but would you like any other job to get Treasure Hunter, I think not. Every job should have their own traits.

DNC has a Playstyle derived around utilizing Small/Large amounts of TP to perform various buffs, Self Cures, and in itself is one of the most, if not THE most, unique job in the game. Also, all the DNC NPC's in campaign Use h2h, including the big-one, Who uses WS up to Asuran Fists. Something DNC doesn't get. and None of them outside of the leader use Dances. by your logic DNCs don't deserve to use Dances, and should get Asuran fists.

I'm real sorry if i come off as rude but your reason for THF not deserving Dual Wield while ignoring that DNC has more utility than THF does already, while saying DNC Deserves Dual wield cause its shown as such in Cutscenes is just Illogical to me.

In my Opinion, if SE has decided to add Dual Wield to the game from Day 1, Who do you think would have gotten it?

MNK? nope
WAR? Unlikely, A+ Great Axe
WHM? nope
BLM? nope
RDM? NEWP.
THF? I think so.

It just happens that Dual wield wasn't concocted or Introduced until RoTZ, where it was slapped on NIN. To be honest we can't just say THF never deserved Dual wield, Frankly the "old" Dev team was terrible to a fault. They left multiple long-term problems unanswered, Used the term "PS2 Limitations" like it was the new "Cake is a lie" and had almost 0 contact or understanding of the playerbase. If we had our Current Dev-team and their Freedom back then like we do today, I bet THF would have gotten Dual wield at some point.

Just like it did now (even though its like level 83?).

Now, Of course we'll never get Dual Wield on THF below 83, They insulted us with Dual Wield 1/2(Probably 3) and they'll likely never change it. But it doesn't change the fact it Should have gotten it from day 1 :|, NINs uniqueness is the Elemental Ninjutsu and Utsusemi(which revolutionized Tanking), it didn't need to hog Dual wield too :|

I apologize if I've offended or insulted you, I'm just a hard-core THF who really am upset THF has never gotten Dual wield natively at low levels, When it just seems like they logically should have. Especially after DNC was given Dual wield. Its insulting to us as a job. instead we're stuck with Level 83Dual wield1, and Dual Wield II some time between 83~90. (and likely Dual wield III by 99). When we should have gotten Dual wield on the Same Levels/Traits and DNC in the very least.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

DNC has a Playstyle derived around utilizing Small/Large amounts of TP to perform various buffs, Self Cures, and in itself is one of the most, if not THE most, unique job in the game. Also, all the DNC NPC's in campaign Use h2h, including the big-one, Who uses WS up to Asuran Fists. Something DNC doesn't get. and None of them outside of the leader use Dances. by your logic DNCs don't deserve to use Dances, and should get Asuran fists.

I'm real sorry if i come off as rude but your reason for THF not deserving Dual Wield while ignoring that DNC has more utility than THF does already, while saying DNC Deserves Dual wield cause its shown as such in Cutscenes is just Illogical to me.

In my Opinion, if SE has decided to add Dual Wield to the game from Day 1, Who do you think would have gotten it?

MNK? nope
WAR? Unlikely, A+ Great Axe
WHM? nope
BLM? nope
RDM? NEWP.
THF? I think so.

It just happens that Dual wield wasn't concocted or Introduced until RoTZ, where it was slapped on NIN. To be honest we can't just say THF never deserved Dual wield, Frankly the "old" Dev team was terrible to a fault. They left multiple long-term problems unanswered, Used the term "PS2 Limitations" like it was the new "Cake is a lie" and had almost 0 contact or understanding of the playerbase. If we had our Current Dev-team and their Freedom back then like we do today, I bet THF would have gotten Dual wield at some point.

Just like it did now (even though its like level 83?).

Now, Of course we'll never get Dual Wield on THF below 83, They insulted us with Dual Wield 1/2(Probably 3) and they'll likely never change it. But it doesn't change the fact it Should have gotten it from day 1 :|, NINs uniqueness is the Elemental Ninjutsu and Utsusemi(which revolutionized Tanking), it didn't need to hog Dual wield too :|

I apologize if I've offended or insulted you, I'm just a hard-core THF who really am upset THF has never gotten Dual wield natively at low levels, When it just seems like they logically should have. Especially after DNC was given Dual wield. Its insulting to us as a job. instead we're stuck with Level 83Dual wield1, and Dual Wield II some time between 83~90. (and likely Dual wield III by 99). When we should have gotten Dual wield on the Same Levels/Traits and DNC in the very least.

Hardly offended me, we differ on opinions of who should get dual wield. Weaponskills on NM's, NPC's and so on mean very little as doing the Maat fight with RDM puts you against Asurian Fists a move RDM themselves don't even get a chance of getting.

My point on DNC and being depicted as dual wielding and thus at least deserving some levels of the trait, is that even on the announcement of the job coming to the game they depicted them Dual Wielding, something whether "you'd think THF would get it or not" they never once had.

THF Was given dual wield in the end along with the new TH as a way to simply try to remove the "Hit the mob once then disengage" method many linkshells and so forth had of thief and their DD capabilities, the same restrictions would have applied to DNC if they didn't require TP to actually be useful.

[Karbuncle]

Hardly offended me, we differ on opinions of who should get dual wield. Weaponskills on NM's, NPC's and so on mean very little as doing the Maat fight with RDM puts you against Asurian Fists a move RDM themselves don't even get a chance of getting.

My point on DNC and being depicted as dual wielding and thus at least deserving some levels of the trait, is that even on the announcement of the job coming to the game they depicted them Dual Wielding, something whether "you'd think THF would get it or not" they never once had.

THF Was given dual wield in the end along with the new TH as a way to simply try to remove the "Hit the mob once then disengage" method many linkshells and so forth had of thief and their DD capabilities, the same restrictions would have applied to DNC if they didn't require TP to actually be useful.

I tried looking up the THF AF Quest, and other things to see if any of them were dual wielding. Even Nanaa_Mihgo in the BCNM.

Couldn't find SS/Video of THF AF, but Nanaa is Single Wielding. Damnit~ but still, Even if some DNCs are shown Dual Wielding, in Campaign they all use H2H. So its not entirely sound.

Before DNC I'd be on your side. "/NIN is fine for Dual wield". But the second DNC got Dual Wield IV, My opinion Change. If they were handing out Dual Wield THF shoulda got it too :|

I mean, They do now, Dual Wield II, Probably DWIII, but still

[Alukat]

Well with THF it's alright because double daggers are a lot more sensible than using just one. xD

Double axes, you can see using one with a shield, or just an axe. Daggers with a shield just looks silly because of the whole reach bit.

BLU gets it because it's an eclectic job, able to use a wide variety of job traits based on the monster spells set (See: Zanshin, Gilfinder, Counter, etc).

sword + shield looks good too....... but blu still got dual wield.

however, i could swear someone posted here to get KO with DW. it doesn't work.

Edit: now explain pls what dual wield has to do with the job traits which blu get because of spells?

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

sword + shield looks good too....... but blu still got dual wield.

I've said it before elsewhere and I'll say it here: BLU should have gotten Dual Wield before DNC. BLU is the only job I can think of that, on its own, cannot do anything with its left hand natively. THF can equip bucklers with its native shield skill, and DNC has native hand-to-hand, but BLU has no access to either shields or two-handers.