Dual Wield yes,please

[Alukat]

hmm WHM natural dual for DDing, SE's idea for whm was a heal job and not a DD job though

Edit: what bst would use a shield, if he can use 2 axes? snarl wtf anyway >.>
Edit2: if i am rdm/nin and i melee then i would use sword with pdt- and genbu's shield , <3 the shield blocks ^^

[Kensagaku]

Yet they still made plenty of DD gear for WHM, i.e. Mauls in general, Sea Robber's/Seawolf, Reverand Mail... they even have their own individual relic and empyreal clubs made just for DDing.

Don't forget there's beneficial shields not only for the blocking but for the boosts on it (i.e. regen on Bloom Buckler, STR+ on Tatami as well as the killer effects boost, etc). Not advocating a shield build here, merely providing an argument. Personally I go /DNC or /NIN almost every time I'm on BST, so I'm usually dual wielding anyway.

[Alukat]

and i would like to sub cor or brd for an additional buff in pt situations w/o loosing the dual wield benefits.

[Alukat]

idm if other jobs get the TH1 trait

[Xilk]

Wow, please no. BST does not need native dual wield. the idea sounds pretty ridiculous to me. we really don't need it. It really doesn't make sense at all. If you want more dual wield so badly, go play nin.

I would rather see bst get some native skill w/ archery.

[Visari]

I would have to agree that bst does not need a native dual wield. /nin and /dnc afford folks plenty of opportunity to dual wield. I personally sub whm in most cases unless i need to hit that -100% pdt. I have to agree with Xilk on the archery. I always found it strange that it is not native to bst and have wondered about that since I began playing.

[Alukat]

Wow, please no. BST does not need native dual wield. the idea sounds pretty ridiculous to me. we really don't need it. It really doesn't make sense at all. If you want more dual wield so badly, go play nin.

I would rather see bst get some native skill w/ archery.

well give BST a DW I and if u need/want DW III do it like now with sub NIN or DNC, i would really like the additional options it would add to advanced gameplay.

Edit:
pt example:
BST/COR pet att+ buffs axes: add effect: eva down*2 (for proc rate)
BST/COR pet acc+ buffs axes: add effect: def down*2 (for proc rate)
PUP/DNC (healing duty and pet acc+ increase, if it works on cor sub)
BST/COR att+ buff or whatever is needed axes: pet att+*2 (as example)
BST/WHM hasting or BST/BRD for march or whatever, it will benefit the complete pt
BST/NIN tanking pdt- axe*2

pt example 2:
SAM
THF
WAR
DRK
RDM
BST/COR (att+ as example) or BST/BRD (march as example)

at bst/brd with DW I u would lose 15% delay reduction, but overall the pt would get 4% haste to 5 ppl.
so the BST/BRD would have 10% from DW and 4% from haste. and the thf,sam,drk,war would recieve an additional 4% haste, so the overall dmg output of this pt should be higher as BST/NIN with DW III.
DW I is neccessary to make this battle tactics work.and u won't lose the increase 2nd axe stats would offer.

that's why at least DW I for bST yes,please. ^^

[Alukat]

why do u want archery? O.o
/nin or /dnc , remember not everyone is playing solo all time >.>

[Gotterdammerung]

Archery would fit so well with beast. Both in playstyle and fluff. Most of the time against big bosses i am just sitting back watching my pet fight and waiting for something to happen. Would be awesome to plink away with arrows insted of being a wallflower.

[Kensagaku]

And as a result you're trying to merge jobs. No. If we need those buffs, we can add a COR to get them at full strength along with another roll rather than getting a gimped roll like /COR provides. Same deal with /BRD; a lesser tier won't help when instead we could get a full BRD, get double Marches and boom, more overall DoT. The argument there is kinda invalid.

Also you're looking at some really, really specialized builds with that first part that I doubt you'd end up seeing in a party situation. Possible? Oh sure, it is. It'd take some dedication, but it's possible. Probable? Not at all. If anything you're going to get people who look at you, shake their head, and wonder where the traditional party is.

Not really a good justification for dual-wield for BST.